Results 1 to 5 of 5

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

  1. #1
    Super Moderator Newmexican's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Heart of Dixie
    Posts
    36,012

    The Mexican Caste System

    This is what the Mexican illegals are a accustomed to yet they come here whining "racism" to get away with their crimes. Illegal entry is just the beginning of the crime spree necessary to stay here. JMO

    The Mexican Caste System

    10
    By Fulano de Tal,
    November 4, 2011

    Colonial Mexico had a legal racial caste system that was very complex and detailed. It was a legal caste system, imposed by the Spanish government, and ones caste determined how high in society one could go. The caste system defined three main categories of humans, and then further broke that down into 16 distinct racial subcategories. In fact, the Spanish were so obsessed with race, that they even had the equivalent of posters commissioned by artists to describe the 16 official racial mixtures. Hundreds of these paintings survive to this day.

    The three main races were: Peninsulares, who were Europeans, Native Indians, and African Negros.

    Peninsulares were further broken down between Gauchapines, who were European born whites and Criollos, who were born in the New World.

    Mestizos were mixed blood Spanish-Indian. The term was early on associated with illegitimacy because in the generations after the Conquest, mixed-race children born in wedlock were assigned either a simple Indian or Spanish identity, depending on which culture they were raised in.

    Mulattos were mixed blood Spanish-Negro.

    There were many terms, like the ones below, used to describe people with varying degrees of racial mixture.

    Castizos were people with one Mestizo parent and one Spanish parent. Three parts Spanish, one part Indian.

    Cholos were persons with one Indian parent and one Mestizo parent. Three parts Indian and one part Spanish.

    Morisco, a person with Mulatto and Spanish parents. Three parts Spanish, one part Negro.

    Albino, a person with Morisco and Spanish parents. Seven parts Spanish, one part Negro.

    Zambo, a person with Indian and Negro parents.

    Chino, a person with Mulatto and Indian parents. One part Spanish, one part Negro, two parts Indian.

    Everyone who was not a Guachapine was not only socially inferior but legally inferior as well. At baptism, one was assigned to a caste for life by the priest. Since the caste was based on race one could not “move up” to a better caste. So there was literally no way to improve one’s lot. You, and your children if you didn't manage to marry someone of a better caste, were fated to live a very harsh life if you were Indian or Negro and an inferior life if Criollo, Mestizo, or Mulatto.

    The caste system was abolished when Mexico became independent from Spain in 1821, well at least it was abolished on paper. But that is another story.

    http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblog...caste-system/#

  2. #2
    Super Moderator Newmexican's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Heart of Dixie
    Posts
    36,012
    Race Relations in Mexico: The Color Hierarchy

    Mexican society still shows traces of the racial and ethnic caste system that was instituted by the Spanish during the colonial period.
    KEY POINTS[ edit ]




      • With regards to Mexican population groups, processes of identity formation and social stratification can be analyzed both in terms of race and of ethnicity. This is because definitions of each depend upon biological and socio-cultural traits.
      • The large majority of Mexicans can be classified as "mestizos," meaning that they neither identify fully with anyindigenous culture nor with a European heritage. Rather, they identify as having cultural traits and heritage that combine elements from indigenous and European traditions.
      • Mexican officials intentionally spread a racial ideology, known as mestizaje, that encouraged miscegenationbetween European and indigenous people. This was intended to distribute European descent throughout the population and create a new mestizo national identity.



    TERMS[ edit ]


    • Caste Systeman elaborate and complex social system that combines some or all elements of endogamy, hereditary transmission of occupation, social class, social identity, hierarchy, exclusion and power
    • miscegenationthe mixing or blending of race in marriage or breeding; interracial marriage
    • indigenousnative to a land or region, especially before an intrusion


    EXAMPLES[ edit ]



      • In Mexico, indigenous groups are formally defined as people that speak one of 62 officially recognized indigenous languages. While indigeneity is associated with Native American biological descent, it is defined culturally rather than genetically.
      • Indigenous groups are formally defined in Mexico as groups that speak one of sixty-two officially recognized indigenous languages; while indigeneity is associated with Native American biological descent, it is defined culturally rather than genetically.



    Race Relations in Mexico

    Generally speaking, Mexican ethnic and racial relations can be arranged on an axis between two extremes, European and Native American heritage. This division is a remnant of the colonial Spanish caste system, which categorized individuals according to their perceived level of biological mixture between these two groups. Along this axis, a color hierarchy emerged that persists in importance today. In this hierarchy, those who are viewed as being more European, or "white," are generally endowed with higher social status. Those who are viewed as being more "indigenous," or "dark," are typically given less social prestige.

    The color hierarchy is utilized for more than simply classifying people based on their phenotypical traits, or physical appearance. It is also a way to racialize socio-cultural traits. For example, because upward social mobility is generally correlated with "whitening," if persons with indigenous biological and cultural roots rise to positions of power and prestige, they tend to be viewed as more "white" than if they belonged to a lower social class.

    The racial hierarchy is complicated by the presence of considerable numbers of people with partly African and Asian heritage. Nonetheless, these groups are often categorized on the color hierarchy somewhere between indigenous and European.

    Indigenous Groups
    As a classifier, indigenous identity was constructed by the dominant European and Mestizo majority and imposed upon indigenous people as a pejorative. This identity was associated with a lack of assimilation into modern Mexico. This identity therefore became socially stigmatizing, and contrary to social expectations and ideals. In early post-revolutionary Mexico, cultural policies were paternalistic towards indigenous people, and contained efforts to completely assimilate indigenous peoples into Mestizo culture.

