Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    NC
    Posts
    11,242

    NYTimes-FBI May Spy on Americans

    August 21, 2008
    New Guidelines Would Give F.B.I. Broader Powers
    By ERIC LICHTBLAU
    WASHINGTON — A Justice Department plan would loosen restrictions on the Federal Bureau of Investigation to allow agents to open a national security or criminal investigation against someone without any clear basis for suspicion, Democratic lawmakers briefed on the details said Wednesday.

    The plan, which could be made public next month, has already generated intense interest and speculation. Little is known about its precise language, but civil liberties advocates say they fear it could give the government even broader license to open terrorism investigations.

    Congressional staff members got a glimpse of some of the details in closed briefings this month, and four Democratic senators told Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey in a letter on Wednesday that they were troubled by what they heard.

    The senators said the new guidelines would allow the F.B.I. to open an investigation of an American, conduct surveillance, pry into private records and take other investigative steps “without any basis for suspicion.â€
    Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Santa Clarita Ca
    Posts
    9,714
    Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)

  3. #3
    Senior Member magyart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Columbus, OH
    Posts
    1,722
    Don't be shocked, but the FBI has always "spied" on Americans and the CIA spied beyond the border.

  4. #4
    AE
    AE is offline

    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    3507+ ALIPAC Super Hero since 07/2005
    Posts
    2,311
    Personally, they can watch and listen to me all they want, I have nothing to hide, however, I disagree with them having that ok to do so when there is not enough reason.

    I have had my own concerns, as an activist that a profile could be made of one of us at any time now, with the patriot act in place. All it takes is for them the say they feel that any one of us poses a potential threat due to our strong feelings against a government that refuses to do it's job, and make that their claim, that we might be a problem.

    Again, I know not one of us has any concerns, or anything to hide, yet it is so wrong that they can do that and sniff around in our proverbial backyard and essentially take away our Constitutional privacy.
    “In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot.â€

  5. #5
    bettsie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Posts
    173
    You don't need anything to hide for them to take you in. There was a fellow at the Save Our State forum who was taken in even though he was innocent. He spent several months in jail and had his good name tarnished before they dismissed the charges and let him go.

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    NC
    Posts
    11,242
    Agree, AE, since I know every detail of my life is already somewhere else besides this country, i.e., payrolls being processed in India, my SS number in the possession of the local utilities, my medical records being processed by some foreign doctor, my cell phone able to locate my whereabouts to any interested party, corporations knowing every purchase I make with a credit or debit card(so they will be able to entice me with their products) and every word I type on any internet site may be subject to hacking, official or not.
    I just fear that with this wide spread of investigation allowance against American citizens, we are returning to a sort of McCarthy era.
    Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •