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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratbstard View Post
    libertygunrights.com
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    Very interesting opinion piece, until I read down to this part...



    Quote Originally Posted by Ratbstard View Post
    We have been lied to for more than 100 years, but you can trust United States Representative Ron Paul’s excellent 100% pro-freedom 22 year voting record in the U.S. House of Representatives as actions speak much louder than just mere words!

    Elliott Graham, Chairman
    Because of this.....

    Paul, who has served 11 terms in three different stages dating back to 1976, didn’t get a single law passed until 2009, when he authored a bill that allowed for the sale of a customs house in Galveston, Texas. Failure is often the norm in Congress, where only 4 percent of proposed bills get a President’s signature, but Paul’s approach to lawmaking is particularly suited to not getting things done.
    Of the 620 bills sponsored by Ron Paul during his long career in the House of Representatives, only four have ever made it to a vote on the House floor and only one of those became an actual law. An analysis by The Washington Post shows that Paul’s success rate of 0.2 percent falls far below that of most legislators, as Paul has chosen to stand up for his personal crusades, rather that build coalitions for more popular, but less ambitious, proposals.
    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/polit...ongress/46661/

    Which made Elliott Graham's editorial null and void to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneNationUnderGod View Post
    Wow loservillelabor, I wasn't being nasty about it, just wondering. And the personal attacks continue...........
    Forgive me if I made you feel nasty. I thought it strange you weren't aware that Romney was the last hope for many folks in the 08 primary. I see now you joined in 2009. Folks sent him gobs of cash and then he just quit. That allowed McAmnesty by default.

    Really, Google is easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loservillelabor View Post

    Really, Google is easy.
    Well at least for you and me it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loservillelabor View Post
    Really, Google is easy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ratbstard View Post
    Well at least for you and me it is.
    Really? Is this what this discussion has come too? You putting me down for not googling better than you? Unbelievable.

    Hope everyone has a great 2012. May God help our country this year and get the socialist, dictator, wanna be king out of our Whitehouse.

    God Bless our great country.

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    While the Pauls are pushing I ....uh...uh..uh yahooed? hmmm

    SB1070...Ron Paul---Nope
    Border Wall
    ...Ron Paul----Nope

    See what else I can find since Old Ron and all his personal friends are busy...

    E-verify..Ron Paul---Nope.
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    Google this.

    Ron Paul Backs "Ground Zero Mosque," Splitting with Son Rand

    By Brian Montopoli Topics Republicans , Campaign 2010

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    Ron Paul
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    Libertarian Congressman Ron Paul is breaking with many of his fellow Republicans - among them his son Rand - to support the creation of the planned Islamic cultural center near the former site of the World Trade Center that has come to be known as the "ground zero mosque."
    In a statement decrying "demagogy" around the issue, the former Republican presidential candidate wrote late last week that "the debate should have provided the conservative defenders of property rights with a perfect example of how the right to own property also protects the 1st Amendment rights of assembly and religion by supporting the building of the mosque."
    "Instead, we hear lip service given to the property rights position while demanding that the need to be 'sensitive' requires an all-out assault on the building of a mosque, several blocks from 'ground zero,'" Paul continues.
    He goes on to argue that "the neo-conservatives who demand continual war in the Middle East and Central Asia...never miss a chance to use hatred toward Muslims to rally support for the ill conceived preventative wars."
    Adds Paul: "It is repeatedly said that 64% of the people, after listening to the political demagogues, don't want the mosque to be built. What would we do if 75% of the people insist that no more Catholic churches be built in New York City? The point being is that majorities can become oppressors of minority rights as well as individual dictators."
    "This is all about hate and Islamaphobia," he argues.
    The statement is particularly notable in light of comments on the issue by Paul's son, Kentucky Republican Senate nominee Rand Paul. Rand Paul has said that while he is hesitant to get involved in a local issue, he does not believe the cultural center should be built; "the Muslim community would better serve the healing process by making a donation to the memorial fund for the victims of September 11th," he said.
    (By the way, Paul's Democratic opponent in the Senate race, Jack Conway, also opposes the center.)
    Rand Paul got in trouble early in his general election campaign for staking out typically-Libertarian positions, most notably in questioning parts of the Civil Rights Act and Americans with Disabilities Act. He subsequently adopted more traditionally-Republican rhetoric and declined to embrace his father's full-throated opposition to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, among other causes important to many libertarians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneNationUnderGod View Post
    Really? Is this what this discussion has come too? You putting me down for not googling better than you? Unbelievable.
    Oh come on, it was a joke. This is why I usually just post articles and rarely comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pattyk View Post
    Hmm and what did we do as North Korea developed theirs? Pakistan has them and their not so stable, not even our friends if you ask me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by airdale View Post
    While the Paul's are pushing I ....uh...uh..uh yahooed? hmmm

    SB1070...Ron Paul---Nope
    Border Wall
    ...Ron Paul----Nope



    See what else I can find since Old Ron and all his personal friends are busy...

    E-verify..Ron Paul---Nope.
    Well I may not be a "google" but even though he has spoke out against "birth right citizenship" once The Illegals are here...Big freaking deal Ron!

    And on Deport, all i can find is Old Ron saying "can't".

    Not my choice.....on Illegal Immigration!

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