Thread: Importing terrorists on H-1Bs, J-1s, and EBs

Note that the H-1b visas that doctors can come in on are exempted from the yearly cap.

The article from the Indian website (http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/17423.asp) points out how easy it is to get false papers in India.

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<<<<< JOB DESTRUCTION NEWSLETTER No. 1724 -- 7/07/2007 >>>>>

The article below is interesting, especially considering it was published
on an Indian news website. It's a stark warning that Al-Queda is using H-1B
and H-4 visas to create sleeper cells in the U.S. and they are going about
it in much the same way they are doing it in the United Kingdom.

Al-Queda is recruiting software engineers, doctors and other
highly skilled professionals in Bangalore, Hyderabad and
other cities all around the world to create sleeping cells in
US, UK and other countries. They focus on India because Indian
passports will be presumed ?terror-free?.

In case you haven't heard, the doctors who are accused of masterminding the
attempted car bombings in the UK tried to work in the United States, and
there are articles circulating in newspapers that 45 radical Muslim doctors
have planned attacks within the United States.

We have lots of foreign doctors in the United States, as the Washington
Post explains:

About 25 percent of U.S. physicians -- or 228,655 -- are trained
abroad, not counting those trained in Canada, according to the
American Medical Association. Of the 11,000 applicants certified
to apply for residency and fellowship programs in 2006, 83
percent were non-U.S. citizens; 25 percent came from India; 6
percent from Pakistan; and 4 percent from China, according to
the medical education commission.

The three most common ways for foreign doctors to get visas are:

1) Employment Based Green cards (EB) -- foreign doctors can apply for
permanent residency in the United States.

2) CONRAD Program -- Medical students who entered the United States with a
J-1 visa status for the purpose of obtaining graduate medical education can
use the CONRAD program to convert their J-1 visa to an H-1B. These H-1B
visas are exempt from the yearly cap but are limited to about 30 visas per
state per year.

3) H-1B -- foreign doctors can come to the U.S. directly by getting an H-1B
visa. These visas are not exempt from the yearly cap.


On July 6th Lou Dobbs had a report on this new terrorist threat.
Unfortunately the report was marred by a moronic reporter that stated as a
matter of fact that there is a shortage of medical personnel. The reporter
did her shortage shouting without a challenge from the host of the show,
Kitty Pilgrim. Don't get me wrong -- I'm glad that the Lou Dobbs show had
this report, but that reporter really blew it.

DOUGHERTY: The number of foreign-born doctors in the U.S. is growing
because the country needs them. (on camera) The United States has a
shortage of medical personnel. And about a quarter of all physicians
working in the United States are international medical graduates,
according to the American Medical Association.


The next statement was so dumb I almost fell off my chair.

(voice-over) In order to work in the U.S., foreign medical
professionals must have an H1-B visa, which is meant for highly
skilled professionals. The Department of Homeland Security says
doctors get the same kind of screening that a computer specialist
or lawyer would, including fingerprinting, and a face-to-face
interview at the U.S. embassy in their own country.


Foreign medical professionals might be given the same security screen as
computer programmers but that shouldn't make anyone feel safe! Most H-1Bs
are given no more than a few basic security screenings such as a name
check, and even that is considered a huge burden by the Dept. of Homeland
Security. Security screenings for most H-1Bs amount to no more than a
rubber stamp from visa processors that get bonuses for the number of visas
they approve.

This is what the DHS has to say about FBI checks, and it's not very
reassuring:

http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/CISO ... II-F-Name_
Checks.pdf

FBI name checks, one of the security screening tools used by
USCIS, significantly delay adjudication of immigration benefits
for many customers, hinder backlog reductions efforts, and may
not achieve their intended national security objectives.42

To put this in plain English, it says that security checks for employment
based visas are a huge burden for employers who need cheap labor quickly,
and even if the checks are completed they probably won't do any good. Doing
security checks causes backlogs because of all the extra hassle -- so why
not just get rid of security checks altogether and let anyone come into our
country that wants a job? Well, that's just what is going on!

According to the Immigration Lawyers Website, the USCIS decided to reduce
their backlog by approving 60,000 green cards without doing background
checks. Don't you think if Al-Queda is smart enough enter the UK they will
be smart enough to exploit this carelessness by our own government?

"USCIS cleared 60,000 from the EB backlog by approving cases
older than 6 months, some without completing FBI security
checks."

If the USCIS is this careless with green cards we can safely assume that
H-1B visas get far less scrutiny.


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http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/17423.asp
UK terror happened because of unchecked import of skilled migrant workers
-- it is time to stop H1B permanently in US


http://www.ilw.com/immigdaily/
Mothers Milk


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 2007070600
617.html?hpid=moreheadlines
Two Terror Suspects Inquired About Medical Positions in U.S.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html
Aired July 6, 2007


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... nterror405
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45 Muslim doctors planned US terror raids


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http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/17423.asp

UK terror happened because of unchecked import of skilled migrant workers
-- it is time to stop H1B permanently in US
Harish Baliga
Jul. 4, 2007

The way America and Britain imports skilled workers without thorough
background checks is the root cause of Al-Queda?s success in creating
unlimited sleeping cells.

Al-Queda is recruiting software engineers, doctors and other highly skilled
professionals in Bangalore, Hyderabad and other cities all around the world
to create sleeping cells in US, UK and other countries. They focus on India
because Indian passports will be presumed ?terror-free?.

It is time to stop the so called H1B program. Every skilled professional
entering UK and US must go through a thorough background check and be
monitored continuously by the Homeland Security department.

The cost for monitoring these individuals should be transferred to the
employers in US and UK who sponsor these alien workers.

The Al-Queda recruitment network in Indian cities go well beyond the
perimeters of the Islamic communities. Software Engineers and other
professionals are constantly approached with large sums of money by these
Al-Queda recruiters to create sleeping cells in America and Britain.

All H1Bs should be monitored. All foreign skilled workers should be
immediately checked for their background. If you just look at the Islamic
names, you can be very well fooled. In India for example, it takes little
bribe to change name and get a false passport. The US consulate normally
allows H1Bs to get the visa without much question.

The H1B can also bring false spouse in H4 visa. The H4 visa holder is just
a spouse of the H1B and is not allowed to work in US. A false H4 visa
holder can easily be a suicide bomber larking in US malls.

It is time to stop H1B visa issuance immediately the way it is done in US.
"We''ll expand the background checks that have been done where there are
highly skilled migrant workers coming into this country," British Prime
Minister Brown told the House of Commons in his first appearance at the
weekly Prime Minister's questions.

"As a result of what has happened in the National Health Service, I have
asked Lord West, the new Terrorism Minister, to conduct an immediate review
as to what arrangements we must make in relation to recruitment," Brown
said.

It is required that Bush Administration and Homeland Security department
take the matter into their hands fast. The employers sponsoring these H1Bs
should be taxed heavily for paying the cost of the background checks of
H1Bs and constant monitoring of the same.

Anyone can walk in as H1B in America, bring a false H4 spouse with him or
her. They can form sleeping cells and create havoc in America like they did
in Britain.


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http://www.ilw.com/immigdaily/

Comment
Mothers Milk

USCIS cleared 60,000 from the EB backlog by approving cases older than 6
months, some without completing FBI security checks. The USCIS action may
run afoul of:

9 FAM Appendix I 302.1 which defines "documentarily qualified applicants"
as those applications which have completed its clearance procedures
9 FAM 42.51 Procedural Notes 1 which states that monthly allottment of visa
numbers should not include non-documentarily qualified applicants absent
special individual circumstances
22 CFR 42.51 which limits the number of immigrant visas that may be issued
in any month to 10% of the worldwide amount of 140,000, plus any remaining
balance from previous authorizations
A week has passed since the Visa Bulletin was updated and no lawsuit has
yet been filed. While a lawsuit will uncover all the sordid facts of this
drama, the litigation road is protracted and cumbersome. Is there a better
way? Yes. Since money is the mother's milk of politics, Congress is in an
ineviable position to hold USCIS accountable. Rep. Lofgren began the
dialogue by issuing letters to Secretary Rice and DHS Secretary Chertoff
asking them to reconsider any mid-month updates of the July Visa Bulletin,
maybe the Senate can get into the act too. Mark-up hearings should be held
by both the Senate and the House next week to suspend USCIS's fee increase
until USCIS comes clean about this mess. Anything less from Congress will
be a tacit condonation of Executive Branch anarchy in our immigration
system.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 2007070600
617.html?hpid=moreheadlines

Two Terror Suspects Inquired About Medical Positions in U.S.

By Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, July 7, 2007; A07


Two of the foreign-born doctors suspected of plotting last week's failed
car bomb attacks in London and Glasgow had inquired about applying for
medical training positions in the United States, U.S. officials said
yesterday.

Within the past year, Mohammed Asha, 26, a Saudi-born Jordanian, contacted
a Philadelphia-based clearinghouse that reviews and approves foreign
applicants for U.S. medical residency and fellowship programs. A second
suspect, who was not identified, approached the same group, whose members
include the American Medical Association, medical schools and teaching
hospitals.

Stephen S. Seeling, vice president of operations for the nonprofit
Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates, confirmed that FBI
agents visited its offices in Philadelphia this week but also declined to
discuss the two contacts for privacy reasons.

All eight suspects in the custody of British authorities are believed to
have worked for Britain's National Health Service. The two men who rammed a
burning sport-utility vehicle packed with propane cylinders into Glasgow
Airport's main terminal Saturday are alleged to be Iraqi doctors who worked
at a nearby hospital. Some officials have said the same pair was linked to
two Mercedes-Benz sedans rigged with propane tanks and nails that failed to
detonate in London on Friday.

British authorities have responded to news of the plot with alarm that, in
that country's rush to fill a physician shortage, they failed to scrutinize
adequately the visa applications of foreign-born doctors and medical
workers.

But FBI and Department of Homeland Security officials yesterday played down
the significance of the suspects' contacts inside the United States and
said they did not immediately evoke official concern that U.S. procedures
for screening foreigners seeking training in specialized fields are lax.

"There continues to be no credible information to suggest an imminent
threat to the United States," DHS spokesman Russ Knocke said. "The focus of
the investigation is overseas, and there is no record of travel to the U.S.
by the suspects." The contacts were first reported by the Philadelphia
Inquirer and the Associated Press.

Since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the United States has markedly
tightened procedures for admitting foreigners to study or work in technical
fields. Changes include the introduction of a computer system that since
2003 has tracked 2.5 million foreign students and dependents, 1 million of
them active. All visa applicants now must undergo consular interviews, FBI
fingerprint and name checks, and immigration and State Department
background checks.

Universities, companies and tourism groups have complained about these
procedures, alleging that the obstacles faced by potential visitors have
eroded U.S. competitiveness and its international standing.

Victor C. Johnson, associate executive director for public policy for the
Association of International Educators, said that tightening the limits
would be counterproductive. "You get to the point it's not worth the cost
anymore," Johnson said. "That's one of the issues of globalization.
Countries like ours and the United Kingdom are talent-short, and we rely on
foreign talent."

Knocke said the government is not considering expanding screening
requirements because of the British arrests. "In many respects, events in
recent days validate the focus that's been placed on foreign nationals
traveling in the United States in terms of screening and vetting," he said.

About 25 percent of U.S. physicians -- or 228,655 -- are trained abroad,
not counting those trained in Canada, according to the American Medical
Association. Of the 11,000 applicants certified to apply for residency and
fellowship programs in 2006, 83 percent were non-U.S. citizens; 25 percent
came from India; 6 percent from Pakistan; and 4 percent from China,
according to the medical education commission.

Foreign-trained doctors must obtain certification by the commission to
apply for medical residency programs in the United States, Seeling said,
which most states require before granting licenses.

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... dt.01.html

Aired July 6, 2007

Well, there are new concerns tonight that radical Islamist terrorists in
Britain may be planning attacks against targets in this country. Two
suspects in the failed car bombing in Britain made inquiries about working
in the United States.

Separately, British police today charged one of the suspected terrorists
with conspiracy to cause explosions.

Jill Dougherty reports from Washington.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JILL DOUGHERTY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): According to the FBI, two
suspects in the British car bombings looked into the possibility of working
as doctors in the United States, contacting the Philadelphia-based
Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates.

Apparently, however, they did not take the test for med school graduates,
and never came to the U.S.

