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06-26-2008, 12:27 PM #1
Immigration Daily's take on amnesty
from ILW.com
1. COMMENT
Unclouded Future
For the laws to be respected, they must be respectable. The
cruelties and indignities visited by today's immigration law on
immigrants are such that America's immigration laws are not now
respected by anyone. Yes, there is that fanatical, nazi-like (and
indeed un-American) faction which insists that the travesty
passing for the law today deserves respect (these are the
enforcement-first mujahadeen). We have no doubt that these
extremists would have opposed the Boston Tea Party also (and on
the same grounds too - obeying the law, however unjust, comes
first with these folks). Some misguided fools have always existed
in every historical period in every large community, so it is
scarcely surprising that we have these among us today. It is
wrong to pretend they dont exist. Such a move would be an
ostrich-like strategy that some in the bar advocate. We disagree
with this approach, since we don't believe that wishing is going
to make the Tancredos of the world go away - they need to be
confronted head-on, as the Revolutionists confronted the British
loyalists in Boston. Open confrontation is all that is necessary
here, not negotiation. Lets put the bigots aside, and look at
America instead.
Large numbers of Americans are uncomfortable with immigrants, and
wish they would all just go home. In fact, many Americans would
like to see legal immigration reduced, not increased (something
the business immigration community would do well not just to
note, but to understand). It is a long hard road of education
ahead to explain to these Americans that America is the home of
today's undocumented aliens, that they are not going anywhere,
and that documented Americans had better start welcoming their
undocumented neighbors, since no one has any other alternative.
Immigration is, and will remain for another generation, one of
the top issues in national politics, and hence addressing
undocumented immigration is going to have to come before high-
skilled immigration. Those who want more H1B numbers without
working towards at least some form of mild legalization, are
mistaken as to their chances of success in getting skilled visa
relief, since they are not giving sufficient weight to the new
position that undocumented immigration now occupies in national
politics. It is futile to wish it were different, and unrealistic
to think that it will be different in the foreseeable future.
Equally, those who advocate for immigrant rights should
understand that the adjustments that America must make for the
undocumented are so large, and so emotional for many, that many
compromises will be politically necessary. Among these are the
following. The path to permanent residency will not only be a
long one, but the first laws will have no such paths, this will
have to come later. Many shibboleths will have to be discarded
entirely. For legalization to happen, Family Based 4th preference
will be abolished, and parents will likely be removed from the
Immediate Relative classification. There is a good chance that
the DV lottery will be abolished, and that refugee numbers will
not just be cut, but entirely stopped for many years. Business is
at the immigration table too, and it will be making plenty of
sacrifices of its own. Advocates for extended families and for
mercy for immigrants will have to wait for their turn which will
likely be years in coming.
None of these will be easy for any side - those who would see
immigration cut back, those who would want more legal immigration
(either family immigration or business immigration), those who
want legalization. All sides at table will rightfully demand, and
receive, their pound of flesh. It is inaccurate to assess
legalization as the 800-pound gorilla or as the beast that must
be tamed before turning to other matters. When Congress thinks
about immigration today, legalization is front and center in
immigration policy. And how Congress eventually goes about
dealing with legalization will set the context for both family
immigration and business immigration (as also for DV and
refugees). The past is dead, we have to look at the future with
clear eyes, unclouded by visions and terms of the past.
We welcome readers to share their opinion and ideas with us by
writing to mailto:editor@ilw.com.
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06-26-2008, 01:21 PM #2It is a long hard road of education
ahead to explain to these Americans that America is the home of
today's undocumented aliens, that they are not going anywhere,Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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06-26-2008, 02:06 PM #3
Some misguided fools have always existed
in every historical period in every large community, so it is
scarcely surprising that we have these among us today.
Starting with the author of this article."A Nation of sheep will beget a government of Wolves" -Edward R. Murrow
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06-26-2008, 02:51 PM #4
The author left off their name. I wonder why? Maybe because the article is a bunch of bs.
RIP Butterbean! We miss you and hope you are well in heaven.-- Your ALIPAC friends
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06-26-2008, 02:53 PM #5
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"Yes, there is a fanatical, nazi-like faction which insists that the travesty passing for the law today deserves respect...."
Goodness, that must be me. However, I strongly disagree that U.S. laws governing immigration and border security are a "travesty"!Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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06-26-2008, 02:59 PM #6It is a long hard road of education
ahead to explain to these Americans that America is the home of
today's undocumented aliens, that they are not going anywhere,
and that documented Americans had better start welcoming their
undocumented neighbors, since no one has any other alternative.
WELL, they do. But you don't want it to come to that, and neither do I. I do predict it however.Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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06-26-2008, 08:43 PM #7
Once again, ALIPAC is against ILLEGAL immigration -most specifically, the takeover of America by Mexicans. The author needs to tell the whole story, and include the second Civil War that won't be far behind. I say this based on the fact this country has bent over backwards to pacify people of Latin descent, right down to basically giving them a spanish only school -paid for by taxpayers. At the same time we see how the Mexican gov't continues to thumb their noses at us. 2 of our Border Patrol agents are in jail, yet a repeat dope smuggling Mexican thug kills a Border Patrol agent and is released after 5 months. Since they have no respect for us, can an outright declaration of war against us be far behind...
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06-27-2008, 12:32 PM #8Originally Posted by Expendable
I had to laugh at all the outrage at the Supreme Court decision to uphold the right of an individual to bear arms. These are law abiding citizens. What the MS-13 is going to obey the law when it comes to fire arms? Give me a break. The second amendment was specifically written for a government out of control and oppressing its citizenry (that's citizenry not immigrants). I thought if this thing goes bad you will see millions of people marching in the streets of DC. I don't have guns, but I'd be there with them. I predict that the American citizen will become so passionate about losing jobs and wages in this country that they will be willing to march. It may take awhile but it will happen. I don't want to think of the alternative that this guy doesn't even ponder.Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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06-27-2008, 12:44 PM #9
The writer of this article says the illegals are not going anywhere and we all need to get used to it, and he talks abouts compromise. There shouldn't be any compromise. We, the people, according to the Constitution say who lives within America's borders. I don't see anything in the Constitution that says just because millions of foreign squatters came here without an invitation, that we need to compromise with them just because they're already here. The Constitution does say, however, that we're allowed to protect ourselves against invasion.
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06-27-2008, 03:47 PM #10Originally Posted by tinybobidahoRIP Butterbean! We miss you and hope you are well in heaven.-- Your ALIPAC friends
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