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    Feds won't enforce rule on firing illegal immigrants

    Couldn't find this article here...so if it was already posted I apologize!'

    No-match' letters to employers won't be mailed as appeals court decides case

    By MARY LOU PICKEL
    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

    Published on: 12/25/07

    Employers will get a pass this year on rules that would have required firing illegal immigrants.

    The Social Security Administration says it will not mail out "no-match" letters this year to more than 138,000 employers nationwide.

    THE STORY SO FAR
    • Previously: The Social Security Administration had been notifying employers that a worker's name and Social Security number didn't match.
    • The latest: Because of a lawsuit over stricter rules, the program has been put on hold.
    • What's next: The government will revise its procedures.

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    The program was stymied because of a lawsuit by a coalition of labor, business and civil liberties groups.

    No-match letters inform employers that a worker's name and Social Security number don't match. There can be a variety of reasons, but sometimes that's because the worker is an illegal immigrant. The letters would have flagged 8.6 million workers nationwide.

    In Georgia, 4,669 employers will get a pass on the letters this year.

    "There are some employers who are probably relieved because if a large portion of their workers are listed on the mismatch letter, they could lose some or most of their employees, with no one to take their place," said Eileen Scofield, an Atlanta immigration and labor lawyer.

    A spokesman for the restaurant industry said what the government needs to do is adopt comprehensive immigration reform, rather than more rules.

    Twenty-two percent of the nation's 7.6 million food prep and service employees are foreign born.

    "We don't think you can enforce your way out of our broken immigration system," said Mike Shutley, director of legislative affairs for the National Restaurant Association.

    In August, the Department of Homeland Security issued a new rule giving employers 90 days to terminate workers whose paperwork could not be reconciled once they got a no-match letter.

    That rule is on hold, however, after a federal district judge in California issued an injunction in October. The case is on appeal to the Ninth District Court of Appeals.

    Labor groups, including the AFL-CIO, as well as the American Civil Liberties Union argued in the lawsuit that legal workers and others might be fired unfairly. They also said the government did not consider the impact on small businesses. Some causes for Social Security mismatches include typos, name changes from marriage or divorce and multiple last names.

    In some cases, however, the mismatch happens because a worker is not legally authorized to work in the United States. That's what the Department of Homeland Security is trying to address.

    "The no-match letters are an important tool not only for the department to better enforce our immigration laws, but also for employers to make sure that they are complying with the law and appropriate hiring practices," said Veronica Valdes, spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security.

    "We are in no way abandoning the no-match rule," Valdes said.

    The department will revise the rule and try again, she said.

    In the past, employers were not required to act on no-match letters, although some would follow through and terminate workers who could not clear up their paperwork.

    That's the case with Miguel Candelaria, owner of MA&O Construction. Candelaria helped found the Hispanic Contractors Association of Georgia.

    Candelaria got no-match letters for the 2005 tax year affecting eight of about 500 employees. A few employees had legitimate mistakes, such as typos in their names or numbers, that needed to be fixed, he said.

    A few had used their children's Social Security numbers, and some had expired work visas. He fired them.

    "The ones who couldn't come up with the stuff, they're gone," Candelaria said.
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    Sounds like Georgia still wants the tax revenue for these illegal SSN numbers. The SSN office has over 600 million dollars that they have recieved by illegals employers because they are using someone else's ID's. They want this money. The SSN Administration is stating that they are holding the money. I doubt that. I am sure Bush is using it to fund the war.
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    I have to laugh at the ones using their children's ssn. How many hard working infants do you suppose are out there?

    Imagine the Social Security they will get when they retire after working for 120-140 years hmm?
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    The SSN Administration knows who is guilty of ID Fraud. Some of these SSN's are deceased, some are children and some are duplicate SSN's working in different states.

    Again there is someone profiting from this and it is not the middle class citizen.
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    "We don't think you can enforce your way out of our broken immigration system," said Mike Shutley, director of legislative affairs for the National Restaurant Association.

    Well many, many people do!
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    Treason!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratbstard
    "We don't think you can enforce your way out of our broken immigration system," said Mike Shutley, director of legislative affairs for the National Restaurant Association.

    Well many, many people do!
    Besides, it's not broken, its just not enforced. Enforcement works and they don't like that.
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    A spokesman for the restaurant industry said what the government needs to do is adopt comprehensive immigration reform, rather than more rules.

    I am getting really sick and tired of excuses from OB freaks.

    1st, they say the system is "BROKEN". Then they say it is the "Federal Government's" job to do something about it. Then when the Federal Govt steps in, it is not GOOD ENOUGH, BECAUSE IT ISN'T "COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM". In other words, OB'ers want AMNESTY and will not accept ENFORCEMENT OF OUR CURRENT IMMIGRATION LAWS.

    We don't need any more "rules", we just need to ENFORCE THE LAWS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS!
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    Employers with illegal that aren't paying taxes, will have back taxes to pay.
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    The OBLs want it their way all the way

    No matter what , they will cry, whine and make excuses

    Just for the record I know a small casino owner here in Vegas with
    a restaurant with the best food in town , He does not
    employ any illegals and has no problem finding help

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