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    Health care win could be shot in arm that Trump, GOP need

    Health care win could be shot in arm that Trump, GOP need

    By Stephen Collinson, CNN
    Updated 1:07 AM ET, Thu May 4, 2017

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    House is set to vote Thursday to repeal part of the Affordable Care Act
    If the bill passes, it's a big win for Trump and Paul Ryan

    Washington (CNN)It's not the beginning of the end for the GOP's bid to repeal Obamacare -- but it might just be the end of the beginning.

    If House Speaker Paul Ryan manages to finally muscle through the GOP health bill on Thursday, he will temper a damaging period of false starts, soul-searching and splits in his party that tarnished the start of Donald Trump's presidency.

    House Republicans will finally be able to go home to their districts for next week's recess and tell their frustrated base they have at least made a down payment on their repeated campaign vows to kill the Affordable Care Act.

    Ryan, who was first forced to pull the bill in late March, will regain some luster for a speakership that had threatened to go down the same unprofitable path as his predecessor John Boehner -- who was driven to distraction by the recalcitrant conservatives in his caucus.

    When he failed to make good on a push to pass Obamacare repeal the first time, Ryan had told reporters that moving from an opposition party, as the GOP was in the Obama years, to a governing party in control of Congress comes with "growing pains."

    A narrow vote to pass the American Health Care Act on Thursday would not represent a coming of age for the Republican majority, but it will at least restore confidence that the GOP can come together to pass an agenda that had been assumed before the health care debacle, to herald a new era of conservative governance.

    And last, and certainly not least, a vote to move the bill to the Senate on Thursday would represent a much needed break for Trump.

    The President has struggled to assert his authority on Washington since taking office -- after telling his fired up and loyal voters he would do just that and change the way the gridlocked capital works. It became a cliché of the reviews of his first 100 days that the President was yet to celebrate a major legislative victory.

    The White House has had to endure a barrage of criticism as the conservative majority has fiddled over Obamacare repeal. Often the President has seem ill-informed about actually what is in the evolving bill, in a way that has undercut his claims to be the ultimate dealmaker.

    But all that could change Thursday.

    Some Republican House members were keen to play their part with a vote in sight on Wednesday, talking up the President for his role, even though some sources had previously described his frequent interventions as counterproductive.
    "He's been all over this like a dog on a bone," Rep. Bill Flores of Texas said.

    "I think the President's done a pretty good job laying his cards on the table."

    Before they celebrate...

    But the lesson of recent weeks means no House Republican will be complacent. They still need to pass the bill.

    Though GOP leaders said they would not put the measure on the floor if they weren't sure they had the votes, there's no cast iron guarantee it passes until the gavel slams down.

    One key Republican source close to the health care battle told CNN's Jim Acosta that no one knows for sure if the 216 votes Ryan needs to pass the bill are secure. And the speaker can afford to lose no more than 22 members of his conference if the bill is to go through.

    Even so, Republican leaders, apparently relieved with forward movement, chose to put on an upbeat face on Wednesday night.

    "We're gonna pass it. We're gonna pass it!" Republican House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy told reporters. "Let's be optimistic about life."

    White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus told CNN's Gloria Borger meanwhile he is "optimistic" about the vote.

    Ready to give vote and move on

    Despite their optimism, there's an undeniable air of fatigue and desperation surrounding the vote.

    Many on the Republican side seemed so wrung out by weeks of tension and brinkmanship they are ready to offload the whole issue to the Senate.

    Forcing their hands was the knowledge that every week that the bill languished in limbo, it became more and more likely that Obamacare would survive in its present form.

    "We're close here on this and then part of it is as the calendar ticks over another page or two, we either get something done or we live with Obamacare," said Iowa Rep. Steve King, before the scheduled vote was announced.

    Flores said the bill had been tinkered with just enough to move some wavering members.

    "Some people think it's moved enough to justify an affirmative vote," he said.

    But the vote on Thursday will still be a leap in the dark for many Republicans.

