Thread: Geithner told he should go

"I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our Constitution. I would be willing to depend on that alone for the reduction of the administration of our government to the genuine principles of its Constitution; I mean an additional article, taking from the federal government the power of borrowing." John Adams

"Most Americans have no real understanding of the operation of the international money lenders...the accounts of the Federal Reserve System have never been audited. It operates outside the control of Congress and ....manipulates the credit of the United States. Sen. Barry Goldwater

Originally Posted by roundabout

4thHorseman wrote,

Quote:roundabout wrote,
I remember the big push and all of the talk about just this subject back in the 90's when Slick Willie was in office. Rush in his infinite wisdom said that limiting lobbyist would be unconstitutional.


I remember also, but Rush was talking about the McCain / Feingold bill I believe, and that did not eliminate lobby money. It tried to limit who,how when, where and how much. And it did not work. When I say eliminate it, I mean just that. Anyone can still lobby. You or your agent can call, write or see anyone in the government to press your point of view or issue. You just cannot donate money to any campaigns. What I think we have to have (because I cannot think of any other solution) is public funding of all national elections (e.g., presidential, senate, and HOR). Until the money is eliminated from the equation the corruption will continue, and I believe it is the single issue that will eventually kill this nation if not resolved. And bribery is not a constitutional right, even if it is legal.

Thank You for refreshing my memory and for such a brilliant yet simplistic manner in which to return to sanity in politics,.......if that is possible.

The best part yet,

[quote:6j2lolcc]And bribery is not a constitutional right, even if it is legal.

Right to the point! Replace the word lobbying, with bribery, then prepare for the kick in the pants. [/quote:6j2lolcc]

It is my belief Lobbyist's only access to OUR Congress should be at Town Hall Meetings just like all us Poor Relations (average citizens).

If they have something to say to OUR Reps then do it in front of other Citizens,with cameras rolling,just like we must do.

USPatriot wrote,
[/quote]It is my belief Lobbyist's only access to OUR Congress should be at Town Hall Meetings just like all us Poor Relations (average citizens).

If they have something to say to OUR Reps then do it in front of other Citizens,with cameras rolling,just like we must do.

Now that would make for some interesting town hall meetings.

"In regard to economic policy, socialism and communism are identical." Ludwig von Mises

Originally Posted by USPatriot

It is my belief Lobbyist's only access to OUR Congress should be at Town Hall Meetings just like all us Poor Relations (average citizens).

If they have something to say to OUR Reps then do it in front of other Citizens,with cameras rolling,just like we must do.

I totally agree!

All I can say is where is the outrage!

Just read and article written in 2007 about two mexican "Immigrants" who bought a house in California for $720,000 no money down. Their combined income was $2400.00 per month. The interest only loan had a payment of about $4800 per month, and their combined monthly income is $2,400!

Then Bush, Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and Bernake force the US tax payer to bail-out the people that lent that money! Plus all the moritoriums and gov. programs to keep deadbeats like the ones listed above in "their" homes!

Havn't you noticed that no heads in Congress, the Fed. Res. or Wall St. have rolled! and the executives at BOA, Citi group, J.P Morgan and Goldman Sacks are getting $30 billion in bonuses this Christmas, and the US taxpayers are picking up the tab on the losses!

Where is the outrage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Greg,

For those of us who have been studying the economy, and banking system, this is just another thing that is expected. For myself, I have very few who will listen, and I usually get called a nutjob, or am told that people don't want to hear it.

But this kind of b.s. has been going on since 1913, as these banks are in it for themselves. The Fed makes it possible as it is an illegal cartel structure, and when it comes to a decision of the good of the country or the good of the cartel, they will always opt to support the cartel. For this is who they are. They are the cartel. But biggest issue is the government being in reciprocity with the banks through the creation of the Fed.

I only hope the American people will awaken and demand the dismantling of this giant trust that has bled the nation and the people white from all their wealth.

Hylander,

Although I never guessed these bail-outs would have happened in a million years, I know others did expect the bail- outs.

