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    Law Of The Sea Treaty = The Rape of America

    Law Of The Sea Treaty = The Rape of America

    By J.D. Longstreet Wednesday, May 23, 2012

    The Obama Administration has dragged the Law of the Sea Treaty back before the US Senate this week.

    The treaty, if approved by the Senate will amount to the rape of America.

    Here’s what the Center for Security Policy has to say about the Law Of The Sea Treaty: “If, on the other hand, the members of the U.S. Senate trouble themselves to study, or at least read, the text of the Law of the Sea Treaty, they would immediately see it for what it really is: a diplomatic dinosaur, a throwback to a bygone era when UN negotiations were dominated by communists of the Soviet Union and their fellow-travelers in the Third World.
    These adversaries’ agenda was transparent and wholly inimical to American equities. They sought to: establish control over 70% of the world’s surface; create an international governing institution that would serve as a model for bringing nation states like ours to heel; and redistribute the planet’s wealth and technology from the developed world to themselves. LOST codifies such arrangements – and would subject us to mandatory dispute resolution to enforce them via stacked-deck adjudication panels.” SOURCE.
    Still, many, if not MOST, Americans have never heard of it—the Law Of The Sea Treaty. So why is it important?

    OK, let’s look at some reasons why the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST) is important to you as an American and to all inhabitants of the earth:

    Why We Lose if LOST Wins

    By asserting UN authority over seven-tenths of the Earth’s surface, LOST would be the largest territorial conquest in history.
    In principle, the treaty would assert UN jurisdiction over U.S. territorial waters, and eventually over waterways within our country.


    It would create a huge bureaucratic entity called the “Enterprise” which would regulate and tax all commercial uses of the high seas.


    By taxing all efforts to develop the wealth of the seabed, the UN would be given a huge revenue stream, independent of national governments, to push its agenda for international socialism.
    The treaty would require the redistribution of cutting-edge technology from the U.S. to all governments in the “developing world,” including extremely repressive governments.
    Get the picture??? It’s that cussed “One World Government thing again! (Otherwise known as “Global Governance) You know… the “GLOBALISTS” at work.


    Apparatchiks from the Obama Administration will trudge over to the US Senate this week to sing the praises of LOST. They will applaud it and explain to the Senators that it is the best thing since the US Constitution for America, indeed, for the whole world.
    It will be a pack of lies.


    So, where do we stand today on LOST? Not good, I’m afraid.
    The National Center for Public Policy Research has a website providing educational resources on the Law of the Sea Treaty (also known by the acronyms LOST and UNCLOS).


    “The Law of the Sea Treaty is a terrible deal for the U.S. It would threaten our sovereignty, place a significant portion of the world’s resources under the control of a U.N.-style body, and complicate our efforts to apprehend terrorists on the high seas by subjecting our actions to review by an international court unlikely to render decisions favorable to the U.S.,” said National Center Vice President David Ridenour.
    “The Law of the Sea Treaty would help radical environmentalists achieve what they haven’t been able to achieve through legislation,” Ridenour added. “Greenpeace has said ‘the benefits of the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea are substantial, including its basic duties for states to protect and preserve the marine environment and to conserve marine living species.’

    The Natural Resources Defense Council challenged the Navy’s use of ‘intense active sonar,’ arguing that it violates the treaty by posing a danger to marine life. The Navy ultimately agreed to scale back use of this technology. The Law of the Sea Treaty has also been used by Australia and New Zealand in an attempt to shut down an experimental blue fin tuna fishing program and by Ireland in an attempt to shut down a plant on land in England”


    The website, the United National Law of the Sea Treaty Information Center, contains a collection of research papers, commentaries and blog entries about LOST from a variety of think-tanks, scholars, opinion writers and bloggers. It can be accessed at: unlawoftheseatreaty.org.


    “Although the Law of the Sea Treaty has been around for decades—the National Center for Public Policy Research first worked on it in 1982—relatively few people know much about it,” said Amy Ridenour, president of the National Center for Public Policy Research. “The United Nations Law of the Sea Treaty Information Center website is designed to help correct this.”
    The National Center for Public Policy Research is a non-partisan, non-profit educational foundation based in Washington, D.C.


    It is more important now then ever before to contact your senators and urge them to oppose the Law of the Sea Treaty.


