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    No Joke: Obama Considering Flying Immigrants From Honduras Straight To The U.S.

    No Joke: Obama Considering Flying Immigrants From Honduras Straight To The U.S. So They Don’t Have To Sneak Over Border

    Posted on 25 July, 2014 by clyde


    Hoping to stem the recent surge of migrants at the Southwest border, the Obama administration is considering whether to allow hundreds of minors and young adults from Honduras into the United States without making the dangerous trek through Mexico, according to a draft of the proposal.
    If approved, the plan would direct the government to screen thousands of children and youths in Honduras to see if they can enter the United States as refugees or on emergency humanitarian grounds. It would be the first American refugee effort in a nation reachable by land to the United States, the White House said, putting the violence in Honduras on the level of humanitarian emergencies in Haiti and Vietnam, where such programs have been conducted in the past amid war and major crises.
    Critics of the plan were quick to pounce, saying it appeared to redefine the legal definition of a refugee and would only increase the flow of migration to the United States. Administration officials said they believed the plan could be enacted through executive action, without congressional approval, as long as it did not increase the total number of refugees coming into the country.
    By moving decisions on refugee claims to Honduras, the plan aims to slow the rush of minors crossing into the United States illegally from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala, which has overwhelmed the border this year. More than 45,000 unaccompanied minors from those three nations have arrived since Oct. 1, straining federal resources to the point that some agencies will exhaust their budgets by next month, the secretary of Homeland Security has said.

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    White House Mulls Going Right To Honduras To Import Immigrants... Why force kids to make a dangerous trip through Mexico only to end up as illegal immigrants in the United States when we could go to them, grant them legal status, and send them north to America ourselves? It’s so crazy it just. might. work.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/25/wo...honduras-.html



    To Ease Crisis, U.S. May Vet Young Refugees Inside Honduras
    The plan aims to stem the surge at the border, allowing hundreds of minors and...
    nytimes.com|By Frances Robles and Michael D. Shear

    U.S. Considering Refugee Status for Hondurans

    By FRANCES ROBLES and MICHAEL D. SHEAR
    JULY 24, 2014



    Sisters and a friend from Honduras, ages 13, 14 and 16, along Mexico’s southern border this month, en route to the United States. Credit Meridith Kohut for The New York Times

    Hoping to stem the recent surge of migrants at the Southwest border, the Obama administration is considering whether to allow hundreds of minors and young adults from Honduras into the United States without making the dangerous trek through Mexico, according to a draft of the proposal.
    If approved, the plan would direct the government to screen thousands of children and youths in Honduras to see if they can enter the United States as refugees or on emergency humanitarian grounds. It would be the first American refugee effort in a nation reachable by land to the United States, the White House said, putting the violence in Honduras on the level of humanitarian emergencies in Haiti and Vietnam, where such programs have been conducted in the past amid war and major crises.
    Critics of the plan were quick to pounce, saying it appeared to redefine the legal definition of a refugee and would only increase the flow of migration to the United States. Administration officials said they believed the plan could be enacted through executive action, without congressional approval, as long as it did not increase the total number of refugees coming into the country.

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    By moving decisions on refugee claims to Honduras, the plan aims to slow the rush of minors crossing into the United States illegally from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala, which has overwhelmed the border this year. More than 45,000 unaccompanied minors from those three nations have arrived since Oct. 1, straining federal resources to the point that some agencies will exhaust their budgets by next month, the secretary of Homeland Security has said.
    Many of the children, particularly in Honduras, are believed to be fleeing dangerous street gangs, which forcibly recruit members and extort home and business owners. The United Nations estimates that 70,000 gang members operate in the three nations.
    Administration officials stressed that no decision had been made to move forward, saying the idea was one of many being discussed by officials at the White House and the Departments of State, Homeland Security, Justice, and Health and Human Services.
    Among the factors surrounding the decision are how many people in Honduras would be eligible to apply for the program, and how many would probably be approved.
    The proposal, prepared by several federal agencies, says the pilot program under consideration would cost up to $47 million over two years, assuming 5,000 applied and about 1,750 people were accepted. If successful, it would be adopted in Guatemala and El Salvador as well.
    It is unclear how the administration determined those estimates, given that since Oct. 1 more than 16,500 unaccompanied children traveled to the United States from Honduras alone.
    Children would be interviewed by American immigration employees trained to deal with minors, and a resettlement center would be set up in the Honduran capital, Tegucigalpa, with assistance from international organizations like the International Organization for Migration.
    The plan would be similar to a recent bill introduced by Senators John McCain and Jeff Flake of Arizona, who proposed increasing the number of refugee visas to the three Central American countries by 5,000 each.
    According to the draft, the administration is considering opening the program to people under 21. It also suggested offering entry on emergency humanitarian grounds — known as humanitarian parole — to some of the applicants who did not qualify for refugee status.



