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    NRA blames media, music and more for culture of violence

    NRA blames media, music and more for culture of violence

    "The only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."
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    National Rifle Association Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre raises the question of why the gun has automatically become "a bad word," when "the thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

    By Tom Curry, NBC News national affairs writer

    National Rifle Association executive vice president Wayne LaPierre blamed Hollywood, video games music, the courts and more on Friday for creating a culture of violence in the United States.

    “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” he said at a Washington press event, adding, “With all the money in the federal budget can’t we afford to put a police officer in every single school?”

    LaPierre made his lengthy statement to the press one week after the shooting that killed 20 children and six adults at a school in Newtown, Conn.

    Protesters twice interrupted LaPierre, who will appear this Sunday exclusively on NBC's "Meet the Press," holding signs reading "NRA KILLING OUR KIDS," and screaming that the gun rights group has "blood on its hands."

    He said that elected officials had no authority to deny Americans the right and the ability to protect themselves and their families from harm.

    And he noted that there are millions of active and retired police officers, military veterans, and private security guards – “an extraordinary corps of patriotic, trained, qualified citizens” – who should devise a protection plan for every school.

    “I call on Congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation,” he said.

    He said that laws that established gun-free school zones have had the effect of telling “every insane killer in America that schools are the safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk.”

    LaPierre said America has left its schoolchildren “utterly defenseless -- and the monsters and the predators of the world know it and exploit it.”

    He criticized Congress for not creating a national database of the mentally ill and called for increased federal prosecution of those who illegally possess guns.

    LaPierre did not indicate that the NRA would support any additional restrictions on the sale or possession of guns. He ridiculed the idea that “one more gun ban or one more law imposed on peaceful, lawful people will protect us where 20,000 other laws have failed.”

    Following the school shooting tragedy in Newtown, Conn., Wayne LaPierre, Executive Vice President of the National Rifle Association, says "vicious, violent video games" like "Mortal Combat" and "GTA," along with "blood-soaked films" like "Natural Born Killers," "bring criminal cruelty into our homes each and every day."

    He assailed the news media which he said had “demonized gun owners.”

    And he said “the next Adam Lanza” is “waiting in the wings” and argued that copycat killers are encouraged by “a national media machine that rewards them with wall-to-wall attention and a sense of identity that they crave.”

    He also criticized the video game industry for violent Hollywood films such as “American Psycho” and “Natural Born Killers.”

    On Wednesday President Barack Obama asked Vice President Joe Biden to lead an effort that includes members of the Cabinet and outside organizations to devise concrete legislative gun restriction proposals by next month, “proposals that I then intend to push without delay,” Obama said.

    He said he would “use all the powers of this office to help advance efforts aimed at preventing more tragedies” such as the shootings in Connecticut.

    House Speaker John Boehner on Thursday said, “When the vice president's recommendations come forward, we'll certainly take them into consideration.”

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., the author of the 1994 ban on certain types of semiautomatic firearms which expired in 2004, announced this week that she will introduce new legislation early next year.

    Semiautomatic firearms, including semiautomatic weapons sometimes called “assault weapons,” fire one round per pull of the trigger.

    Her bill would outlaw the sale, transfer, importation and manufacture of more than 100 specifically-named firearms as well as certain semiautomatic rifles, handguns and shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

    Feinstein would also outlaw large-capacity ammunition magazines capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.

    Her measure would also “grandfather” weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment and exempt more than 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting and sporting purposes, according to a statement from her office on Monday.

    The number of murders committed with guns has declined sharply in the past 20 years.

    The rate of firearms-related murders in 2011 was 3.2 per 100,000 people. In 1993 the rate of firearms-related murders was 6.6 per 100,000 people. The number of firearms-related murder victims dropped from more than 17,000 in 1993 to 9,903 in 2011.

    Yet the shootings in Connecticut have raised the possibility that Congress might enact restrictive legislation that would incorporate the 1994 ban as well as measures to increase funding for treatment of mentally ill people.

    It is not yet clear what specific legislation, in addition to Feinstein’s bill, will be proposed in Congress and which measures Obama would throw his weight behind.

    He did say during the second debate with his Republican opponent Mitt Romney that he wanted to see “if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced. But part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence. Because frankly, in my home town of Chicago, there's an awful lot of violence and they're not using AK-47s. They're using cheap hand guns.”

    He added, “What I want is a comprehensive strategy. Part of it is seeing if we can get automatic weapons that kill folks in amazing numbers out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill. But part of it is also going deeper and seeing if we can get into these communities and making sure we catch violent impulses before they occur.”

    The outcome of legislative efforts in the Senate may well be determined by Democratic senators from states where there’s strong support for the rights of gun owners.

    Sen. Joe Manchin, D- W.W., who was just re-elected in November, has given mixed signals on his readiness to support restrictions on semiautomatic weapons.