    Look. This Law Of The Sea Treaty is serious socialist, global governance, trickery! And NOBODY IS Talking ABOUT IT! Of course, we cannot expect the so-called “Mainstream Media” in America to bring it up, being so deep in the bunker for Obama, that is. The near incestuous relationship between the MsM and Obama prevents them from actually informing their readers, listeners, and viewers, of important, pending, life-changing policy being considered in the nation’s legislature.


    We urge you to educate yourself about the Law Of The Sea Treaty—and do so quickly.
    In the meantime, however, we suggest that you get on the phone, or send an e-mail or fax to the offices of your US Senators and ask them to vote NO on the Law Of The Sea Treaty.
    Every so often, we get a chance to use our constitutional rights for good. This is one of those times.

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    Defeat the Lost Treaty Again
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    This is a Treaty, they can "Not" be undone once signed, without a change to the Constitution with Amendments. Please call your Senators and tell them "NO" we've "LOST" enough already!
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    Steve the Roofer said "
    This is a Treaty, they can "Not" be undone once signed, without a change to the Constitution with Amendments. Please call your Senators and tell them "NO" we've "LOST" enough already!"


    I disagree. See the analysis below:



    [QUOTETreaties Do Not Supersede
    the Constitution



    The following qualifies as one of the greatest lies the globalists continue to push upon the American people. That lie is: "Treaties supersede the U.S. Constitution".
    The Second follow-up lie is this one: "A treaty, once passed, cannot be set aside".
    HERE ARE THE CLEAR IRREFUTABLE FACTS: The U.S. Supreme Court has made it very clear that
    1) Treaties do not override the U.S. Constitution. 2) Treaties cannot amend the Constitution. And last,
    3) A treaty can be nullified by a statute passed by the U.S. Congress (or by a sovereign State or States if Congress refuses to do so), when the State deems a treaty the performance of a treaty is self-destructive. The law of self-preservation overrules the law of obligation in others. When you've read this thoroughly, hopefully, you will never again sit quietly by when someone -- anyone -- claims that treaties supercede the Constitution. Help to dispell this myth.
    "This [Supreme] Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty." - Reid v. Covert, October 1956, 354 U.S. 1, at pg 17.
    This case involved the question: Does the NATO Status of Forces Agreement (treaty) supersede the U.S. Constitution? Keep reading.
    The Reid Court (U.S. Supreme Court) held in their Opinion that,
    "... No agreement with a foreign nation can confer power on the Congress, or any other branch of government, which is free from the restraints of the Constitution. Article VI, the Supremacy clause of the Constitution declares, "This Constitution and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all the Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land...’ "There is nothing in this language which intimates that treaties and laws enacted pursuant to them do not have to comply with the provisions of the Constitution nor is there anything in the debates which accompanied the drafting and ratification which even suggest such a result...
    "It would be manifestly contrary to the objectives of those who created the Constitution, as well as those who were responsible for the Bill of Rights – let alone alien to our entire constitutional history and tradition – to construe Article VI as permitting the United States to exercise power UNDER an international agreement, without observing constitutional prohibitions. (See: Elliot’s Debates 1836 ed. – pgs 500-519).
    "In effect, such construction would permit amendment of that document in a manner not sanctioned by Article V. The prohibitions of the Constitution were designed to apply to all branches of the National Government and they cannot be nullified by the Executive or by the Executive and Senate combined."
    Did you understand what the Supreme Court said here? No Executive Order, Presidential Directive, Executive Agreement, no NAFTA, GATT/WTO agreement/treaty, passed by ANYONE, can supersede the Constitution. FACT. No question!
    At this point the Court paused to quote from another of their Opinions; Geofroy v. Riggs, 133 U.S. 258 at pg. 267 where the Court held at that time that,
    "The treaty power as expressed in the Constitution, is in terms unlimited except by those restraints which are found in that instrument against the action of the government or of its departments and those arising from the nature of the government itself and of that of the States. It would not be contended that it extends so far as to authorize what the Constitution forbids, or a change in the character of the government, or a change in the character of the States, or a cession of any portion of the territory of the latter without its consent."
    ][/QUOTE]
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thHorseman View Post
    I disagree. See the analysis below:Treaties Do Not Supersede
    the Constitution
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    .........that's why I hang out here you all make me smarter!
    That's probably why most of us hang out here. Works for me. Of course the best thing is to not pass the treaty at all. Sen Wicker, Inhoffe and one other GOP committee leader put a good OPED piece together on this. Unfortunately I do not have a link to it. But I told my other GOP senator that if he had any doubts at all about which way to vote on this to consult those three guys . I also told him that this treaty CANNOT be ratified without GOP help. If it is ratified, the GOP is finished. I told him he might want to pass that thought onto the GOP leadership in the Senate. Also, I forget exactly how many Dem senators are up for re-election this cycle, but I believe it is around 20-23. They should all be notified by their constituents that voting for this treaty is NOT a winning strategy for their re-election bid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thHorseman View Post
    Also, I forget exactly how many Dem senators are up for re-election this cycle, but I believe it is around 20-23. They should all be notified by their constituents that voting for this treaty is NOT a winning strategy for their re-election bid.
    I knew this would come in handy at some point.

