Thread: Losing My Independence

The more the illegal aliens grow in numbers, the more our quality of life suffers...I know they have ruined the quality of life for me and my family here in Southern California...They are everywhere here, and I now feel like an outsider in my own country, and I no longer feel safe anymore!

O.K. We woman of American whether it be Woman Sufferage or equal rights in the workplace have fought for our rights. We don't tolerate sexual harrassment in the workplace, so why should we tolerate it from other culture's. I think it is time to rally all woman in the U.S. to fight for our rights again. Too many cultures are coming to the U.S. and bringing their attitudes towards woman.

President Calderon wants a Defamation League for Hispanics, he wants to interfer in our country. Well we woman in America want to feel safe in our homes and the streets of America. Mexican men need to leave their mechismo culture at the border. Or better yet maybe we should rally the woman of Mexico to join us in this fight, only in their country.

When I come back from San Diego, I am going to call upon all ALIPACERS to join me in getting documentation on rape's, sexual harrassment, etc. It is time for the Women to come forward with our complaints of what is happening to us in this country. With everyone's help I think it is time to let our government as well as Mexico and other culture's know that we are not going to tolerate this behaviour anymore.

Three MS-13 gang members were charged in the brutal rapes of two deaf girls, one 14, the other 17, in a Massachusetts park in 2002. One victim, who also suffered from cerebral palsy, was pushed out of her wheelchair before being raped repeatedly.

I need someone to explain to me how this shows ther "power".

The more the illegal aliens grow in numbers, the more our quality of life suffers...I know they have ruined the quality of life for me and my family here in Southern California...They are everywhere here, and I now feel like an outsider in my own country, and I no longer feel safe anymore!

This thread just makes my stomach turn -- talk about living in the shadows -- seems now we AMerican WOMEN are the ones having to live in the shadows!!!

This is a major issue for me. I am a 44 year old woman, but anywhere I go, particularly to my local 7/11 just in trying to stop and get items on my way to work, I am stared down by these everytime. I can't even imaginie what very young attractive girls go through with it. I am SO, SO sick of this.

Where are all our wonderful Democratic feminists NOW? Huh? Where is their outrage at this?? Oh, so they can gang rape all they want and no one can speak up on it?

We are being set back 100 years by this .... but so far, no one is speaking up to protest it???

"It appears as if there is a fear that if this is honestly discussed, people will hate all illegal immigrants. So there is silence. ? But in being silent about the rapes and murders, it is as if the victims never even existed."

This quote alone is so infuriating, I have a hard time even reading it twice. So, we are supposed to "keep quiet" so that we dont' tarnish the repuation of illegal immigrants? Guess their victims and what they went through doesn't matter -- it's all about making everyone "like" the illegal???

That is beyond sick.

I was sent this email on rape information and thought I would share.


1) The first thing men look for in a potential victim is hairstyle. They are most likely to go after a woman with a ponytail, bun, braid or other hair style that can easily be grabbed. They are also likely to go after a woman with long hair. Women with short hair are not common targets.

2) The second thing men look for is clothing. They will look for women who's clothing is easy to remove quickly. Many of them carry scissors around specifically to cut clothing.

3) They also look for women on their cell phone, searching through their purse, or doing other activities while walking because they are off-guard and can be easily overpowered.

4) Men are most likely to attack & rape in the early morning, between 5:00 am. and 8:30 am.

5) The number one place women are abducted from/attacked is grocery store parking lots. Number two: is office parking lots/garages. Number three: is public restrooms.

6) The thing about these men is that they are looking to grab a woman and quickly move her to another location where they don't have to worry about getting caught.

7) Only 2% said they carried weapons because rape carries a 3-5 year sentence but rape with a weapon is 15-20 years.

8 If you put up any kind of a fight at all, they get discouraged because it only takes a minute or two for them to realize that going after you isn't worth it because it will be time-consuming..

9) These men said they would not pick on women who have umbrellas, or other similar objects that can be used from a distance, in their hands..

Keys are not a deterrent because you have to get really close to the attacker to use them as a weapon. So, the idea is to convince these guys you're not worth it.

10) Several defense mechanisms he taught us are: If someone is following behind you on a street or in a garage or with you in an elevator or stairwell, look them in the face and ask them a question, like what time is it, or make general small talk: "I can't believe it is so cold out here," "we're in for a bad winter." Now you've seen their face and could identify them in a line-up; you lose appeal as a target.

11) If someone is coming toward you, hold out your hands in front of you and yell STOP or STAY BACK ! Most of the rapists this man talked to said they'd leave a woman alone if she yelled or showed that she would not be afraid to fight back. Again, they are looking for an EASY target.

12) If you carry pepper spray (this instructor was a huge advocate of it and carries it with him wherever he goes), yell I HAVE PEPPER SPRAY and holding it out will be a deterrent.

13) If someone grabs you, you can't beat them with strength but you can by outsmarting them. If you are grabbed around the waist from behind, pinch the attacker either under the arm (between the elbow and armpit) OR in the upper inner thigh VERY VERY HARD. One woman in a class this guy taught told him she used the underarm pinch on a guy who was trying to date rape her and was so upset she broke through the skin and tore out muscle strands - the guy needed stitches. Try pinching yourself in those places as hard as you can stand it - it hurts..

14) After the initial hit, always GO for the GROIN. I know from a particularly unfortunate experience that if you slap a guy's parts it is extremely painful. You might think that you'll anger the guy and make him want to hurt you more, but the thing these rapists told our instructor is that they want a woman who will not cause a lot of trouble. Start causing trouble and he's out of there.

15) When the guy puts his hands up to you, grab his first two fingers and bend them back as far as possible with as much pressure pushing down on them as possible. The instructor did it to me without using much pressure, and I ended up on my knees and both knuckles cracked audibly.

16) Of course the things we always hear still apply Always be aware of your surroundings, take someone with you if you can and if you see any odd behavior, don't dismiss it, go with your instincts!!!

You may feel a little silly at the time, but you'd feel much worse if the guy really was trouble.

1. Tip from Tae Kwon Do: The elbow is the strongest point on your body. If you are close enough to use it, do!

2. Learned this from a tourist guide in New Orleans. If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you....chances are that he is more interested in your wallet and/or
purse than you, and he will go for the wallet/purse. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!

3. If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car, kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like crazy. The driver won't see you, but everybody else will. This has saved lives.

4.Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping, eating, working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or making a list, etc.) DON'T DO THIS! The predator will be watching you, and this is the
perfect opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side, put a gun to your head, and tell you where to go. AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR, LOCK THE DOORS AND LEAVE.

a. If someone is in the car with a gun to your head DO NOT DRIVE OFF, repeat: DO NOT DRIVE OFF! Instead gun the engine and speed into anything, wrecking the car. Your Air Bag will save you. If the person is in the back seat they will get the worst of it. As soon as the car crashes bail out and run. It is better than having them find your body in a remote location.

5.. A few notes about getting into your car in a parking lot or parking garage:

A.) Be aware: look around you, look into your car, at the passenger side floor, and in the back seat.

B.) If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars.


C.) Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle, and the passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a guard/policeman to walk you back out.

IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (And better paranoid than dead.)

6. ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot. This is especially true at NIGHT!)

7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times. And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN, preferably in a zigzag pattern!

8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP! It may get you raped or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well-educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked "for help" into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim.

These suggestions are all great, but I say we start by throwing all their worthless butts OUT of this country!!!!!

I used to live in the Silverlake area in California. This area is a mix between young hip american artsy types and illegal aliens. For the most part the artist types are liberal's who think they should accept everyone regardless of the damage these illegal's do. I now live in a different area of town. I just started to see illegals selling fruit on a nice clean residential street!! I called the police twice and I watched from my car when the police car came by and told the illegal to move on. He pretended to pack his stuff and then continued to stay there. I got out of my car and asked the guy if he had some sort of business license or if he was an illegal. I started yelling to the oncoming traffic to never buy from this person, that he might have hepatitis or another disease. I also asked him if he paid any taxes on his sales. He just looked at me like he didn't understand me. I told him that we do not want him here. I started yelling that I would call ICE. He then packed up and left! I'm not gonna keep my opinions silent anymore! ENOUGH!!

Originally Posted by MontereySherry

I have always considered myself an independent woman. Being a single parent for 20 years I learned to be independent. I traveled all over California feeling safe. But now I find myself becoming a shut in.

I find where I used to love to shop, I now do as little as possible. Children are allowed to run wild shouting in foreign languages. I feel like I am in a foreign country, so I go home.

I went to a birthday party at the local tavern the other night and five illegal immigrants came in and true to their machismo culture of Mexico they leered and started insulting the young woman. So I went home.

The weather was beautiful so I decided to work in my yard the other day. Two missonaries from Mexico approached me. I watched groups of immigrants walking down the street all the while leering at me. So I went in the house.

Now I have planned to drive to San Diego to visit my daughter whose husband is stationed there and I find myself dreading it because I am afraid for the first time to make the trip. I find I only feel safe in my house.

This is just plain wrong. How many of us feel this way? Who cares?

Get a backbone. The day someone dictates the way I feel, will be the day I check out of life.

A comment on Aprils article is a good reason for carrying a concealed weapon. I know many people, mostly women, do not like guns and have an aversion to them, but if you buy one, take training and learn how to handle one, you can and will feel safer.