I read and post on another blog called the housing bubble blog. The housing bubble was in full force. I live in Southern California, part of the epicenter, it was 2006 and we were all watching the bubble reach it's peak and discussing what the aftermath would be like. There were more than a few posters who said all the loosers who bought these over priced homes and their lenders would all be asking for government bail-outs. There point was that the entitlement attitude of so many are wreckless then put there hand out. That Americans screw-up in mass and then demand a bail-out.

I laughed and thought " that would never happen". boy was I naive.

Hylander, please tell me do the bail-outs ever end ?

will failure be forever proped up at our cost ?

Do we have a say in any of this ?

Bye-the way where is the bail out for the people who can't send there children to the public schools in there area because the illegal aliens, have brought it's level down so low. Or can't go to an emergancy room because it is over crowded with non paying illegals.

Sorry Hylander where is the outrage!

Originally Posted by greginLA

Hylander, please tell me do the bail-outs ever end ?

They will end when we get off of our debt based monetary system, and return to sound banking and investing.

[/quote="greginLA"]will failure be forever proped up at our cost ?[/quote]

The American people have been propping up defaults against the credit of the United States since the creation of the Federal Reserve. Until it is abolished and the people control their money again as the American people did prior to 1913, we will be perpetually bailing out everything that comes our way. But the question that hasn't been getting answered is, how long can the American people sustain this burden? We've been doing it now for 3 and 4 generations. The country has only so much wealth, and once it's gone, it's gone.

[/quote="greginLA"]Do we have a say in any of this ?[/quote]

Well frankly, no. The people through their wonderful public servants have been sold down the river. Color doesn't matter, nor does religion, or race. We are all food for the debt machine on the "D.C. Plantation". When we decide we've really had enough and that means in numbers, as was stated in the Declaration of Independence, "Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and
transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."

[/quote="greginLA"]Bye-the way where is the bail out for the people who can't send there children to the public schools in there area because the illegal aliens, have brought it's level down so low. Or can't go to an emergancy room because it is over crowded with non paying illegals.[/quote]

There is none. You as an American should be able to afford everything you need, and not burden Washington with such trivial concerns. These people here (the illegals) are a down-trodden people who should have your compassion. Not your venom. (And if you believe what I just typed, I have a bunch of swampland in Florida and a few bridges across the country I'll sell ya' dirt cheap) But that's the general attitude there. They are out of touch with the people. Most of them have ever done anything accept go to college and campaign. That's not much of a resume if you ask me. Not like the shopkeepers, and farmers and jurists and lawyers who were our first public servants.

[/quote="greginLA"]Sorry Hylander where is the outrage![/quote]

When enough people are harmed by the government and they really start feeling the pinch, I think the sufferable will be over and the people will act. But if you notice in the past, when times are good, nobody wants to hear it, or they tell you not to come back as they have classified you a wacko and nutjob. But things get bad, those same people are the ones squeeling at the injustice. I started in on this stuff that the Tea Party folks are doing, and the NWO, and the NAU a long time ago, but until folks are directly affected by it, they don't want to do anything about it. Well now, every day my friend, more and more chickens are coming home to roost. So it's just a matter of time.

As Thomas Paine said:

"These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed, if so celestial an article as Freedom should not be highly rated."

Originally Posted by greginLA

All I can say is where is the outrage!

Just read and article written in 2007 about two mexican "Immigrants" who bought a house in California for $720,000 no money down. Their combined income was $2400.00 per month. The interest only loan had a payment of about $4800 per month, and their combined monthly income is $2,400!

Then Bush, Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and Bernake force the US tax payer to bail-out the people that lent that money! Plus all the moritoriums and gov. programs to keep deadbeats like the ones listed above in "their" homes!

Havn't you noticed that no heads in Congress, the Fed. Res. or Wall St. have rolled! and the executives at BOA, Citi group, J.P Morgan and Goldman Sacks are getting $30 billion in bonuses this Christmas, and the US taxpayers are picking up the tab on the losses!

Where is the outrage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

multiply these loans by 20 million. we have been had.