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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie
    Bren,

    That information came from betterimmigration.

    To me, it looks like they just don't have the official position yet so they marked it as None.

    Dixie
    Oh, OK. Thanks.
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    At any rate once we get through the primaries
    they will all have to address the issue

    And its going to be a very very hard sell for the dems who as we
    all know are for total amnesty

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    The goal as expressed by such movement leaders NumbersUSA's Roy Beck and the Center for Immigration Studies' Mark Krikorian is that there be steadily declining numbers of illegal aliens and that half the illegal aliens here now be living (not just visiting) in their home countries in five years or the end of the next Presidential administration.


    This process of voluntary repatriation attrition through enforcement will not happen immediately it will first be preceeded by their loss of jobs, drivers licenses and public benefits.


    A significant minority of the adult illegal aliens here are already eligible for adjustment to legal status under existing programs. They, their families and employers have not all bothered to file. Some will return to their home countries rather than use them some will go through the process.


    Romney is aware of these facts and has expressed them at times more articulately than he did on Russert.



    I personally have the belief that the repatriation process can be made more effective if the immigrants legal and other wise can be educated to use their money invest in their home countries rather than bring their people here without our authorization.
    I support enforcement and see its lack as bad for the 3rd World as well. Remittances are now mostly spent on consumption not production assets. Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)

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    Richard

    I like you , your a smart guy and understand the issue from a
    real world perspective

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    The goal as expressed by such movement leaders NumbersUSA's Roy Beck and the Center for Immigration Studies' Mark Krikorian is that there be steadily declining numbers of illegal aliens and that half the illegal aliens here now be living (not just visiting) in their home countries in five years or the end of the next Presidential administration.


    This process of voluntary repatriation attrition through enforcement will not happen immediately it will first be preceeded by their loss of jobs, drivers licenses and public benefits.


    A significant minority of the adult illegal aliens here are already eligible for adjustment to legal status under existing programs. They, their families and employers have not all bothered to file. Some will return to their home countries rather than use them some will go through the process.


    Romney is aware of these facts and has expressed them at times more articulately than he did on Russert.



    I personally have the belief that the repatriation process can be made more effective if the immigrants legal and other wise can be educated to use their money invest in their home countries rather than bring their people here without our authorization.
    The illegals are leaving Oklahoma by the thousands!!----and Arizona's new laws go into effect today, so they are also leaving Arizona.

    The problem is----not all are going back to their own countries, they are moving to sanctuary cities/states.

    Unless those cities/states get tough----they are going to be destroyed by the illegals who are heading their way!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bren4824
    Here you are.......I found them for you!!

    Ending the Tide of Illegal Immigration
    The number of illegal immigrants in the U.S. has exploded in the last decade from 3 million to over 12 million. We must secure the border, implement an enforceable employer verification system, punish sanctuary cities and reject amnesty if we are to restore Americans’ faith in the rule of law.

    http://www.mittromney.com/Issues/immigration
    ALL of us know that the number of illegal aliens is at least DOUBLE that 12 million figure, and probably TRIPLE.

    If you can trust him to use a 'closer to correct' figure than one provided him by the National Council of La Raza, you can't trust him to make them GO HOME.

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    Pine

    A new estimate puts them at 38 million


    Keep in mind also that Tenn has a law that went into effect
    today just like the one in Arizona

    There are lots that are going back to Mexico or wherever but a large
    amount will go to other sanctuary areas in the US

    This country is becoming Balkanized and until we get a national policy
    of 0 tolerance the problem really won't improve

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    Bren , meet Pinestraw

    Pinestraw , meet Bren

    You are both on the same side weather you know it or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinestrawGuys
    Quote Originally Posted by Bren4824
    Here you are.......I found them for you!!

    Ending the Tide of Illegal Immigration
    The number of illegal immigrants in the U.S. has exploded in the last decade from 3 million to over 12 million. We must secure the border, implement an enforceable employer verification system, punish sanctuary cities and reject amnesty if we are to restore Americans’ faith in the rule of law.

    http://www.mittromney.com/Issues/immigration
    ALL of us know that the number of illegal aliens is at least DOUBLE that 12 million figure, and probably TRIPLE.

    If you can trust him to use a 'closer to correct' figure than one provided him by the National Council of La Raza, you can't trust him to make them GO HOME.
    He said "over 12 million" NOT 12 million.
    "We call things racism just to get attention. We reduce complicated problems to racism, not because it is racism, but because it works." --- Alfredo Gutierrez, political consultant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bren4824
    Quote Originally Posted by PinestrawGuys
    Quote Originally Posted by Bren4824
    Here you are.......I found them for you!!

    Ending the Tide of Illegal Immigration
    The number of illegal immigrants in the U.S. has exploded in the last decade from 3 million to over 12 million. We must secure the border, implement an enforceable employer verification system, punish sanctuary cities and reject amnesty if we are to restore Americans’ faith in the rule of law.

    http://www.mittromney.com/Issues/immigration
    ALL of us know that the number of illegal aliens is at least DOUBLE that 12 million figure, and probably TRIPLE.

    If you can trust him to use a 'closer to correct' figure than one provided him by the National Council of La Raza, you can't trust him to make them GO HOME.
    He said "over 12 million" NOT 12 million.
    Yeah, OK...

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