Thread: I Don't Trust Guiliani or Fred Thompson

I was going to switch to idenpendent, but will wait until after the spring 08 election. That way I can still vote in the spring and can vote any party in the fall.

I'm sticking with Ron Paul!!!!!!


From the Constitutional Party:

The Constitution Party presidential candidate will be selected at its convention in the spring of 2008. We can’t say for sure what will be decided by the convention delegates, but as the party who puts principle above party loyalty, it seems that in the unlikely event that Doctor No is able to capture the Republican nomination, we would stand behind him 100%.

http://www.constitutionparty.com/news.php?aid=613#Paul

Giuliani is indeed terrible on legal immigration and illegal aliens. He promotes "free trade" and a globalist agenda.

Here is a recent press release:

Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:18 am (PST)
For Immediate Release
Contact: Maria Comella

Thursday, July 12, 2007
646-943-7890

Rudy Giuliani Discusses Commitment to Global Competitiveness and
Strengthening America's Reputation Abroad

New York City

In a speech in Novi, Michigan today, Mayor Rudy
Giuliani will continue to lay out his 12 Commitments to the American
People by discussing his commitment to expanding America's involvement
in the global economy and strengthening our nation's reputation around
the world.

To make the United States more globally competitive, the Mayor will
empower America's 21st Century workforce, bring more countries and
people into the global marketplace, and aggressively advance free
trade and new markets for American-made products worldwide.

The Mayor will also propose refocusing the State Department and
reforming the Foreign Service to help strengthen America's reputation
abroad by combating anti-Americanism and expanding our country's
economic and cultural exchanges with the Arab and Muslim world, while
promoting freedom internationally.

"This is a moment of rare opportunity for new American leadership,"
Giuliani has said. "To succeed in the 21st Century, America must
expand our historic commitment to free people, free governments, and
free markets. That means expanding our involvement in the global
economy and strengthening our reputation around the world."

Expanding America's involvement in the global economy and
strengthening our nation's reputation around the world is one of
Rudy's Twelve Commitments to the American People, his bold vision
aimed at moving America forward. He will continue to travel the
country this summer to detail each of his Twelve Commitments. For more
about the Twelve Commitments, please click here.

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Paid for by the Rudy Giuliani Presidential Committee, Inc. © 2006-2007

www.JoinRudy2008.com

RUDY'S COMMITMENT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE:

- I Will Expand America's Involvement in the Global Economy and

Strengthen our Reputation Around the World:

"America is at its best when we serve as a shining city on a hill, a
beacon of freedom and opportunity to people around the world. Our
success in this new century depends on reinvigorating our historic
mission with determined leadership that gives hard-working American
families confidence their future will be better than their past. In
the process, we can strengthen our national security and economic
security while building a more peaceful and prosperous world."

Mayor Rudy Giuliani

EXPANDING OUR INVOLVEMENT IN THE GLOBAL ECONOMY

Strengthen America's 21st Century Workforce:
Education is power in an information economy. American workers must be
the best trained and prepared workforce in the world in order to
successfully compete in the global economy.

- Promote science and mathematics through technical certification or
an associate degree.

- Advance successful training programs leading to competitive skills
the market demands.

- Allow early withdrawal from retirement accounts for qualified
retraining programs.

- Expand the number of H1B Visas for skilled foreign workers to meet
market demand.

Create a Global Prosperity Initiative:
Bringing more countries and people into the global marketplace will
make America safer and create new markets for our products worldwide.
America must promote higher living standards around the world, help
reform the International Monetary Fund and World Bank to encourage
pro-growth policies, and distribute foreign aid in ways that reinforce
good governance and economic freedom, similar to the Millennium
Challenge Corporation.

Aggressively Advance Free Trade:
Rudy will tear down the walls to free trade and create new markets for
American-made products. He will protect Americ's innovations and
intellectual property by enforcing our trade agreements aggressively.

- Reduce corporate tax rates and regulatory burden so that Americans
can better compete in the global economy.

- Reform the excesses of Sarbanes-Oxley that are driving our
corporations overseas to list on foreign exchanges.

- Reenact the Presidential Fast-Track Trade Promotion Authority and
complete the Doha Development Round.

STRENGTHENING OUR REPUTATION AROUND THE WORLD

Refocus State Department and Reform Foreign Service: Rudy will set new
priorities for America's representatives to better promote U.S.
policies abroad, while measuring the success of ambassadors and
embassies. He will reform and increase the size of Foreign Service and
expand language training to meet the demands of the 21st Century.

Combat Anti-Americanism: America must win the war of ideas. Rudy will
reform and refocus our international broadcasters, such as Voice of
America, and will better coordinate our government's global
communications to help export the idea of freedom and our values, and
stimulate debate within oppressed societies.

Expand U.S.-Muslim Exchange Programs: Rudy will promote economic,
cultural, and educational engagement with the Arab and Muslim through
public-private partnerships to turn the tide against radical Islamic
terrorists and connect more countries to the global marketplace of ideas.

Protect Freedom: Promoting religious and political freedom, human
rights and democracy for dissidents across the world, along with
supporting women's rights and promoting women's education in the Arab
and Muslim world, must be a top priority.

If I may borrow a term Michael Chertoff likes to use: I have a feeling in my gut that Rudy Giuliani is going to be the Republican nominee.

Never in my life have I ever wished more that I was wrong.

If he is the nominee, and he becomes President, his positions on immigration and trade are going to be a disaster.

As I watch his rise in the polls I think this is what those folks in the lifeboats felt while watching the Titanic go down. Not a damn thing they could do. Inevitable.

I'm NOT giving up. Still gonna fight right up to convention time ... but, I still have this Chertoff gut giving me warning pains.

I think Thompson is going to be the Republican nominee. I don't believe that Republicans have become so disenchanted that they would vote in Guliani.

Originally Posted by girlygirl369

And on the East Coast, on Sunday, The New York Times carried a story focusing on a question that has already been the subject of many blog postings — is America ready for a "trophy wife" first lady? The woman in question is Jeri Kehn Thompson, who married the actor and former senator in 2002, is 24 years his junior, and, as the Times notes, has "youthfulness, [a] permanent tan and bleached blond hair." The story also quotes a political scientist who says Republican women may be turned off by an "ick factor" when they see Thompson, 64, with his younger wife.

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Yes, it was published in The Style section, which is one of the more absurd elements of the Sunday NYT.

Please, could we stick to substantive critiques of these candidates, most of whom-unfortunately-have many tangible deficits that need to be addressed, without delving too much into irrelevant trivialiaties?