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    How Congress Prevented Border Fence Law's Implementation

    How Congress Prevented Border Fence Law's Implementation

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    11/12/2015 06:46 PM ET

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    Sen. Ted Cruz talks about border security near the U.S. Border Patrol Rio Grande Valley Sector headquarters in Edinburg, Texas, on June 9, 2015. AP View Enlarged Image

    Border: Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, pointed to a 2006 law requiring 700 miles of double-layer border fencing. Unfortunately, in 2007 another Texas Republican helped the Democrat Congress change that.

    Presidential candidate Ted Cruz told Fox's Sean Hannity, "Existing federal law is quite robust" on border security, and "There should be 700 miles of double-layer fencing built along our southern border."


    He added: "The Obama administration has about 30 miles built. If I am elected president, we will build it. What is missing is the presidential will to get it done."


    Americans like to think that when their elected representatives pass a law, it's a law. If only.

    It's true that in 2006, the Republican-controlled House and a large bipartisan majority in the Senate passed, and President Bush signed, the Secure Fence Act, requiring 700 additional miles of double chain-link and barbed-wire fences with lights and camera poles.

    But in 2007, the Homeland Security Department complained of being, er, fenced in, arguing that different types of terrain required different barriers.


    So Cruz's predecessor, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, authored an amendment that DHS would not be required "to install fencing . .. if the Secretary determines that the use or placement of such resources is not the most appropriate means to achieve and maintain operational control over the international border at such location."


    The Democrat-controlled Congress passed it.


    In 2011, addressing supporters in El Paso, President Obama jeered that Republicans "wanted a fence. Well, the fence is now basically complete." Audience members, as the official WhiteHouse.gov transcript shows, shouted "Tear it down!" and "They're racist!"

    "Maybe they'll need a moat," the president added. "Maybe they want alligators in the moat. They'll never be satisfied."

    What the president did in that speech was, put simply, to lie — claiming to have built the "fence" that Republicans enacted into law, without noting that he and his fellow Democrats in Congress changed it to require much less effective fencing.


    Most of the fencing that Obama claims "is now basically complete" consists of vehicle barriers that people can easily hop over, or single-layer fences.


    Cruz is absolutely right that what's missing is presidential will. Under the amended law, the next chief executive could make 700 miles of double-layer fencing a priority — and tell DHS to shut up and build it.




    http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/111215-780592-congress-prevented-border-fence-law-implementation.htm


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    See? I told you he supports the "fence", not a wall. He's never supported a wall. He only says he supports a wall because Trump is going to build a wall and Cruz is trying to keep up with Trump. Won't work, but that's what he's doing, being a copy cat like Trump said. Cruz even said at one of the debates he'd get Donald Trump to build it. Obviously, because Cruz doesn't know anything about building anything let alone a border wall. It's like Trump said, "just a copy cat, doesn't matter, because they don't know how to do it", whether it's building a wall or deporting illegal aliens. No clue. All talk, no action, just like they've given us every day they've been in Congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    See? I told you he supports the "fence", not a wall. He's never supported a wall. He only says he supports a wall because Trump is going to build a wall and Cruz is trying to keep up with Trump. Won't work, but that's what he's doing, being a copy cat like Trump said. Cruz even said at one of the debates he'd get Donald Trump to build it. Obviously, because Cruz doesn't know anything about building anything let alone a border wall. It's like Trump said, "just a copy cat, doesn't matter, because they don't know how to do it", whether it's building a wall or deporting illegal aliens. No clue. All talk, no action, just like they've given us every day they've been in Congress.
    Pray tell, exactly what kind of wall is Trump going to build? A wall and fence are interchangeable words when talking about a barrier on our Southern border. Are you saying Trump is going to build a high thick masonry structure along our entire Southern border? To assume such would be extremely disingenuous. Trump has made zero mentions about placing a "Great Wall of China" across our border. To avoid disappointment, please don't get hung up on the word "wall" and "fence."

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    For their safety many Border Patrol Agents don't want a wall because they can't see through it to see who is on the other side and what they are doing. Many would prefer a fence that they can see through.


    In this Nov. 17, 2008 file photo, a U.S. Border Patrol vehicle stands guard along the border fence with its concertino wire topping it, in San Diego. (AP Photo/Lenny Ignelzi, File) — AP

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    For their safety many Border Patrol Agents don't want a wall because they can't see through it to see who is on the other side and what they are doing. Many would prefer a fence that they can see through.


    In this Nov. 17, 2008 file photo, a U.S. Border Patrol vehicle stands guard along the border fence with its concertino wire topping it, in San Diego. (AP Photo/Lenny Ignelzi, File) — AP

    http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...order-fencing/
    That makes sense, JoheDoe. However, I still don't think Trump is going to actually build a "high thick masonry structure." Until he says something much more specific than he already has, I just think he's using a word that he thinks gives a tougher connotation.

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