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    House G.O.P. Signals Break With Trump Over Tariff Threat

    House G.O.P. Signals Break With Trump Over Tariff Threat

    By JENNIFER STEINHAUER DEC. 5, 2016

    Representative Kevin McCarthy, Republican of California and the majority leader, indicated that he would not support a plan to tax companies that move jobs overseas. Credit Al Drago/The New York Times

    WASHINGTON — House Republican leaders — in a major policy break with President-elect Donald J. Trump — signaled on Monday that they would not support his threat to impose a heavy tax on companies that move jobs overseas, the first significant confrontation over conservative economic orthodoxy that Mr. Trump relishes trampling.

    “I don’t want to get into some kind of trade war,” Representative Kevin McCarthy, Republican of California and majority leader, told reporters in response to Mr. Trump’s threats over the weekend to seek a 35 percent import tariff on goods sold by United States companies that move jobs overseas and displace American workers.

    Speaker Paul D. Ryan also pushed back against Mr. Trump on Monday in an interview with a Wisconsin reporter, saying an overhaul of the corporate tax code would more effectively keep companies in the United States than tax penalties. “I think we can get at the goal here,” he said, “which is to keep American businesses American, build things in America and sell them overseas, that can be properly addressed with comprehensive tax reform.”

    Mr. Trump’s economic positions clashed with traditional conservatives during the campaign, but now these differences — on trade, government spending on infrastructure, and tax policies — set the incoming president on a perilous course with the lawmakers whose support he needs to keep his agenda on track.

    “There will be a tax on our soon to be strong border of 35 percent for these companies wanting to sell their product, cars, A.C. units etc., back across the border,” Mr. Trump said in a series of Twitter messages over the weekend.

    The response from Republican leaders underscored the limits of legislating 140 characters at a time on Twitter, and gave Democrats cause to believe they can work with Mr. Trump to outmaneuver congressional Republicans next year.

    “The president-elect won in part by campaigning against the Republican establishment on many economic issues,” said Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the incoming Democratic leader. “If he wants to get something done for working families in this country, he’ll have to stand up to them when it comes time to govern too.”

    Mr. Trump first startled Republicans during the campaign when he attacked trade deals, putting himself more in line with Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont than Mr. Ryan.

    He repeatedly insisted that trade deals had displaced American workers and harmed the economy, upending two centuries of American economic policies that held trade up as good thing, a position that Republicans have pushed in recent decades.

    His positions helped imperil President Obama’s trade pact with Asian nations — the Trans-Pacific Partnership — and abruptly stop further trade negotiations, which many experts in both parties believe limits the United States in its economic position against China, especially when paired with tariff threats.

    “I respect President-elect Trump for fulfilling his campaign promise to withdraw from TPP,” Representative Kevin Brady, Republican of Texas and chairman of the powerful House Ways and Means Committee, said shortly after the election. “We can’t abandon these markets to China and other competitors because American businesses and customers will lose out,” he added.

    Mr. Trump made Republicans bend to his will — and against their long-held opposition to picking “winners and losers” in the economy — even before his inauguration when he announced last month that the Indiana-based air-conditioning manufacturer Carrier would keep roughly 1,000 jobs in the state rather than moving them to Mexico, thanks to $7 million in tax incentives negotiated by Vice President-elect Mike Pence, the current governor of Indiana.

    This is the sort of package Republicans have traditionally loathed. The once intensely conservative Mr. Pence channeled the views of Mr. Sanders when he explained the Carrier deal by saying, “The free market has been sorting it out and America’s been losing.”

    Mr. Ryan and many other fiscal conservatives appeared to agree. “Everyone here knows what it means to lose jobs in their districts,” said Representative Tom Cole, Republican of Oklahoma. “If Trump can keep a thousand families from going through such an ordeal, then good for him. And if it makes other companies think twice about the human consequences of their business decisions, so much the better.”

    But massive tariffs appear too much to abide. Both Mr. Ryan and Senator Mitch McConnell, Republican of Kentucky and the majority leader, supported a bill that gave Mr. Obama and his successor special “fast track” authority to negotiate trade agreements, and are proponents of reducing tariff barriers.

