Thread: Obama official unveils plan to fight heroin use

The heroin "epidemic" is complements of the Mexican cartels. By refusing to enforce immigration laws and moving the Border Patrol 70 miles inside the border, the Obama administration has ALLOWED the cartels to traffic heroin.. Now they want to pay for "programs" to fix it. JMO

Obama official unveils plan to fight heroin use

BY DAN FRIEDMAN
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Updated: Monday, August 17, 2015, 8:01 PM

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is focusing on the hard-hit Northeast in a new fight against the nation’s skyrocketing heroin problem.

The U.S. Office of National Drug Control Policy said it will spend $2.5 million to create what the agency's director, Michael Botticelli, called an unprecedented partnership among officials in five areas — New York/New Jersey; New England; Philadelphia/Camden; Washington/Baltimore and Appalachia.

"This administration will continue to expand community-based efforts to prevent drug use, pursue 'smart on crime' approaches to drug enforcement, increase access to treatment, work to reduce overdose deaths, and support the millions of Americans in recovery," he said.

The campaign comes amid rising concern about heroin overdoses, which nearly quadrupled from 2010 to 2013, when they killed 8,200, with the Northeast and Midwest suffering the largest number of deaths.
The shift came after efforts to restrict abuse of OxyContin, a prescription painkiller, led many addicts to turn to heroin, which is cheaper and widely available.

The spread of heroin, with greater numbers of middle-class users, has become a 2016 presidential campaign issue. Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton recently held a forum in New Hampshire on drug addiction, an issue she said voters have raised with her.

The Obama administration touted Monday's announcement, though a small step, as part of a shift toward treating drug addiction as a disease rather than criminalizing it.

Botticelli said the $2.5 million will fund grants that support hiring of public safety and public health coordinators who will work together to find overdose patterns and trafficking trends, speeding up unified responses to the epidemic.

The teams also hope to pinpoint where dealers are lacing heroin with fentanyl, a legal opiate that caused a large number of recent overdoses.

Botticelli said the grants will allow states to hire intelligence directors analyzing heroin use trends.
It's part of $13.4 million in new spending announced by the Obama administration to target areas with high intensity drug trafficking.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.2328586

The government knows where it is coming from. This article is from 2012.

But evidence now points to no place in the U.S. being too remote for the cartels. Drugs, firearms and money tied to Mexicandrug organizations have been found in small rural towns as well as lucrative suburbs.

And the number of these cases is growing. The National Drug Intelligence Center of the Department of Justice estimates that Mexicandrugcartels control the majority of the methamphetamine, heroin and marjiuana that is distributed in the nation.

Drug Cartels Operating In The U.S. Follow The TrailOf Mexican Immigrants Into American Heartland
http://www.alipac.us/f12/drug-cartel...americ-264147/

The campaign comes amid rising concern about heroin overdoses, which nearly quadrupled from 2010 to 2013, when they killed 8,200, with the Northeast and Midwest suffering the largest number of deaths.

The shift came after efforts to restrict abuse of OxyContin, a prescription painkiller, led many addicts to turn to heroin, which is cheaper and widely available.

Since the first studies of addition starting in 1913, there is 2% of our population who for whatever reason become addicted to drugs. 2% in 1913. The rate is still 2% more than 100 years later.

The primary cause of drug overdose is bad drugs, too strong, wrong mix, improper use, not enough information about what they're using and how to use it safely. For the most part, these deaths occur because of an illegal drug industry due to the War on Drugs.

Several years ago I researched the whole issue and problem and my conclusion as a non-drug user, someone who has never had any interest in it and never understood why other people do, was that the War on Drugs needs to end, these recreational drugs need to be legalized, regulated and taxed under the FairTax and a portion of the tax revenue used to fund the regulations, better educate the public about the risks and consequences of using drugs, and provide free rehab on demand without stigma for anyone who wants or needs it, all paid for with FairTaxes only drug users pay when they purchase the products. The legal business would be owned and operated from A to Z, top to bottom, by licensed US Citizens Only and would need to be a domestic-only business (no imports, no exports) to eliminate any international issues associated with it.

I also concluded that this massive illegal industry is all run by foreign cartels that are funding the illegal alien movement into the United States to have their own sub-population they own and control to foster and protect their massive enterprise. The cartels who own the illegal drug industry need open borders and illegal aliens to run the drugs in and haul the money out, to bribe law enforcement and politicians, and to play the government and politicians however they want or need. That's why the Mexican government supports and promotes illegal immigration into the US as does our own which is why the illegal immigration problem has never been solved.

Originally Posted by Judy

Since the first studies of addition starting in 1913, there is 2% of our population who for whatever reason become addicted to drugs. 2% in 1913. The rate is still 2% more than 100 years later.

