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    Well, I just read it and the only wiggle room is in section m.

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    Article 5: Consular Functions

    Consular functions consist in:

    (a) protecting in the receiving State the interests of the sending State and of its nationals, both individuals and bodies corporate, within the limits permitted by international law;

    (b) furthering the development of commercial, economic, cultural and scientific relations between the sending State and the receiving State and otherwise promoting friendly relations between them in accordance with the provisions of the present Convention;

    (c) ascertaining by all lawful means conditions and developments in the commercial, economic, cultural and scientific life of the receiving State, reporting thereon to the Government of the sending State and giving information to persons interested;

    (d) issuing passports and travel documents to nationals of the sending State, and visas or appropriate documents to persons wishing to travel to the sending State;

    (e) helping and assisting nationals, both individuals and bodies corporate, of the sending State;

    (f) acting as notary and civil registrar and in capacities of a similar kind, and performing certain functions of an administrative nature, provided that there is nothing contrary thereto in the laws and regulations of the receiving State;

    (g) safeguarding the interests of nationals, both individuals and bodies corporate, of the sending State in cases of succession mortis causa in the territory of the receiving State, in accordance with the laws and regulations of the receiving State;

    (h) safeguarding, within the limits imposed by the laws and regulations of the receiving State, the interests of minors and other persons lacking full capacity who are nationals of the sending State, particularly where any guardianship or trusteeship is required with respect to such persons;

    (i) subject to the practices and procedures obtaining in the receiving State, representing or arranging appropriate representation for nationals of the sending State before the tribunals and other authorities of the receiving State, for the purpose of obtaining, in accordance with the laws and regulations of the receiving State, provisional measures for the preservation of the rights and interests of these nationals, where, because of absence or any other reason, such nationals are unable at the proper time to assume the defence of their rights and interests;

    (j) transmitting judicial and extra-judicial documents or executing letters rogatory or commissions to take evidence for the courts of the sending State in accordance with international agreements in force or, in the absence of such international agreements, in any other manner compatible with the laws and regulations of the receiving State;

    (k) exercising rights of supervision and inspection provided for in the laws and regulations of the sending State in respect of vessels having the nationality of the sending State, and of aircraft registered in that State, and in respect of their crews;

    (l) extending assistance to vessels and aircraft mentioned in sub-paragraph (k) of this Article and to their crews, taking statements regarding the voyage of a vessel, examining and stamping the ship's papers, and, without prejudice to the powers of the authorities of the receiving State, conducting investigations into any incidents which occurred during the voyage, and settling disputes of any kind between the master, the officers and the seamen in so far as this may be authorized by the laws and regulations of the sending State;

    (m) performing any other functions entrusted to a consular post by the sending State which are not prohibited by the laws and regulations of the receiving State or to which no objection is taken by the receiving State or which are referred to in the inter-national agreements in force between the sending State and the receiving State.

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    (m) performing any other functions entrusted to a consular post by the sending State which are not prohibited by the laws and regulations of the receiving State or to which no objection is taken by the receiving State or which are referred to in the inter-national agreements in force between the sending State and the receiving State.
    ...nice catch, Ken. I think we have an interpretation issue regarding the Geneva Convention. I highly doubt the Geneva Convention's intent was to allow "performing functions" for nationals (dictionary.com: devoted to one's own nation, its interests, etc.) that are in the receiving State ILLEGALY. I suppose the Mexican Consulate has the same position as our business community does...don't ask, don't tell. I don't feel that is an acceptable legal position, though. It could certainly be argued that a country has the means and knowledge to determine if one or more of it's "nationals" is in the receiving State legally or not. Frankly, I think there is more to this story.

    or which are referred to in the inter-national agreements in force between the sending State and the receiving State
    ...just a thought here: We realy don't know ALL the inter-national agreements in place between us and Mexico. And based on Bush and this administration's track record and its appeasement and back door interactions with Mexico, it would not be surprising if some agreements were executed clandestinely. Frankly, I think there is much more to this story.
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    Great letter. I'll be surprised if you just don't get some sort of BS form letter response though.
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