    There's no certainty that the hard won compromises on preserving coverage for pre-existing conditions will actually work, or even survive the overhaul the Senate is expected to perform when it picks up the legislation.

    Critics say the bill would deprive millions of people of coverage and roll back popular provisions of the Affordable Care Act. The bill is opposed by a long list of seniors and health industry lobby groups on the grounds that it curtails coverage.

    But it represents a delicate balancing act between conservatives who say the original bill was essentially "Obamacare Lite" and moderates who feared they would be blamed for signing away popular parts of the existing law.

    Even the White House admitted Wednesday that no one could know whether the $8 billion in extra cash for high-risk insurance pools used to buy wavering GOP votes was enough. Some independent analysts say it's woefully short.

    But if the bill passes, Republican House leaders at least can feel their job is partly done and can begin to envisage more palatable items on their agenda, including a push for a generational tax reform.

    And they can wash their hands of health care for a while. They won't for now at least think of the tough conference negotiations that are inevitable when the Senate has had its way.
    And Democrats are already setting up 2018 challenges.

    Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, who helped shepherd Obamacare through the House when she was speaker, accused Republicans of gutting coverage and assurances that those with pre-existing conditions could get health care.
    "It's a joke. It's a very sad, deadly joke," she said.

    Alongside Pelosi, Rep. Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut, an ovarian cancer survivor and Obamacare customer bore witness to the importance of health care coverage for those who have pre-existing conditions.

    "This is a very personal fight for me and we will continue this fight ... this is about peoples' lives," she said. "This is about surviving."

    CNN's MJ Lee and Lauren Fox contributed to this report.

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    Pass the bill. Pass it in a big united way. This bill is not only about health care, it's about restoring freedom and liberty to our society and solve a system that is collapsing, we need this to move on to tax reform, which we need to move on to economic rejuvenation, to bring our companies back and keep the ones we have, to create jobs, jobs, jobs that the majority of 94 million Americans presently out of the work force desperately need to have good, independent lives, which will solve much of the uninsured problem, that will reduce poverty and dependence on a bankrupt government, and make America great again.

    The Senate will fiddle with it, so any issues can be resolved there. Just please stop being do nothing nicken-poops and move it on to the Senate for their input and action. This is a do or die bill for our people, but there is nothing that's forever in this legislation, any bugs or issues can be resolved as they are occur, if they do. I think it's going to be a great bill.

    The Senate must also pass the repeal of health insurance from the McCarran-Ferguson Act. HR 372 which passed the House on March 22, 2017 with an historic bipartisan vote of 416-7 (which the totally corrupt MSM refused to report.)
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    Trump gains traction on healthcare bill, vote set for Thursday

    Wed May 3, 2017 | 11:21pm EDT
    By Steve Holland and Yasmeen Abutaleb

    President Donald Trump's effort to roll back Obamacare gained momentum on Wednesday as Republican leaders scheduled a vote in the House of Representatives on Thursday on newly revised legislation.

    House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy expressed confidence the bill would pass and several moderate Republican lawmakers who previously objected to the bill said they could now support it.

    A vote was expected as early as midday Thursday, with lawmakers planning to leave town later that day for a week-long recess. Late on Wednesday, the bill cleared a procedural step allowing it to advance to the House floor.

    Even if a narrow majority in the House approves the bill, it still faces a steep climb in the Senate, where only a few defections could kill the effort.

    Keen to score his first major legislative win since taking office in January, Trump threw his own political capital behind the bill, meeting with lawmakers and calling them in an effort to cajole their support.

    Trump, whose Republican party controls both the House and Senate, is seeking to make good on his campaign promise to repeal and replace Obamacare.

    Aides said he worked the phones furiously.

    Wavering moderate Republicans had worried that the legislation to overhaul President Barack Obama's 2010 signature healthcare law would leave too many people with pre-existing medical conditions unable to afford health coverage.

    But several Republican skeptics got behind the bill after they met with Trump to float a compromise proposal that is still expected to face unanimous Democratic opposition.

