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    How to beat Karl Rove at his own game



    How to beat Karl Rove at his own game

    by Steve Deace on February 6, 2013

    Karl Rove was once known as the “architect” but now a more appropriate nickname might be “demolition man.”

    Give Rove credit for one thing. He knows how to coalesce the conservative movement. He was the master strategist credited with getting the movement on one page to propel George W. Bush to eight years in the White House. But conservative dissatisfaction with Bush’s big government policies grew, and then eventually boiled over in the Obama years to what we now know as the tea party movement.

    Now Rove has succeeded in uniting the conservative grassroots yet again, but this time by becoming the face of the loathed Republican Party establishment. Rove’s prominent and annoying display on Fox News as the Republican ruling class’ mouthpiece and his new effort aimed at defeating the tea party makes him the point man for destroying the very conservative movement that made him a national name in politics in the first place.

    There is now an out-in-the-open civil war within the Republican Party, and most of the grassroots patriots I talk to are just fine with that. The GOP establishment is so hated by its own base that increasingly more and more of its grassroots have decided they might be better off with Democrats in charge rather than Rove’s kind of milquetoast, John Boehner-type of Republican. In an all-out fight for freedom and liberty these types of Republicans have proven to be about as useful as lipstick on a pig.

    At least when the Democrats are shredding the Constitution, and imposing more statism destined to catapult this republic “forward” into bankruptcy, it’s easier to recruit the next Ted Cruz or the next generation of Jim DeMints. Nothing stifles the GOP grassroots more than the GOP establishment. Look no further than the 2012 election for evidence of this. Mitt Romney did what he needed to do with independents to win, but actually did a poorer job than John McCain did in 2008 of energizing his own party.

    But that’s what Rove and his ilk want. They’re always willing to do things to those of us in the grassroots they’d never do to Democrats, because in the end these people want to pillage and plunder the public trough every bit as much as the Democrats do. They just want the check from the U.S. Treasury made out to their cronies instead. The leadership of the Democratic Party wants to run a country. The leadership of the Republican Party wants to run a party. They would rather lose elections than lose control of the party to us.

    Realizing this has unified the grassroots in opposition to Rove, and likely any Republican in any primary with his support will immediately be given the conservative equivalent of a scarlet letter. Yet we still lack a proven plan to defeat him at his own game. Thankfully, that plan already exists, and it’s already proven to be successful.

    Conservatives in Virginia took over the state convention last year and changed the way the party would nominate its gubernatorial candidate. Instead of a primary that provides a target-rich environment for Rove and his political hacks to buy a nomination, Virginia Republicans decided to determine their nominee at convention — where the people who care the most about the future of the party and the country reign supreme. That decision drove the establishment candidate out of the race altogether, and allowed emerging conservative superstar Ken Cuccinelli a clear path to the nomination.

    Virginia has the right idea. For example, why should Rove and his GOP elites be allowed to pick the U.S. Senate nominee for my home state of Iowa? Congressman Steve King has served nearly every conservative cause that matters with distinction. If the conservative grassroots wants King as their nominee in next year’s election, following Virginia’s lead would almost assure that would happen. After all, who should determine who represents our values? Those in the grassroots that actually fight for them, even when it’s not popular, or Rove and his cynical Beltway bunch that really don’t have too many core worldview differences from Democrats?

    Besides, I love hoisting foes with their own petard. We originally went to a primary system to avoid the smoke-filled rooms of conventions, so it would be deliciously ironic to revert back to conventions to take Boss Tweed-wannabes like Rove and the big money out of the process and restore virtue and principal.

    It’s time we in the grassroots that do most of the heavy lifting for this party stopped allowing the Republican Party establishment and the liberal media, who are virtually one in the same nowadays, to determine our standard-bearers. Yes, some of our preferred candidates recently (i.e. Todd Akin, Richard Mourdock, etc.) haven’t been up to the task, but others (i.e. Cruz, Rand Paul, etc.) have been.

    Let’s face it. Nobody snatches defeat from the jaws of victory like the Republican Party establishment. They’ve lost the popular vote in five of the last six presidential elections. They lost total control of the federal government in the 2006 and 2008 elections. They presided over 12 years of dangerous and unprecedented loss of liberty, freedom, and fiscal sanity with nary a shot fired.

    They have aided and abetted the left’s plans to turn us into a Western European-style socialist democracy, so we can’t possibly do any worse than they have.

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    Mr Rove is not a conservative he simply tries to play one on TV, IMO he has harmed the GOP when he was in charge for 8 years and yet he is still out front on tv still running the same old progressive game,too bad he did not have Bush's common sense to retire from the microphone.
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    KARL ROVE STEPS UP WAR ON CONSERVATIVES

    Exclusive: Joseph Farah reveals how failed 'architect' is targeting tea-party Republicans


    Published: 24 hours ago
    by JOSEPH FARAH

    What lesson did Karl Rove learn from losing virtually every race in which his super-pacs supported a primary candidate as well as losing virtually every race in which they supported Republicans opposing Democrats in the November election – from Mitt Romney on down?