    “Tax cuts and deregulation will make the American economy great again, but tariffs and trade wars will make it tank again,” said David McIntosh, president of the conservative group Club for Growth in a statement, adding, “The majority leader is right to caution against protectionism and to urge a robust debate on free markets and trade.”

    House leaders want to tackle the problem of companies moving operations overseas with a broad rewriting of the corporate tax code, which they say will make American manufacturing more competitive without resorting to punitive measures on individual companies.

    “Tough talk plays well with his base and is arguably even long overdue,” said Brian Walsh, a Republican consultant and former official at the National Republican Senatorial Committee. “But ultimately the legislative focus will be on tax reform and deregulation versus tariffs and trade wars. I don’t believe Republicans will let a golden opportunity to finally pass comprehensive tax reform to fall victim to intraparty squabbling.”

    Republicans also fought mightily this week to remove a provision from a water bill favored by Democrats — and aligned with Mr. Trump’s campaign promises — that would require the use of American-made iron and steel for domestic water infrastructure projects. They said they feared the measure would direct federal funding to some domestic companies but not others.

    Mr. Trump has long been a proponent of propping up the American steel industry even though he has used imported steel for some of his building projects.

    Next on the horizon could be a Medicare fight. Mr. Trump said during his campaign that threats to change the program caused his party to lose its bid for the White House in 2012, name-checking Mr. Ryan in his swipe.

    Mr. Trump and Mr. Ryan are in patch-up mode at present, but how much that holds up remains to be seen. Mr. Ryan has a proposal to transform the Medicaid program into a block grant, and change the Medicare program so that Americans now under 55 would get a specified amount of money from the federal government toward the premium for private health coverage. Mr. Trump has been inconsistent on the Medicare issue, and his choice for secretary of health and human services, Representative Tom Price, shares Mr. Ryan’s views.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/us...ade-trump.html
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    Well, wait a minute. Who are you GOP House Members representing? Aren't you in Congress to represent the citizens of your districts? Do you think they are against tariffs and afraid of trade wars? Why would they be? Why would they be opposed to policies that are in their best interest, that saves jobs and penalizes those who terminate those jobs? Americans don't care about a "trade war". We'll win that puppy hands down in a nanosecond.

    GOP, you need to get your mind right about what's got to be done to fix our country. The only way we rebuild our economy and get all these citizens who are now out of the work force back into it is to do exactly what Donald Trump has said he was going to do for the past 18 months. That's deport illegal aliens so Americans retake their jobs they lost to them, pause legal immigration so Americans retake new jobs, and have policies and benefits to keep our industries here but when they leave and want to back-haul into the United States, they have to pay a tariff. In addition, Trump is going to withdraw from all these stupid trade deals you morons have tied US down with, and negotiate trade deals that are beneficial to the United States which means there will be tariffs and/or quotas on imports from countries that have substantially lower operating costs and wages and want to ship items that we have in great supply produced by our own companies.

    Of course if you pass the FairTax, then those tariffs could be less than they would otherwise need to be and in some cases not needed at all plus you'd have plenty of money in the Treasury to pay your bills and robustly fund SS and Medicare.

    It's obvious most of you haven't spent any real time trying to figure out a) what's wrong with the US economy, b) let alone how to fix it. You've got yours so you don't give a damn about anyone else, so yours is the first Swamp To Be Drained, in case you haven't figured that out yet.
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    Of course if you pass the FairTax, then those tariffs could be less than they would otherwise need to be and in some cases not needed at all plus you'd have plenty of money in the Treasury to pay your bills and robustly fund SS and Medicare.
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    I didn't hear the weepiing, wailing and gnashing of teeth when Pres. G. Bush was giving companies money to move overseas, cutting deals for them. Also, he said he (We, that is) we 'giving money to companies already overseas so they could stay competitive'.

    Maybe I'm seeing the reason for Elaine Chao's appointment. Did it not work. Then again, maybe, this is just a little posturing????

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