Thread: Mexico's hand in illegal immigration

Mexico's hand in illegal immigration
,Wed Jun 20, 4:00 AM ET
The Senate takes up "comprehensive" immigration reform again this week. But the meat's still missing in this burrito. As Mexico's ambassador to Washington warns, even the "rosiest, peachiest" reform in the US won't end the flow of poor migrants. Reform must also take place in Mexico.And begun it has.
For the past seven months, Mexico has been at war with itself, literally. A new president, Felipe Calderón, has dispatched 24,000 troops into battle with the most corrosive influence in Mexico's economy: powerful drug cartels.
These violent syndicates, which mainly transport drugs into the US, have exploded in the past decade. They've escalated crime and political corruption, hindering creation of well-paying jobs for would-be migrants. At election time, they provide cash for many campaigns.
This domestic war, which resembles the Iraq war in tactics and killing rates, was Mr. Calderón's opening gambit for wholesale reform. It is widely popular but faces an uncertain future. The cartels are fighting back with gruesome murders. And the Army, one of the few respected institutions in Mexico, is not good at policing, a task it must do to root out local drug networks. Some of its elite soldiers have joined the cartels.Still, the war gives Calderón enough public support to conduct a quiet and pragmatic battle with the ruling opposition in the legislature. In March, he was able to win reform of state pensions. This week, he will propose tax hikes to reduce the government's risky reliance on oil-export revenues. And he was helped this month by a Supreme Court ruling that struck a blow at the broadcasting giant Televisa, one of many monopolies controlled by powerful, vested interests.
Opening up these key parts of the economy – telecommunications, oil, cement, and electricity – to fair competition under the law would be Calderón's greatest legacy. It would build on two other major reforms: the opening of Mexico's markets since the mid-1990s through NAFTA and the establishment of real democracy with the end of one-party rule in 2000.
Any reforms would do little to stem migration, however, unless they reach the poorest regions in the south, such as Chiapas and Michoacán. These areas are the main source of migrants to the US, and a better economy there would help keep valuable workers in Mexico. Among his reforms, Calderón has offered help to young entrepreneurs and launched job-training programs.How can the US help? For one, effective border enforcement would keep more Mexicans in Mexico where they can contribute to the economy. The US can also better crack down on the flow of arms to Mexico's cartels and the flow of drugs into the US.
Mexico doesn't require a mini-Marshall plan from the US, as some suggest – the kind that Colombia has received to fight off its drug cartels. That $5 billion project entailed the use of American troops to help the war against Colombian rebels. Mexico hardly needs GIs on its soil. And as one of the world's 15 largest economies and an oil exporter, it doesn't need money – just reform.The US Congress should see its immigration reform in the larger picture of Mexico's needs. The ultimate solution truly lies south of the border.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20070620/cm ... hALQu7e8UF

MEXICO is the wastebin of South America and everyone knows it.
The are exceedingly corrupt and mismanaged.

Here is how Mexico deals with reform.

What better way to get rid of tens of millions of low-skilled, social needy individuals. Send them to America, and then lobby on their behalf. Infiltrate political environs and facililate them being here.

1. Mexico saves BILLIONS by not having to supply any sort of social programs to its poor.

2. REDUCES crime by sending undesirables here.
3. RECIEVES BILLIONS each year from illegals sending money home.
4. Supplying dual citizenship whereby influencing American politics by proxy.

The list goes on and on......

Listen, Mexico is a weak country. They are practically getting their arsses handed to them by the drug cartels.

Why Mexicans feel so proud of their country is beyond me..... They shi*t on the poor, rig elections, supply NO social help and then send them off and all the while patting them on the head....

Originally Posted by BrightNail

MEXICO is the wastebin of South America and everyone knows it.
The are exceedingly corrupt and mismanaged.

Here is how Mexico deals with reform.

What better way to get rid of tens of millions of low-skilled, social needy individuals. Send them to America, and then lobby on their behalf. Infiltrate political environs and facililate them being here.

1. Mexico saves BILLIONS by not having to supply any sort of social programs to its poor.

2. REDUCES crime by sending undesirables here.
3. RECIEVES BILLIONS each year from illegals sending money home.
4. Supplying dual citizenship whereby influencing American politics by proxy.

The list goes on and on......

Listen, Mexico is a weak country. They are practically getting their arsses handed to them by the drug cartels.

Why Mexicans feel so proud of their country is beyond me..... They shi*t on the poor, rig elections, supply NO social help and then send them off and all the while patting them on the head....

That seems to the the culture many of the pro-illegal crowd wants for America ------

I read somewhere that 80% of the crystal meth in the US comes across the US-Mexico border. Has anyone else heard/read this?