    A crime scene in San Pedro Sula, Honduras, where a 7-year-old was found tortured and murdered. Credit Meridith Kohut for The New York Times That would most likely cause an outcry among critics who believe President Obama has been too soft on immigration. But officials called it “highly unlikely” that people who were denied refugee status would be considered for parole, which is generally offered in isolated emergencies.
    Mark Krikorian, the executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which supports tighter controls on immigration, said that the proposal would increase, not stem, the flood of migrants from Central America trying to get into the United States.
    “It’s clearly a bad idea,” Mr. Krikorian said. “Orders of magnitude more people will apply for refugee status if they can just do it from their home countries.”
    He added that the proposal would allow people to claim to be refugees from their countries with “nothing more than a bus ride to the consulate. We’re talking about, down the road, an enormous additional flow of people from those countries.”
    The preliminary plan could create a thorny challenge for the administration because the definition of a refugee is legally specific, and children fleeing street gangs could have a hard time qualifying.
    Under American law, refugees are people fleeing their country of origin based on fears of persecution by reason of race, religion, nationality, political opinion or membership in a particular social group.
    The only category that would seem to apply is “social group,” experts said, but there is disagreement on what that means. Some contend that children could count as a group, but others say the refugee requirements are stricter, and would not apply to people fleeing general crime and violence.
    “What is a social group?” said Muzaffar Chishti, director of migration policies for the Migration Policy Institute’s New York office. “This is going to create a huge deal of debate. You will see a lot of law developing on it.”
    Still, the draft of the plan noted that 64.7 percent of the unaccompanied minors who applied for asylum this year got it, which suggests that immigration officials have found their claims of imminent danger credible.



    Migrants traveling north through Mexico toward the United States on a northbound freight train known as “The Beast,” because of rampant accidents and violent crime. Credit Meridith Kohut for The New York Times With that in mind, the draft proposal suggested that 35 percent to 50 percent of the applicants in Honduras could be considered for relief, a figure the White House said was inflated. The early draft, the White House said, was the most generous and least likely of the options the administration is considering. How many people are accepted is critical, because refugees qualify for public assistance upon arrival in the United States.
    One of the issues under debate is whether the program should be limited to children who have at least one relative in the United States, so that the government would not be saddled with custodial issues. Whether that relative

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    The planes need to be going toward those nations, filled with their citizens. They need to reimburse us and pay for the costs that have been borne by the American people.

    We need to fear the dangers from the stupidity of the federal government as much as we do possible terrorist threats. Our inept government is hustling the criminals across our borders and transferring them farther within the homeland, endangering the entire nation, border to border.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
    The planes need to be going toward those nations, filled with their citizens. They need to reimburse us and pay for the costs that have been borne by the American people.

    We need to fear the dangers from the stupidity of the federal government as much as we do possible terrorist threats. Our inept government is hustling the criminals across our borders and transferring them farther within the homeland, endangering the entire nation, border to border.
    Well said and I agree!!We thought our illegal immigration problem was bad before, this is even more of a nightmare.