    Apparently, his conclusion is these super-rich political action committees he runs must double-down against conservative and tea-party Republicans in the 2014 mid-term elections and other future votes.

    In other words, Rove is planning to wage a scorched-earth policy against any candidates seeking office other than establishment, middle-of-the-road Republicans.

    That’s according to a report in Rove’s newspaper of choice – the New York Times. And this is one New York Times report that actually seems to be credible.

    This is why I have called upon Rove to be dumped by conservative and Republican donors. Not only does his strategy represent proven failure to elect Republicans, it presents more obstacles for conservative and tea-party candidates to win – which is exactly his point.

    One thing should be clear by now: The establishment, country-club Republicans, formerly referred to in an earlier day as “Rockefeller Republicans” and more often today as RINOs (Republicans in name only), have not only lost their hammerlock grip on the GOP, but on their ability to win elections. Period.
    Meanwhile, Rove has built his political consulting career building war chests worth hundreds of millions of dollars – much of that money coming from wealthy donors who don’t share Rove’s politically suicidal bent nor his liberal ideological rigidness.
    Among the groups Rove commands is one ironically called the “Conservative Victory Fund,” which, of course, misleads many conservative donors into believing they are helping conservatives with their contributions. Nothing could be further from the truth. They are helping to defeat them.

    For instance, one of the most dependable conservatives in the House – a thorn in the side of House Speaker John Boehner, who has betrayed the tea-party movement that placed him in power – is Steve King of Iowa. Guess who one of the first targets of Rove’s money-machine politics is said to be. That’s right. Steve King.

    Steve King is illustrative of the kind of principled conservative Republicans should be enthusiastically backing. Not only does he win, but he gives the Washington establishment fits – both accommodating Republican leadership and the extremists in the Democratic Party.

    Clearly, Rove would prefer to see a Democrat take King’s seat than for him to remain in office. He made the same decision about Missouri U.S. Senate candidate Todd Akin in his race against Barack Obama cheerleader Claire McCaskill in 2012.

    Another one of Rove’s heavily endowed super-pacs is American Crossroads. Here’s what the president of that organization had to say about Rove’s internecine war strategy.

    COUNCIL BLUFFS, Iowa — The biggest donors in the Republican Party are financing a new group to recruit seasoned candidates and protect Senate incumbents from challenges by far-right conservatives and Tea Party enthusiasts who Republican leaders worry could complicate the party’s efforts to win control of the Senate.

    “There is a broad concern about having blown a significant number of races because the wrong candidates were selected,” said Steven J. Law, the president of American Crossroads, the “super PAC” creating the new project. “We don’t view ourselves as being in the incumbent protection business, but we want to pick the most conservative candidate who can win.”

    The first test of the groups’ efforts to influence primary races could come in Iowa, according to the Time, where Republicans have a chance to win a Senate seat held by retiring Sen. Tom Harkin, a seat that hasn’t been open since 1974.

    “We’re concerned about Steve King’s Todd Akin problem,” Law said. “This is an example of candidate discipline and how it would play in a general election. All of the things he’s said are going to be hung around his neck.”

    In response, King said: “This is a decision for Iowans to make and should not be guided by some political staffers in Washington,” King said in an interview, pointing out that he won his congressional race last year even though Barack Obama easily defeated Mitt Romney in Iowa. “The last election, they said I couldn’t win that, either, and the entire machine was against me.”


    Rove’s intentionally misnamed “Conservative Victory Fund” says it will be intensely vetting prospective contenders for congressional races to try to weed out candidates who are seen as too conservative to win general elections.

    How will Rove’s highly paid political mercenaries conduct their war of attrition against conservatives? They will spend more Republican donor money in primaries against other Republicans they find distasteful and too conservative. That, of course, dries up money that could be used to beat Democrats. But that’s not as important to Rove as controlling the tenor of the party itself and preserving himself with the mythical monikers of “kingmaker” and “architect.”

    What’s the ultimate solution to this?

    It’s two-fold:

    • Conservatives – real conservatives – should not give a dime to any organization run or influenced by Rove.
    • A new super-pac must be created that supports the conservatives and tea-party Republicans with equal or greater sums of money than Rove squandered in 2012.



    If Rove wants to understand the real problem the Republican Party faced in 2012 and in the future, all he needs to do is look in the mirror.


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    1. This Crack Head and the Town Drunk "Village Idiot G.W. Bush is why we have B.H. Obama

    2. He is a has been and a Never was and trying to make Mr. Irrelevant .... Relevant

    3. Broke in the head people like Rove have to be put in their place

    4. and Oh damn... go buy a Man Bra

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