I'm wondering how much money our government is giving Mexico in the form of "aid" of one kind or another. We give money to every other 3rd world country, so I'm supposing $$ goes to Mexico as well. If that is the case, why couldn't it be part of the deal that financial contribution be used to build companies IN MEXICO offering jobs to the people? I have a feeling that our tax dollars are not only going for "services" for illegals in the US--but also straight into the pockets of corrupt Mexican politicians.

Originally Posted by Sam-I-am

I read somewhere that 80% of the crystal meth in the US comes across the US-Mexico border. Has anyone else heard/read this?

Every 24 hours, roughly 100,000,000 doses of hard drugs are sold on America's streets.

That is enough for every adult to get one hit (roughly).

In short, enough drugs — even more so when you include legal drugs (Prozac, Xanax, etc) — are pouring into America to bedrug everyone.


Now we understand America's apathy....

Originally Posted by dyehard39

Mexico's hand in illegal immigration
,Wed Jun 20, 4:00 AM ET
The Senate takes up "comprehensive" immigration reform again this week. But the meat's still missing in this burrito. As Mexico's ambassador to Washington warns, even the "rosiest, peachiest" reform in the US won't end the flow of poor migrants. Reform must also take place in Mexico.And begun it has.
For the past seven months, Mexico has been at war with itself, literally. A new president, Felipe Calderón, has dispatched 24,000 troops into battle with the most corrosive influence in Mexico's economy: powerful drug cartels.
These violent syndicates, which mainly transport drugs into the US, have exploded in the past decade. They've escalated crime and political corruption, hindering creation of well-paying jobs for would-be migrants. At election time, they provide cash for many campaigns.
This domestic war, which resembles the Iraq war in tactics and killing rates, was Mr. Calderón's opening gambit for wholesale reform. It is widely popular but faces an uncertain future. The cartels are fighting back with gruesome murders. And the Army, one of the few respected institutions in Mexico, is not good at policing, a task it must do to root out local drug networks. Some of its elite soldiers have joined the cartels.Still, the war gives Calderón enough public support to conduct a quiet and pragmatic battle with the ruling opposition in the legislature. In March, he was able to win reform of state pensions. This week, he will propose tax hikes to reduce the government's risky reliance on oil-export revenues. And he was helped this month by a Supreme Court ruling that struck a blow at the broadcasting giant Televisa, one of many monopolies controlled by powerful, vested interests.
Opening up these key parts of the economy – telecommunications, oil, cement, and electricity – to fair competition under the law would be Calderón's greatest legacy. It would build on two other major reforms: the opening of Mexico's markets since the mid-1990s through NAFTA and the establishment of real democracy with the end of one-party rule in 2000.
Any reforms would do little to stem migration, however, unless they reach the poorest regions in the south, such as Chiapas and Michoacán. These areas are the main source of migrants to the US, and a better economy there would help keep valuable workers in Mexico. Among his reforms, Calderón has offered help to young entrepreneurs and launched job-training programs.How can the US help? For one, effective border enforcement would keep more Mexicans in Mexico where they can contribute to the economy. The US can also better crack down on the flow of arms to Mexico's cartels and the flow of drugs into the US.
Mexico doesn't require a mini-Marshall plan from the US, as some suggest – the kind that Colombia has received to fight off its drug cartels. That $5 billion project entailed the use of American troops to help the war against Colombian rebels. Mexico hardly needs GIs on its soil. And as one of the world's 15 largest economies and an oil exporter, it doesn't need money – just reform.The US Congress should see its immigration reform in the larger picture of Mexico's needs. The ultimate solution truly lies south of the border.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20070620/cm ... hALQu7e8UF

Mexico DOES need major new investments to keep the OIL infrastructure from collapsing. The problem is that too many people have a stake in keeping the books of PEMEX closed to outsiders... too many of them are on the take; opening up the books to new/foreign investors would expose them.....
http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=F ... ic&t=73747

The Mex Ambassador (Arturo Sarukhan) to the US has stated bluntly that REFORM MUST BE BEGIN IN MEXICO....

The corrupt Mexican regime and the extremely wealthy Mexican elite will refuse to truly reform as long as they can export their poverty to the U.S. and have US middle class taxpayers pay for this. It will take decades for Mexico to reform IF the will was really there, which I doubt. That's why I'm very cynical when I read these stories. All the more reason to build double-layered fences for the previously authorized 854 miles and then extend this further AND vigorously go after US employers who employ illegals AND end remittances OR tax them at a very high rate AND cut off all non-emergency benefits to illegals.

The last I read it 69 million dollars.

http://www.mexidata.info/id1227.html

Originally Posted by DJ

I'm wondering how much money our government is giving Mexico in the form of "aid" of one kind or another. We give money to every other 3rd world country, so I'm supposing $$ goes to Mexico as well. If that is the case, why couldn't it be part of the deal that financial contribution be used to build companies IN MEXICO offering jobs to the people? I have a feeling that our tax dollars are not only going for "services" for illegals in the US--but also straight into the pockets of corrupt Mexican politicians.