Muslim physicians in the United States, meanwhile, are condemning the U.K.
attacks.

DR. ASMA MOBIN-UDDIN, COUNCIL ON AMERICAN-ISLAMIC RELATIONS: I actually was
shocked to hear about the plot. I was angry. I really felt sick -- a sick
feeling inside that physicians, people from my own profession, could be
guilty, suspected of being guilty of such heinous acts. I really couldn't
believe it.

DOUGHERTY: The number of foreign-born doctors in the U.S. is growing
because the country needs them. (on camera) The United States has a
shortage of medical personnel. And about a quarter of all physicians
working in the United States are international medical graduates, according
to the American Medical Association.

(voice-over) In order to work in the U.S., foreign medical professionals
must have an H1-B visa, which is meant for highly skilled professionals.
The Department of Homeland Security says doctors get the same kind of
screening that a computer specialist or lawyer would, including
fingerprinting, and a face-to-face interview at the U.S. embassy in their
own country.

Their names are run through what's called the Interagency Border Inspection
System, crosschecking a number of law enforcement and security databases.

If they get a visa, they're checked by Customs and Border Protection and
fingerprinted again as they enter the U.S.

Homeland security says it is not planning any changes to H1-B visa
regulations at this time.

Dr. Khalique Zahir of the Islamic Medical Association of North America
agrees the checks are thorough.

DR. KHALIQUE ZAHIR, ISLAMIC MEDICAL ASSOCIATION OF NORTH AMERICA: It's very
difficult already for many foreign medical doctors to immigrate to this
country and to get the training they need. It's because significantly
different since 9/11.

Other than the basic backgrounds that they do, I don't know what more needs
to be done.

DOUGHERTY: Dr. Zahir says the U.K. attack should not reflect on Muslim
physicians in the U.S. Terrorism is contrary to Islam, he says, and
contrary to Islamic medical ethics.

Jill Dougherty, CNN, Washington.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PILGRIM: Now more evidence tonight that radical Islamist doctors may be
planning attacks in this country. A group of 45 doctors threatened to
launch a terrorist attack against Mayport Naval Base in Jacksonville,
Florida. That according to "The Daily Telegraph" newspaper in London.

British police found evidence of the plot while investigating the three
so-called cyberterrorists in London. A British judge sentenced the three
men to long prison terms yesterday for inciting terrorist murder.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... nterror405
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45 Muslim doctors planned US terror raids

By John Steele, Crime Correspondent
Last Updated: 2:14am BST 06/07/2007

Glasgow airport bomber left suicide note
Ties that bind terror car bomb suspects
Airport attack doctor was known extremist
A group of 45 Muslim doctors threatened to use car bombs and rocket
grenades in terrorist attacks in the United States during discussions on an
extremist internet chat site.


Cyber-terrorists: Tariq Daour, Younis Tsouli and Waseem Mughal


Police found details of the discussions on a site run by one of a
three-strong "cyber-terrorist" gang.

They were discovered at the home of Younis Tsouli, 23, Woolwich Crown Court
in south-east London heard.

One message read: "We are 45 doctors and we are determined to undertake
jihad and take the battle inside America.

"The first target which will be penetrated by nine brothers is the naval
base which gives shelter to the ship Kennedy." This is thought to have been
a reference to the USS John F Kennedy, which is often at Mayport Naval Base
in Jacksonville, Florida.

The message discussed targets at the base, adding: "These are clubs for
naked women which are opposite the First and Third units."

It also referred to using six Chevrolet GT vehicles and three fishing boats
and blowing up petrol tanks with rocket propelled grenades.

Investigators have found no link between the Tsouli chat room and the group
of doctors and medics currently in custody over attempted car bomb attacks
in London and Glasgow.

However, sources said it was "definitely spooky" that the use of doctors
for terrorist purposes was being discussed in jihadi terrorist circles up
to three years ago.

Part of the inquiry into the London and Glasgow incidents will focus on
whether al-Qa'eda has recruited doctors or other medical professionals
because they are less likely to attract suspicion and can move easily
around the western world.

The three "cyber terrorists" - a British national and two who had been
given the right to live in Britain - are facing lengthy jail sentences
after admitting using the internet to spread al-Qa'eda propaganda inciting
Muslims to a violent holy war and to murder non-believers.