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    The following is the link to the OPED piece by Inhoffe, Wicker, and Sen Jeff Sessions on LOST. Pretty good stuff to pass on to your Senators:
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    Obama’s Land of the LOST

    Obama’s Land of the LOST

    May 25, 2012
    By Michelle Malkin


    Science czar John Holdren


    What’s green and blue and grabby all over? President Obama’s new pressure campaign for Congress to ratify the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST).

    The fight over LOST goes back three decades, when it was first rejected by President Ronald Reagan. He warned that “no national interest of the United States could justify handing sovereign control of two-thirds of the Earth’s surface over to the Third World.” According to top Reagan officials William Clark and Ed Meese, their boss believed the treaty’s “central, and abiding, defect” was “its effort to promote global government at the expense of sovereign nation states — and most especially the United States.”

    The persistent transnationalists who drafted LOST favor creation of a massive United Nations bureaucracy that would draw ocean boundaries, impose environmental regulations, and restrict business on the high seas. They’ve tinkered with the document obsessively since the late Sixties, enlisted Presidents Clinton and Bush, and recruited soon-to-depart GOP Sen. Dick Lugar to their crusade. Ignore the mushy save-the-planet rhetoric. Here’s the bottom line:

    Crucial national-security decisions about our naval and drilling operations would be subject to the vote of 162 other signatories, including Cuba, China, and Russia.
    While our sovereignty would be redistributed around the world, most of the funding for the massive LOST regulatory body would come from — you guessed it! — the United States. Forbes columnist Larry Bell reports that “as much as 7 percent of U.S. government revenue that is collected from oil and gas companies operating off our coast” would be meted out to “poorer, landlocked countries.” This confiscatory act of environmental justice would siphon billions, if not trillions, away from Americans. International royalties would be imposed; an international tribunal would be set up to mediate disputes. There would be no opportunity for court appeals in the United States.

    LOST is just the latest waterlogged power grab by the Obama administration. As I reported in 2010, the White House, through executive order, seized unprecedented control from states and localities over “conservation, economic activity, user conflict, andsustainable use of the ocean, our coasts, and the Great Lakes.” Obama created a 27-member “National Ocean Council” by administrative fiat; the council is specifically tasked with implementing ocean-management plans “in accordance with customary international law, including as reflected in the Law of the Sea Convention.” The panel is chaired by radical-green science czar John Holdren (notorious for his cheerful musings about eugenics, mass sterilization, and forced abortions to protect Mother Earth, and for hyping weather catastrophes and demographic disasters in the 1970s with his
    population-control pals Paul and Anne Ehrlich
    ) and White House Council on Environmental Quality head Nancy Sutley (best known as the immediate boss of disgraced green-jobs czar and avowed Communist Van Jones).

    Other members include Dr. Jane Lubchenco — head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and a former high-ranking official at the left-wing Environmental Defense Fund, which has long championed draconian reductions of commercial fishing fleets and recreational fishing activity in favor of centralized control — and fraudster Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, who doctored the administration’s drilling-moratorium report.

    It is not hyperbole to expose LOST’s socialist roots. Meddling Marxist Elisabeth Mann Borgese, the godmother of the global ocean regulatory scheme, made no bones about it: “He who rules the sea,” she exulted, “rules the land.” LOST is a radical giveaway of American sovereignty in the name of environmental protection. And it should be sunk once and for all.
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