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    Granting amnesty would probably lead to a rebellion and probably the end of what little is left of the republic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    Ditto bigtex! There is nothing to either listen to or consider regarding amnesty! The answer is no for the very reasons you so eloquently set forth! And why is it that law abiding Americans are always the ones asked to listen and consider the pleas from those who either broke our laws or who sympathize with the plight of those who did, in respect to amnesty.

    The criminal invaders are never asked to consider what their actions and demands are doing to the country for which they invaded.

    Instead we get hyperbole, hysteria and more lies from those who demand amnesty. Who needs that!

    I have listened and I have considered their arguments and that's why I’m against it! There's nothing more to listen to....
    Exactly, seem our new member is a troll and doesn't belong here. Their comments are IDIOTIC. Should we have to listen to the reasons why child molesters are let free? HELL NO. AMNESTY is out of the question. There is NO reason for it. This country has over 15 million people out of work. Until each one of them is working we don't need any more people here taking jobs from us. This country is also a nation of LAWS. What sense does it make to not enforce the laws, reward those who break them and turn the USA into a country of CHOAS.......as in MEXICO.
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    Re: Hypothesis: Massive Amnesty Is Granted, Then What?

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    Blanket Amnesty:

    Let's say it is granted next year, then what do you suppose would happen?


    Could it happen despite opposition from the American people? What would happen to Arizona's law?

    Yes.

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    Re: Hypothesis: Massive Amnesty Is Granted, Then What?

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    Blanket Amnesty:

    Expect 75% to 90% taxation so that unassimilated foreigners will not have to work for a living.

    If we Americans are dumb to allow these things to happen, things that no other country allows, we almost deserve to have them happen...

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    ANY amnesty is tantamount to total social and financial disaster. We all know it! I hate to keep banging the same drum over and over but everyone needs to realize that our current elected leaders and the few in the WH that hold the power are in the process of transforming our country into a socialist dictatorship. It's all right there in front of us to clearly see!! We need to all summon the courage to do what is necessary to take back our country no matter the cost. It's all we have.
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    Re: Hypothesis: Massive Amnesty Is Granted, Then What?

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    Blanket Amnesty:

    Let's say it is granted next year, then what do you suppose would I hope there are enough PROUD and BRAVE left in this country to stand up and forcefully take this country back and restore democracy.
    Democracy is the last thing we want. We are a "republican form of government". Atrtical 4, Section 4, U.S. Constiution.

    Republic = Rule by law
    Democracy = Mob rule

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    Re: Hypothesis: Massive Amnesty Is Granted, Then What?

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    Blanket Amnesty:

    Let's say it is granted next year, then what do you suppose would happen?


    Could it happen despite opposition from the American people? What would happen to Arizona's law?
    The Globalists would then be even more closer to realizing their goal of turning American into a socialist country. That has been their intent all along. Wipe out the middle class, have an enormous population that is uneducated, unskilled and dependent on the government... What am I saying?? They have that NOW! A nice chunk of our national debt might actually go down if they stop providing them with benefits.

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    Re: Hypothesis: Massive Amnesty Is Granted, Then What?

    Quote Originally Posted by legalalien
    Blanket Amnesty:

    Let's say it is granted next year, then what do you suppose would happen?


    Could it happen despite opposition from the American people? What would happen to Arizona's law?

    Americans in the majority are awake, and the numbers are growing every day.

    The republicans cannot expect to get back into the majority in Washington, and then sit back and do more of the same that THEY did.

    The democrats could get back into the majority, but if they continue the same that they've shoved down America's collective throat, then their party will be dead gone, because as we speak they are loosing numbers.

    Remember the bad guy never really wins.

    When all else fails . . .

    God WINS, as he has foretold thousands of years ago EXACTLY how He "will" win.

    Let's all pray that the really bad guys make some mistakes that are very much for the benefit of America's law enforcement agents.

    Are there any Italian gangs, thugs, and mafias around?

    That's what "will" happen to others who do the same.

    God is not happy with this - read His Word and see who the bad guys really are.

    It's all about two things - money and power - always has been throughout the ages.

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    Re: What are the amnesty terms?

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    This random chance immigrant probably knows no english, has limited work skills, and really has no motivation to adopt American principles. They cling to what they know ..... their previous culture, and spend most of their time with others who came from their country. Assimilation is very difficult. When they cannot function here, we really must spend money to take care of them. We cannot just let them starve or kick them out from both a legal and moral sense. It is not their fault that we lacked the disclipline to deny the immigration in the first place. We need to be smarter.

    On the other hand, there's another foreigner, who was desperate to leave their country for whatever reason. Years ago, we had nobody to pick lettuce, so we overlooked some immigration laws (both the gov and business) to find someone to pick the lettuce before it spoiled. We overlooked a lot of things that we shouldn't have to let them stay. Some of them were highly useful to our society and found they had a better existance here. Some of them entirely embraced our way of life and show excellent citizen ideals. They learned English, and treat others with respect and concern. An illegal with proven benefit, compared with an unknown random lottery winner. I am certainly willing to consider amnesty in this case. Maybe there are other cases ..... won't know until someone talks about it. It may be very difficult to implement, but it is worth it to consider all alternatives to keep competitive in this world.

    Well, Excuse Me, but my forebears who came here from Italy and Scotland did not get off the boat at Ellis Island and immediately start crying, “Oh poor me. I just can’t handle all the terrible humiliating stress of assimilating! It’s just too DIFFICULT! Mommy, I wanta go home! Waaaaaaa…â€

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    "Hypothesis: Massive Amnesty Is Granted, Then What?"


    Frankly, Washington is pushing the envelope against the American people so often that it's not uncommon to believe that they actually hate "we the people".

    Listen to what comes out of their mouths about us!

    Consider this - there are a lot of Americans who can afford to up and leave the USA to find a better home around the world.

    What if they did?

    Consider what America looks like now with the hostile and deadly illegal aliens.

    Really?

    Seriously?

    Anyone want to live inside America if that happens?

    What Washington is NOT looking at is that there are enough Americans who can pack up and leave the USA forever.

    Sure, Washington is playing their roulette wheel for votes.

    What if Washington only had the hostile illegal aliens?

    How many of America's politicians would be allowed to live if the illegal aliens ruled what Washington thinks they're ruling now?

    It's a thought that could become reality.

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