    The category of "indigena" (indigenous) can be defined according to linguistic criteria as people who speak one of Mexico's 62 indigenous languages. This categorization method is used by the National Mexican Institute of Statistics. Conversely, indigenous identity can also be defined broadly to include all persons who self-identify as having an indigenous cultural background, whether or not they speak an indigenous language.

    Blancos/Güeros
    Mexicans of European descent, often called "blancos" ("whites") or "güeros" in Mexican Spanish, have light skin and predominantly European features. These people are typically associated with Mexico's upper and middle socioeconomic classes. Because "Mestizos" are also people with varying amounts of European ancestry, the differentiation between "mestizos" and "blancos" is often based on socio-cultural rather than biological boundaries.

    Europeans began arriving to Mexico after the Spanish conquest of the Aztec Empire. The descendants of the conquistadors, along with new arrivals from Spain, formed a new elite class of the population. Intermixing eventually produced a Mestizo group that would become the nation's demographic majority by the time of Independence. That being said, during this time, power remained firmly in the hands of the elite, called "criollo. "

    Today, most blancos are still associated with the Spanish colonial order. Although some would not be considered "white" by U.S. or European standards, one way blancos distinguish themselves is by keeping separate from the Mestizo and other classes in Mexico. In popular conception, blancos are closely associated with ideas of modernity, which supposedly means that they are the closest culturally to Americans and Europeans (both are idealized as white).

    Mestizos

    The large majority of Mexicans are classified as "mestizos," meaning that they neither identify fully with any indigenous culture nor with a particular non-Mexican heritage. Instead, they identify as having cultural traits and heritage that combine elements from indigenous and European traditions. By the deliberate efforts of post-revolutionary governments, the "mestizo identity" was constructed as the basis of the modern Mexican national identity, through a process of cultural synthesis referred to as mestizaje.

    The term "mestizo" is not widely used in Mexican society today, and it has been dropped as a category in population censuses. That being said, it is still used in social and cultural studies when referring to the non-indigenous part of the Mexican population. The word has somewhat pejorative colloquial connotations. Most people who would be defined as mestizos in the sociological literature would probably self-identify simply as Mexicans. In addition, people will self-identify as "gente de razón" ("people of reason"), in contrast to "gente de costumbre" ("people of tradition"), thus further differentiating themselves from the status of indigeneity, which is considered superstitious and backward.

    The Process of "Mestizaje"
    In the Mexican post-revolutionary period, mestizaje was a racial ideology that combined ideologies of white superiority with the social reality of a postcolonial, multiracial setting. It promoted the use of planned miscegenation (the mixing of racial groups through reproduction) as a eugenic strategy to improve the overall quality of the population. In the logic of "mestizaje," the distribution of white genetic material throughout the population would improve citizens.
    Map of Indigenous Languages in Mexico

    This map shows the regions where there are over 100,000 speakers of particular indigenous languages. These areas are concentrated in the poorer southern states. Thus, the areas that have not been heavily economically modernized have not been as significantly affected by ethnic mestizaje.


    Spanish Caste System in Mexico

    This artist's rendering of the Spanish racial/ethnic caste system imposed in Mexico during the colonial period illustrates the hierarchy from white Europeans to dark-skinned Native Americans or indigenous people.


    Source: Boundless. “Race Relations in Mexico: The Color Hierarchy.” Boundless Sociology. Boundless, 21 Jul. 2015. Retrieved 31 Aug. 2015 from https://www.boundless.com/sociology/...chy-419-10396/

  3. #3
    Senior Member artclam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    728
    This caste system is the reason so many poor Mexicans are coming to the USA. The upper class wants them to go because it relieves them of the problem of caring for the poor and because once in the USA they will be sending dollars back to Mexico which will end up being spent at the businesses owned by the upper class. Those who support illegal immigration are, in effect, supporting the 0.1% richest Mexicans.

  4. #4
    Super Moderator Newmexican's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Heart of Dixie
    Posts
    36,012
    Quote Originally Posted by artclam View Post
    This caste system is the reason so many poor Mexicans are coming to the USA. The upper class wants them to go because it relieves them of the problem of caring for the poor and because once in the USA they will be sending dollars back to Mexico which will end up being spent at the businesses owned by the upper class. Those who support illegal immigration are, in effect, supporting the 0.1% richest Mexicans.
    Well said.

  5. #5
    Administrator Jean's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    California
    Posts
    65,443
    Quote Originally Posted by Newmexican View Post
    Well said.
    Ditto that, right on!
    Support our FIGHT AGAINST illegal immigration & Amnesty by joining our E-mail Alerts at https://eepurl.com/cktGTn

Similar Threads

  1. Mexican drug cartels exploit asylum system by claiming ‘credible fear’
    By Jean in forum illegal immigration News Stories & Reports
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 11-22-2013, 01:18 AM
  2. Asylum Crisis as Mexican Nationals Overwhelm System
    By Jean in forum illegal immigration News Stories & Reports
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-13-2013, 03:14 PM
  3. New Underground System Monitors US-Mexican Border
    By Jean in forum illegal immigration News Stories & Reports
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-22-2010, 11:48 PM
  4. caste football
    By agrneydgrl in forum Other Topics News and Issues
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 05-01-2010, 01:09 AM
  5. State Department funds Mexican wiretap system
    By Jean in forum illegal immigration News Stories & Reports
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-30-2007, 10:40 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •