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    Quote Originally Posted by Human2
    It's not Hispanic Americans who have their loyalties skewed. It's the
    CORPORATION'S who are pushing this "BILL".

    To my fellow Hispanics out there, who do you think is going to come out winners in all of this?
    Do you HONESTLY THINK that it's going to be us "Latino's"?

    Why do you think that they are saying to us; You don't have to learn English, You don't have to do anything "We will take care of you".

    The Corporation's ARE going to take care of us "STRAIGHT DOWN THE SEWER".


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    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanElizabeth
    Hispanic_Guy, this is good to hear as so many Hispanic Americans have their loyalties skewed. As Americans we CANNOT afford to have loyalites only to ones own racial group, we have to be loyal as a whole, as Americans, nothing else.

    Hispanic guy you have it exactly right. The Hispanics that fall for this don't realize that the Corporations are the new plantation owners. They will work for slave wages and persuaded to join unions and to agree with union bosses or they are out of a job. They can't win on this. This is a lose-lose situation for them. The little they get in the comparison of what they lose will be staggering. They will own their souls to the Democrats, the Corporations, and the Union bosses.
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    REMEMBER THIS, Daedalus??


    Daedalus:

    I for one will enjoy watching the imminent demise of the conservative-led immigration restrictionist movement. Checking my watch, you people have three days to pull off a miracle. Then it is our serve.

    Then I wrote:

    If you want to live in a socialist state or a world of chaos, that's your perogative. It's not a choice I will make. And I know I'm not alone.

    And that's what scares the hell out of you.

    Keep checking your watch, Daedalus. Keep posting, too, especially after this Bill fails. We'll compare notes then.



    Sorry. You lose. You don't get the serve......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedalus
    Quote Originally Posted by VaMinuteMan
    Daedelus It's thinking like yours that our opponents have used to claim we are racist and only wish to have everything not European erased from the United States.
    It's actually your sort of thinking that will ultimately destroy this country - America has no essential identity - being an American is nothing more than a legal category (one that is for sale). That explains why 1.) immigrants reject assimilation in favor of their own richer cultures and 2.) well over half the population can't be bothered to get all that concerned about America's immigration problem. Such a vacuous, thin, meaningless sense of identity isn't worth preserving or adopting. It isn't worth putting up with reflexive accusations of "racism, bigotry, hate, etc." either. See above.

    Conservatives like you harp on endlessly about "illegal aliens" not having the proper paperwork. That simply begs the question: why not have them pay a fine, and then give them the proper legal papers? The obsessive conservative concern with legalism reduces the immigration issue to a right-wing circle jerk. It makes "comprehensive immigration reform" sound reasonable to a large cross-section of the progressive, non-conservative population. "Racism" has nothing to do with matter. I'm not interested in which races are "superior" or "inferior." That's not the issue. I'm more than willing to grant that Mexico has the "superior" immigration policy; America the "inferior" one. It is hard to believe whites are "superior" when they allow other populations to walk all over them. If Mexicans want to be the superior "Bronze Race," that's fine by me. I'm not chastising Hispanic immigrants at all. Unlike conservatives, I can understand and appreciate many of their concerns.

    Your line of thinking scares me and reminds me of the same line of thought used by certain individuals during the mid 1930s. A line of thought that was thoroughly rejected by America during World War II. In fact, it's almost a carbon copy - I know my history sir.
    That's true. In the aftermath of WW2, America was redefined as a "proposition nation." Our immigration problem dates from those years. Complain all you want about the evil racists (i.e., Eisenhower and "Operation R******R," the Founders being slaveowners), but whatever their faults, America didn't have an immigration problem under their watch.

    [quote:2pgyi1wg]I for one am glad you are in the minority.
    I for one will enjoy watching the imminent demise of the conservative-led immigration restrictionist movement. Checking my watch, you people have three days to pull off a miracle. Then it is our serve.[/quote:2pgyi1wg]

    Looks like you lost your serve today Daelelus!!!

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