    Manchin said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” Monday that, “I’m a proud NRA member and always have been. But we need to sit down and move this dialogue to a sensible, reasonable approach…. I don`t know anyone in the sporting or hunting arena that goes out with an assault rifle. I don`t know anybody that needs 30 rounds in a clip to go hunting.”

    But two days later in an interview with West Virginia talk radio host Hoppy Kercheval, Manchin seemed to edge away from his statement on Monday. Manchin said he was “not supporting a ban on anything. I'm supporting a conversation on everything."

    When Kercheval asked Manchin if he regretted what he’d said on Morning Joe. "I'm saying it more articulate today," Manchin replied.

    In addition to Manchin and another centrist Democrat, senator-elect Joe Donnelly of Indiana who has received NRA backing in past elections, there are half dozen Democratic senators up for re-election in 2014 who represent states that are more protective of gun owners’ rights, for example, Sen. Kay Hagan of North Carolina, Sen. Mark Pryor of Arkansas, and Sen. Mark Begich of Alaska.


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    There are approximately 100,000 public schools in the U.S. Assuming an average annual salary of $50,000 for each police officer, the cost of stationing a cop in every school would be somewhere around $5 billion. That wouldn't include pension and benefits . . .

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/21/is-putting-cop-in-every-school-even-possible-or-wise/#ixzz2FisMgRpg
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    The NRA has it right but the far left does not really care about people protecting themselves it's all about creating victims and those who depend on government. The liberal agenda is building a socialist/communist utopia even though it has never worked in any country but they are so in love with the idea it's an obsession.

    We now have hundreds and soon more ex soldiers who could be trained in various positions at all schools in dual roles as protection,sports,physical fitness and so on,cost sure but let go some administration or a relative of someone who is drawing a salary doing nothing. Many of these schools have no male influence at all the ex soldiers would/could serve as role models for young children who have never known a father or had a male in there lives.

    One suggestion,join the NRA or other second amendment organization fight the left with money, notice the Hollywood types never have a problem turning out horrible violent movies and video games, why, because they contribute big time to political figures.

    So sad the liberals could not allow the country to mourn these children killed in Connecticut but the agenda is more important to them I guess but nor do they lose sleep over the 4000 per month abortions either.
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    With our goal of smaller government and less spending how do we spend $5 BILLION to hire 100,000 armed security guards.

    And if we go over the fiscal cliff we won't be hiring anyone, they'll be letting people go right and left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    With our goal of smaller government and less spending how do we spend $5 BILLION to hire 100,000 armed security guards.

    And if we go over the fiscal cliff we won't be hiring anyone, they'll be letting people go right and left.
    I agree we need to cut overall, foreign aid, welfare, etc, many places, we now spend 7000,$10,000 per student but enough savings could be found in school waste to hire protection. My point is more laws are not the answer it simply never works,personally I will gladly give up my ability to call 911 for protection of children first if it comes to that.
    One thing I would add here we are over the "fiscal cliff" now and no matter what they do unless we return to a manufacturing base it will only get worse so do not allow the media to panic you about the fiscal cliff hysteria.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldguy View Post
    . . . unless we return to a manufacturing base it will only get worse . . .
    Manufacturing jobs making a comeback in southern U.S.
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    FLASHBACK: CLINTON REQUESTS $60 MILLION TO PUT COPS IN SCHOOLS



    by JOHN NOLTE 21 Dec 2012,

    Today, the same elite media who no doubt send their own kids to private schools that employ armed security, just can't stop howling ridicule at the NRA's idea to give every student in America those same protections. Because the NRA's idea is so appealing, as I write this, the media's going overboard, mocking it as bizarre, crazy, and out of touch.

    This is how the media works to silence and vilify the opposition and to ensure that only their ideas control The Narrative. The media doesn't care about securing our schools; they only care about coming after our guns and handing Obama another political win.

    The media also doesn’t care how wildly hypocritical they look.

    In their zeal to rampage this left-wing agenda, the media has apparently forgotten that back in 2000, on the one-year anniversary of the Columbine shooting (which occurred with an assault weapons ban in place), President Clinton requested $60 million in federal money to fund a fifth round of funding for a program called "COPS in School," a program that does exactly what the NRA is proposing and the media is currently in overdrive mocking:

    Clinton also unveiled the $60-million fifth round of funding for "COPS in School," a Justice Department program that helps pay the costs of placing police officers in schools to help make them safer for students and teachers. The money will be used to provide 452 officers in schools in more than 220 communities.

    "Already, it has placed 2,200 officers in more than 1,000 communities across our nation, where they are heightening school safety as well as coaching sports and acting as mentors and mediators for kids in need," Clinton said.

    The media is not only so driven to ensure Sandy Hook is used to win this round on gun control that they've become morally blinded to what really needs to be done to immediately secure our schools; they've lost their grip historically and politically.

    Think about it: The media is entering a new year attempting to convince parents that their children will be less safe with a policeman in their school.

    Off the rails doesn’t even begin to describe it.

    Flashback: Clinton Requests $60 Million to Put Cops in Schools


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