They had close links with al-Qa'eda in Iraq and believed they had to fight
jihad against a global conspiracy by kuffars, or non-believers, to wipe out
Islam.

The three are the first defendants in Britain to be convicted of inciting
terrorist murder on the internet. They waged cyber-jihad on websites run
from their bedrooms.

Tsouli promoted the ideology of Osama bin Laden via email and radical
websites. He said in one message he was "very happy" about the July 7
bombings in London in 2005.

Tsouli, along with Tariq Daour, a biochemistry student, and Waseem Mughal,
a law student, were intelligent, computer-literate men who promoted violent
propaganda.

They created chat forums to direct willing fighters to Iraq and discuss
murderous bomb attacks around the world. Films of hostages and beheadings
were found by police.

Daour, 21, of Bayswater, west London, who was born in the United Arab
Emirates, yesterday admitted inciting another person to commit an act of
terrorism wholly or partly outside Britain. Moroccan-born Tsouli, 23, of
Shepherd's Bush, west London, and British-born Mughal, 24, of Chatham,
Kent, admitted the same charge on Monday.

They are due to be sentenced today. They also admitted conspiring together
and with others to defraud banks, credit card companies and charge card
companies. Daour had instructions for making explosives and poisons, the
court was told. Police found instructions on causing an explosion with
"rocket propellant'' and constructing a car bomb.

In one on-line conversation, Daour, asked what he would do with ?1
million, replied: "Sponsor terrorist attacks, become the new Osama."

The three men outwardly appeared to be leading normal lives, studying and
living with their parents. Tsouli had come to the UK with his family from
Morocco in 2001.

Mughal had a degree in biochemistry from Leicester University and was
studying for his masters.

Daour, who was granted British citizenship in May 2005, had applied to
start a law degree.

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ceelynn,

This is happening in Britian only because that nation has a long and sordid history of supporting and facilitating terrorist organizations. I am posting links here that point to British tolerance for terrorist financiers and organizations. In comparision the US is consistently hostile to any terrorist organizations, and for that reason such operations are far more difficult in the US.

Given this wealth of evidence the Visa Waiver Program is a far larger risk than any visa based program such as H1B. British citizens can visit the US for 90 days at a time without need for a visa. A terrorist can come in without a visa and then simply overstay without having to be cleared by DHS.

Video: Britain as a center for radical Islam by reaching a quid pro quo agreement for islamist groups or in other words - "You let us stay here and foment terror elsewhere and we won't touch you"
http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/187072.aspx

Radical Islam finds unlikely haven in liberal Britain
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0805/p01s03-wogi.html

Jihadis Among British Police
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... _id=466832

Britain panders to radical Islam
http://www.dailypioneer.com/columnist1. ... er=kanchan

Terrorist financing in Britian [Before Iraq, but well after 9/11]
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020528/j&k.htm#5

British support for terrorist Laldenga
http://www.zogam.org/documents.asp?arti ... uments_245

Britain fomenting terrorism in Nagaland
http://www.onwar.com/aced/data/november ... nd1954.htm

Given this wealth of evidence the Visa Waiver Program is a far larger risk than any visa based program such as H1B. British citizens can visit the US for 90 days at a time without need for a visa. A terrorist can come in without a visa and then simply overstay without having to be cleared by DHS.

AND THE US IS ACTUALLY SETTING UP OFFICES IN OTHER COUNTRIES

LIKE CHINA AND VIETNAM TO "ENCOURAGE TOURISM". BUT THOSE THAT COME IN ON THOSE VISA WAIVERS WILL STAY....MANY OF THEM.

I BELIEVE THIS IS BIG BUSINESS TRYING TO FIND ANOTHER WAY TO BRING IN CHEAP LABOR UNDER THE GUISE OF "FACILITATING TOURISM" FOR THE "ECONOMIC BENEFIT" OF THE UNITED STATES.

AND THEY JUST HAPPEN TO BE DOING THIS NOW....HMMMM. WE ALREADY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE COMING HERE TO VISIT AND THEN NOT LEAVING. WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO ADD FUEL TO THE FIRE?

Absolutely. The Visa Waiver program loophole needs to be closed.