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    Quote Originally Posted by Newmexican View Post
    I agree that we need SCOTUS to rule on this issue.
    Yes.
    BUT no one can make the U.S. Supreme Court rule on anything.
    They decide what they will and will not look into.
    As long as Cruz isn't in 1st place they feel no urgency to look at this issue because if he doesn't get the nomination there is no chance of him getting elected.
    So they will just wait it out for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clinias View Post
    . . . Cruz was born ON Canadian soil, so Canadian law, which disallows dual citizenship, dictates that status of Ted Cruz.
    1. . . . "Every country decides whom it considers to be a citizen. If more than one country recognizes you as a citizen, you have dual citizenship. You do not apply for dual citizenship and there is no related certificate.Canadians are allowed to take foreign citizenship while keeping their Canadian citizenship." . . .

      What is dual citizenship?

      www.cic.gc.ca/.../ans...Department of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship
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    Someone better take a look at Sanders.

    Early life

    Sanders was born in the New York City borough of Brooklyn.

    His father, Eli Sanders, was born on September 19, 1904, in Słopnice, Poland,[20][21] to a Jewish family, and emigrated to the United States in 1921,[22] at the age of seventeen.[20 [23]

    His mother, Dorothy Sanders (née Glassberg), was born in New York City on October 2, 1912,[24][25] to Jewish immigrant parents from Poland and Russia.[26][27]

    Many of Eli's relatives who remained in Poland were killed in the Holocaust.[6][23][25][28]

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    Someone better take a look at Sanders.

    Early life

    Sanders was born in the New York City borough of Brooklyn.

    His father, Eli Sanders, was born on September 19, 1904, in Słopnice, Poland,[20][21] to a Jewish family, and emigrated to the United States in 1921,[22] at the age of seventeen.[20 [23]

    His mother, Dorothy Sanders (née Glassberg), was born in New York City on October 2, 1912,[24][25] to Jewish immigrant parents from Poland and Russia.[26][27]

    Many of Eli's relatives who remained in Poland were killed in the Holocaust.[6][23][25][28]

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    As long as both of Sanders' parents were US citizens when he was born, then he is eligible for the presidency.

    That's how simple it is and how completely corrupt it is to accept anything less. Like Cruz, like Rubio ... and who else? How else is sitting in government here in the US who claim citizenship based on fewer than two parents who were citizens when they were born?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pkskyali View Post
    As long as both of Sanders' parents were US citizens when he was born, then he is eligible for the presidency. . .
    It doesn't say anything about IF or WHEN either of his parents ever became citizens. That's why I said someone better check him out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    /at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years” is a citizen of the United States.
    Reading comprehension issue? *citizen* is not the same as *natural born citizen*. Notice the two extra words? The SCOTUS has ruled numerous times that every word must have an interpretative meaning. That means a citizen is NOT the same as a natural born citizen or the entire natural born part is completely extra useless words. Yes, only 1 US parent makes a citizen (just ask my kids as I'm married to a foreigner0. That however does not make them a US Citizen.

    I say again.... in all the laws and rulings since Constitution and the 1st Congress as you linked it touches the meaning of *natural born*. This means its original meaning is still intact. Then you notice the plural *citizens* in the meaning which means not *one citizen* parent as in the requirements now for simple citizenship but a plurality of TWO parents who are US Citizens.

    Its right there between English Grammar, the 1st Congress, and the SCOTUS. Put the simple 3 piece puzzle together and its beyond a doubt to anyone but liberal progressives who want to sell our country out to foreigners.

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    Any time you have to cite a statute, law, act or the 14th Amendment to confirm someone's citizenship, they are not natural born citizens. Natural born citizen means born of nature through blood and soil, not statutes, laws, acts or the 14th Amendment. Those are citizens by law, not nature. Natural born citizen is born in the US (soil) to 2 US citizens (blood). Very simple.
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    Our justice system DISMISSED all O birther cases because "they did not show HARM/INJURY". The fix was in! Plenty of harm to show now.

    Natural born citizen means born of nature through blood and soil, not statutes, laws, acts or the 14th Amendment. Those are citizens by law, not nature. Natural born citizen is born in the US (soil) to 2 US citizens (blood). Very simple.
    Serving in the military outside of the US is an exception if both parents are US citizens. They are following orders to live elsewhere - Romney does not fit into that category but both parents were US citizens.
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