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    Mike Pence 2014: I got a fever and the only prescription is more TPP

    Mike Pence 2014: I got a fever and the only prescription is more TPP

    POSTED AT 4:01 PM ON JULY 14, 2016 BY ALLAHPUNDIT


    “The moment Trump chooses his vice presidential candidate,” wrote super-fan Ann Coulter last week, “every person in the media will be handed a personalized crowbar to pry daylight between Trump his nominee.” That’s why, she argued, it’s important for Trump not to pick a “typical Republican.” The prying will simply be too easy. Trump should pick a nationalist who’ll defend his initiatives with gusto, not because he’s suddenly accepted a job that requires him to.

    Let the prying begin!


    That’s not a one-off thing. Pence is on the ticket because he’s a dogmatic conservative, designed to make dogmatic conservative voters feel more comfortable with Trump, but dogmatic conservatism means support for free trade. Pence has supported it for a long, long time:

    Pence backed trade agreements with Colombia, South Korea, Panama, Peru, Oman, Chile and Singapore during his House tenure from 2001 through 2012. He voted for the Central American Free Trade Agreement, or CAFTA.

    He voted to keep the United States in the World Trade Organization and to maintain permanent normal trade relations with China, the country Trump repeatedly criticizes for unfair trade practices and threatens with tariffs to boost U.S. job creation.

    Pence also has publicly supported the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement of Pacific Rim nations, an agreement negotiated by the Obama administration which Trump opposes and has likened to rape.

    Hey, you can’t expect a president and VP to agree on everything. It’s perfectly normal that a trade deal the VP might see as crucial to security is viewed by the president as, uh, rape.

    Hopefully they’ll get their story straight before the big “60 Minutes” interview on Sunday night. Oh, and on this too:


    They’ve always been in sync on touchback amnesty so they’ve got that going for them at least.

    In fairness to Trump, he’s doing the prudent thing for once with the biggest decision of his campaign in choosing a “safe” candidate like Pence. There’s modest upside to it, as it could help a bit with party unity (although probably only a bit), but there’s virtually no downside to it. Pence won’t upstage Trump, as Newt and Christie might have, and he’s so poorly known among the wider electorate that he does no harm. Picking him is the closest thing to picking no VP at all, which I’m sure would have been Trump’s preference. Look at it this way: How many dogmatic conservatives with plenty of experience on the Hill and some name recognition among conservative activists were out there and amenable to joining the ticket? Most full-spectrum conservatives like Mike Lee and Ted Cruz disdain Trump and wouldn’t want to risk their future prospects by joining forces with him. Pence was perfectly positioned in that he had the conservative cred Trump wanted and was precariously positioned via his gubernatorial race to make him open to becoming VP. Trump made the safe play, no doubt at Paul Manafort’s urging. It’s uncharacteristically boring of him, but it’s not necessarily wrong.


    Except, of course, to the extent that there’s a total mismatch between nationalism and conservatism on some of Trump’s core issues, like trade.


    Oh well. Something for everyone on this year’s ticket! Here’s the next vice president of the United States singing songs of love about NAFTA as a young congressman in 2001 (see video at link).


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    Pence is the Anti-Trump and one of the worst choices possible. Pence is for everything Trump is against. A horrible, horrible decision.
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    It will be good to hear Governor Pence this evening on Sean Hannity at 10 pm EST and both Donald Trump and Mike Pence on 60 Minutes this weekend. I am sure that questions will be asked about immigration and trade.

    Donald Trump's cabinet picks will be important. Hopefully Mr. Trump and other strong voices such as Senator Sessions, Stephen Miller, Kris Kobach, etc. and the American people will influence Governor Pence's thinking going forward. Most important is Donald Trump following through on his promises to the American people.
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    July 15, 2016, 02:19 pm

    Trump tried to back off Pence pick: report

    By Mark Hensch




    Donald Trump considered abandoning Indiana Gov. Mike Pence as his running mate late Thursday night after offering him the job, CNN's Dana Bash reported Friday:

    Scoop: @realDonaldTrump was so unsure about @mike_pence that around midnight last night he asked top aides if he could get out of it
    — Dana Bash (@DanaBashCNN) July 15, 2016

    Bash elaborated on her report Friday on CNN television.

    “Around midnight last night ... Donald Trump was on the phone with senior advisors trying to get out of this,” she said.“This is after he offered the job to Mike Pence, and they flew him to New York, and they had him sitting in a hotel room in Manhattan thinking he is going to be the vice presidential pick and he just basically dumped his own plans for reelection in Indiana as governor,” Bash added.

    “And so what this tells us is that this was so out of Donald Trump’s comfort zone. He does not operate like this.”
    Trump was leaning toward New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie while his top aides were beating the drum for Pence, the report said.

    “He operates with the gut, and by all accounts if you were following the gut, he would have gone with Chris Christie,” Bash said. "Everybody around him in the campaign apparatus had been making these moves to make it so Mike Pence would be his running mate.

    “Flying him to New York. Making it and leaking it to the press that he was going to be making the call. Telling people in and around the Cleveland convention, especially where conservatives are gathered, ‘don’t worry, wink, wink, nod, nod, it is Mike Pence.’”

    NBC News reporter Kelly O’Donnell confirmed Bash’s report.
    Sources tell me @realDonaldTrump was on phone till midnight making calls, asking if he could change course on VP pick
    — Kelly O'Donnell (@KellyO) July 15, 2016
    Jason Miller, senior communications adviser for Trump’s campaign, on Friday said Bash’s account is wrong.
    This is completely false. Zero truth to it. https://t.co/xC8QAV17W3
    — Jason Miller (@JasonMillerinDC) July 15, 2016
    Trump on Friday announced Pence as his running mate, ending months of speculation over who the billionaire would select.

    On late Thursday, Trump had said he had not made “a final, final decision” between Christie, Pence and former Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.).

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...-pick?AID=7236

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    Excerpt:

    On late Thursday, Trump had said he had not made “a final, final decision” between Christie, Pence and former Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.).
    I don't know what to think of someone who has used the issues of illegal immigration and border security to win over Republicans, yet goes on to eliminate Sen. Sessions in favor of folks like Pence, Gingrich, and Christie. It just doesn't make any sense, especially since immigration/border security was his mantle piece.

    After hearing Pence is the man, I will admit to feeling a little used and abused. Of course most folks on here know Trump was not my first choice, however, I will vote for him since my hand has been forced. IMO, Trump has never really been crystal clear on a lot of issues, so why should his choice of Pence surprise me? Just saying ......

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    It may be that Senator Sessions and Donald Trump decided that Senator Sessions could best serve the nation by staying in the Senate to help usher through and fight for legislation or maybe there is another position for him to serve. I believe that Trump has great respect for what Senator Sessions thinks and that he trusts him. He did meet with him in the past day or two so Trump may have discussed it with him again as far as VP and also question him about Governor Pence.

    NumbersUSA was mentioned as issuing a statement on Governor Pence. It is positive for the most part and as MW posted earlier "touchback amnesty" was a suggested idea that did not become legislation.

    Read Roy Beck's statement here:

    https://www.numbersusa.com/blog/trum...diana-governor
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