    The legislation's prospects brightened further after members of the Freedom Caucus, a faction of conservative lawmakers in the House who played a key role in derailing the original version of the bill last month, said they could go along with the compromise.

    The bill is also receiving a torrent of opposition from medical groups, including the American Medical Association, who say millions of Americans will lose coverage or face higher costs.

    Millions more Americans got healthcare coverage under Obamacare, but Republicans have long attacked it. They view it as a government intrusion into the healthcare system and blame it for driving up costs.

    Called the American Health Care Act, the Republican bill would repeal most Obamacare taxes, including a penalty for not buying health insurance. It would slash funding for Medicaid, the program that provides insurance for the poor, and roll back much of Medicaid's expansion.

    The latest effort comes after earlier pushes by Trump for healthcare reform collapsed twice, underscoring the difficulty of rallying together the Republican party's divided factions.

    Earlier this week, prospects for the legislation appeared grim as several influential moderate Republicans said they could not support the bill, citing their concerns about protecting people with pre-existing conditions.

    Putting a spotlight on the concerns about pre-existing conditions, late-night talk show host Jimmy Kimmel made a tearful plea for keeping that provision in Obamacare as he recounted a medical emergency that arose with his newborn son.

    Kimmel's monologue about his son's congenital heart condition was viewed nearly 19 million times on his show's Facebook page and on Wednesday morning was the No. 1 trending story on YouTube.

    Republican Representatives Fred Upton and Billy Long, who were part of a group of moderate lawmakers who met at the White House with Trump, said the president endorsed their plan to add $8 billion over five years to help cover the cost for people with pre-existing illnesses who could otherwise be priced out of insurance markets.

    Describing Trump's efforts to secure his support, Long said Trump told him: "'Billy we really need you, man.'"

    Representative Mark Meadows, chairman of the conservative Freedom Caucus, said the new language on pre-existing conditions was a "net plus" for garnering the votes needed to pass the healthcare bill.
    Critics of the changes to the law, including several health policy experts, said the $8 billion could not be enough to cover the cost of coverage for the sickest patients.

    Republicans did not await a new score from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office to see how many people would be insured under their revised plan and how much it would cost.

    UNCERTAINTY FOR STOCKS

    Health insurers, such as Anthem Inc (ANTM.N), UnitedHealth Group Inc (UNH.N), Aetna Inc (AET.N) and Cigna Corp (CI.N), have faced months of uncertainty over healthcare's future. So have hospital companies, such as HCA Holdings Inc (HCA.N) and Tenet Healthcare Corp (THC.N).

    On Wednesday, Aetna said it will exit the Obamacare individual insurance market in Virginia next year, citing "growing uncertainty" and expected losses this year.

    House Democrats rejected the latest change to the Republican legislation on Wednesday, saying patients with pre-existing illnesses would be vulnerable to being pushed off their insurance in certain states and face higher costs.

    "This is deadly," House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi told a news conference. "No Band-Aid will fix it."

    Democrats have long thought their best chance of stopping the repeal would be in the Senate, where only a few Republicans would need to defect to stop the law from moving forward.

    The difficulty in the House is now making Democrats optimistic that Republicans will face backlash from voters and face losing seats in the 2018 midterm elections.

    (Additional reporting by David Morgan, Richard Cowan, Susan Heavey, Doina Chiacu and Jeff Mason; Writing by Ginger Gibson, Steve Holland and Doina Chiacu; Editing by Kevin Drawbaugh, Lisa Shumaker and Leslie Adler)

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN17Z1LH
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    "This is deadly," House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi told a news conference. "No Band-Aid will fix it."
    LOL!! It's "deadly" for DemoQuacks. And this ain't no "Band-Aid", girl, this plan will restore liberty, freedom, choice, competition, free but simply regulated markets, with more than ample protections for pre-existing conditions, and it will help the unemployed and underemployed because it sets our employers free to expand their businesses and start hiring Americans and free our fellow citizens of unfair tax penalties for private insurance they either didn't want, didn't need and/or couldn't afford.

    Obamacare has been an anchor around the neck of much of our economy and a punishment to our most vulnerable who didn't qualify for Medicaid but couldn't afford a "no benefits for me" policy whose deductibles are so high they still can't afford our over-priced largely "charitable" medical care except out of their own pocket.

    You can't totally solve the whole problem until you start solving part of it. When politicians realize that the problem has never been insurance companies, it's been the hospitals, specifically the 501 C 3 "charity"fraud hospitals, who provide no "charity", despite their status, and who are basically ripping everyone off with no accountability because the way most of them are set up in communities is the government is one of the "owners". It's why coroners and police departments refuse to investigate murders in hospitals, choosing instead to call the death a "civil matter", forcing families into the horrible world of "medical malpractice" litigation only to face malpractice litigation restrictions at the state law level that prevent most attorneys from being able to afford the case.

    Who are the most vulnerable? Our elderly.

    I hope this problem gets resolved somehow with this new law. If not, then prepare for your own Death Panel.
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    NBC is showing only 16 no votes by Republicans. That means it's a done deal out of the house by 6 votes. Maybe by the time of the vote, we can have all Republicans on board for this step forward to solve this issue and move it on to the US Senate today.

    MOVE IT FORWARD TODAY with 100% YES votes from Republicans.
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    Fox News is saying they have the votes right on the nose, the exact number needed, so still 22 Republican no votes. Maybe NBC is right and there's a few others out there who will be yes votes. Anyway, looking good for a pass out of the House today.

    JUST DO SOMETHING, STOP BEING NICKEN-POOPS and sell it out of the HOUSE into the SENATE. It's a great plan. If there's some little tweak here and there that's needed, the Senate will fix it. They have to make sure it complies with their reconciliation plan anyway, so just get it over there so they can finish this deal.
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    Not a shot in the arm for seniors - DISGRACEFUL - and the rich get richer..

    If passed, the GOP/Trumpcare bill would:

    • Eliminate the guarantee that insurance companies cover maternity care, cancer treatments and substance abuse care.
    • Give away $600 billion in tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans , including nearly $200,000 each in a single year for the wealthiest 0.1 percent of Americans.
    • Increase out-of-pocket costs for older Americans by as much as $12,900 and allows health insurance companies to charge older Americans five times more —effectively establishing an “Age Tax.
    • Gut Medicaid by $880 billion and end the program as we know it, leading to the rationing of care for children, seniors, and people with disabilities.
    • End Medicaid expansion, meaning 11 million working families, children, people with disabilities, hard-working families, and seniors will lose their insurance .
    • Eliminate federal funding for Planned Parenthood, putting care for 2.5 million patients nationwide at risk.
    • Disproportionately hurt Americans living in rural areas , and in some cases cause a consumer’s plan to exceed their annual income

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    So glad this bill passed.

    Senate needs to get the repeal of health insurance from McCarran-Ferguson Act expedited through Judiciary Committee and passed with bi-partisan support. This "erases the lines" that Trump stumped about all through the campaign, this is what expands competition, eliminates collusion, encourages interstate policies and pools, and what will ultimately be the key step to lowering premiums and solving that part of the problem that has caused such expensive health insurance in the individual market.

    The House of Representatives did the right thing, without any question, in my opinion. They have already passed the repeal of health insurance of the McCarran-Ferguson Act by historic bipartisan vote of 416 to 7. They have now passed the repeal/replace of Obamacare with a partisan vote of 217 to 213.

    Both bills are now be in the US Senate.

    The framework is good, the outcome will be great, and now that these two bills have passed the House, the real facts and benefits will have time to come out. The corrupt media has done a terrible job of covering these important bills, in fact the MSM didn't even report the passage of the McCarran repeal that passed the House on March 22, 2017 with an unprecedented bipartisan vote.

    We have a lot of problems in our country, but these two bills that have passed the US House of Representatives are not one of them, they are part of the solution.
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