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    UNREAL: Obama Considering New Plan to Help Illegal Aliens From Honduras Skip Mexico and Fly Directly Into U.S. as Refugees

    http://www.libertynews.com/2014/07/u...s-as-refugees/

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    UNREAL: Obama Considering New Plan to Help Illegal Aliens From Honduras Skip Mexico and Fly Directly Into U.S. as Refugees


    By Eric Odom
    9:00 am July 25, 2014

    An intel report that was recently leaked and discovered proves people fleeing Honduras for the U.S. are not running away from something in their home country, but are instead running to the U.S. for the promise of the social welfare system. But those facts mean nothing to the Obama Administration. It looks like the White House i about to begin shipping people directly from Honduras into the U.S. without them ever stepping into Mexico to get here.
    Via NYT.
    Hoping to stem the recent surge of migrants at the Southwest border, the Obama administration is considering whether to allow hundreds of minors and young adults from Honduras into the United States without making the dangerous trek through Mexico, according to a draft of the proposal.
    If approved, the plan would direct the government to screen thousands of children and youths in Honduras to see if they can enter the United States as refugees or on emergency humanitarian grounds. It would be the first American refugee effort in a nation reachable by land to the United States, the White House said, putting the violence in Honduras on the level of humanitarian emergencies in Haiti and Vietnam, where such programs have been conducted in the past amid war and major crises.
    Again, it has already been proven the majority of people coming here are coming for free social services. Leaked intel documents make it impossible to argue.
    Yet, the Obama looters are going to illegally begin importing these people anyway?
    Additionally, as soon as the U.S. starts getting into refugee talk, the United Nations will begin taking a much closer look. And that opens up a whole different can of worms.


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    Because They Can’t Get Here Fast Enough, Obama Now Wants To Fly Illegal Children To The U.S.



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    July 25, 2014

    Because there simply aren’t enough illegal immigrants flooding into the United States, Barack Obama wants to fly hundreds of them from Honduras directly to America.
    The proposal would direct the federal government to screen thousands of minors in the Central American country to see if they qualify to come into the country on humanitarian grounds or as refugees.
    The proposal – according to the White House – does not need Congressional approval and would be an executive action.
    The Administration claims this would stem the flood of unaccompanied alien minors coming across the border from Mexico and would be safer for the children.
    Under the proposal, the feds would spend $47 million over the next two years and possibly bring 1,750 children from Honduras to the U.S. According to The New York Times, if successful, the plan would be expanded to Guatemala and El Salvador.
    Mark Krikorian, the executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which supports tighter controls on immigration, said that the proposal would increase, not stem, the flood of migrants from Central America trying to get into the United States.
    “It’s clearly a bad idea,” Mr. Krikorian said. “Orders of magnitude more people will apply for refugee status if they can just do it from their home countries.”
    In the last year, close to 60,000 minors have come across the border from Central American countries. Busses of them have criss-crossed the country, meeting with angry protests everywhere.

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    Democrats come up with a unique solution to the illegal immigration issue: just fly them in...




    President Obama Considers Solving Illegal Immigrant Issue by Flying in Children Directly to the U.S.


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    The Obama administration has new idea to stem the flow of people on the southern border: set up a refugee processing center in Honduras so they can fly to the U.S. This is not a joke, unfortunately. It’s being reported in The New York Times.
    Here are some details:
    Hoping to stem the recent surge of migrants at the Southwest border, the Obama administration is considering whether to allow hundreds of minors and young adults from Honduras into the United States without making the dangerous trek through Mexico, according to a draft of the proposal.

    If approved, the plan would direct the government to screen thousands of children and youths in Honduras to see if they can enter the United States as refugees or on emergency humanitarian grounds. It would be the first American refugee effort in a nation reachable by land to the United States, the White House said, putting the violence in Honduras on the level of humanitarian emergencies in Haiti and Vietnam, where such programs have been conducted in the past amid war and major crises.

    Of course, the Haiti and Vietnam emergencies were a result of war and political persecution. While it is commendable to try and discourage people from making the 1,000+ mile trek from Central America to the U.S., this program poses a major problem in that it illegally expands the definition of refugee, which is narrowly defined in American law.
    Under American law, refugees are people fleeing their country of origin based on fears of persecution by reason of race, religion, nationality, political opinion or membership in a particular social group.
    Under this definition, these people are as much refugees as someone trying to flee into Canada from Chicago. After all, Chicago and many other American inner cities are plagued with high crime and gang activity.
    If President Obama wants to change the definition of refugee, he should come to Congress and ask them to change the law. Or here’s a wild idea – try exporting America’s ideals of freedom and the rule of law, instead of importing millions from countries that are in shambles.


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