The primary cause of drug overdose is bad drugs, too strong, wrong mix, improper use, not enough information about what they're using and how to use it safely. For the most part, these deaths occur because of an illegal drug industry due to the War on Drugs.

Several years ago I researched the whole issue and problem and my conclusion as a non-drug user, someone who has never had any interest in it and never understood why other people do, was that the War on Drugs needs to end, these recreational drugs need to be legalized, regulated and taxed under the FairTax and a portion of the tax revenue used to fund the regulations, better educate the public about the risks and consequences of using drugs, and provide free rehab on demand without stigma for anyone who wants or needs it, all paid for with FairTaxes only drug users pay when they purchase the products. The legal business would be owned and operated from A to Z, top to bottom, by licensed US Citizens Only and would need to be a domestic-only business (no imports, no exports) to eliminate any international issues associated with it.

I also concluded that this massive illegal industry is all run by foreign cartels that are funding the illegal alien movement into the United States to have their own sub-population they own and control to foster and protect their massive enterprise. The cartels who own the illegal drug industry need open borders and illegal aliens to run the drugs in and haul the money out, to bribe law enforcement and politicians, and to play the government and politicians however they want or need. That's why the Mexican government supports and promotes illegal immigration into the US as does our own which is why the illegal immigration problem has never been solved.

I can't imagine in what world the use of heroine would be considered acceptable! Outside of the possibility for controlled medical use, there isn't even a rational argument for the legalization of such hard-line drugs!

Originally Posted by MW

I can't imagine in what world the use of heroine would be considered acceptable! Outside of the possibility for controlled medical use, there isn't even a rational argument for the legalization of such hard-line drugs!

The reason is to save the lives of 8,200 people who the article states died in the United States during a 3 year period from heroin overdose. Heroin is morphine with an additive and needs to be legalized along with other drugs, so the quality and quantity are regulated so when heroin addicts want or need to use it, they can buy it legally in a safe form and if and when they want or need a chance to kick it have a free on-demand-without-stigma rehab program available to them, that only they and other drug users paid for through the FairTaxes they paid when they purchased the drugs.

Usually, in order to resolve massive programs, like the War on Drugs, that incarcerates over 1.5 million Americans a year, while 20 million or more illegal aliens roam our land with lawyers, advocates, drivers licenses, municipal ID cards, tax credit welfare, Medicaid, and compliments of "making valuable contributions to the economy", we have to think outside the box our government and its advocates put US in. I got outside that box 10 years ago doing research on illegal immigration which revealed the link between illegal immigration and many bad things, including the War on Drugs.

Simply because something is legal and regulated doesn't mean it's also proper, right, preferred or acceptable, it just means society isn't incarcerating people and completely ruining their lives because they chose to do something we wouldn't do. Heroin addicts are part of the 2% of our population who become drug addicts, whether something is legal or not. who were introduced to opiates through the medical profession, narcotics prescriptions, morphine while in the hospital, and became addicted that way. Others are unhappy, stressed out, and can't find a calm, relaxed or comfortable spot in their lives because of the way their bodies are made or the way their mind and emotions work or because of conditions in their lives or because of a medically-induced addition and seek an escape or relief through drugs to make them feel better, but whatever the reason they use drugs, is no reason for US to make it illegal forcing them to deal with killers, cartels, unscrupulous producers or punish them for their actions and further ruin their lives.

My plan is the best solution. And it can start out with less serious drugs than heroin, but it needs to be all of them. Heroin users and heroin addicts deserve the same access to safe products as anyone else, something legalization and regulation can provide them, along with the free rehab should they decide they want or need it.

The plan improves the lot of drug users, ends the crime and recklessness of an illegal drug industry, shuts down the foreign cartels behind illegal immigration, saves taxpayers a fortune, restores the liberty and purges the records of drug "felons", provides the funding for better education about drugs and why not to use it, how to use them as safely as possible if you choose to use them, keeps it off the streets and away from children, brings about $300 billion a year back into our economy, and frees up law enforcement to focus on more important matters like securing our country from illegal immigration and solving serious crimes that actually harm someone or damage their property.

It's a win-win-win for everyone, Americans with family members in prison for non-violent drug offenses, taxpayers footing the enormous tab of the failed and futile War on Drugs, citizens who can take our country and politicians back from foreign drug cartels, our economy and businesses that will now own the $300 billion recreational legal and regulated drug trade, younger people who will have more and better information about the risks and consequences of using drugs, stores that sell drugs of good and safe quality in small safe quantities with warning labels the same way we sell prescription medicines which better informs and protects users/customers, and society as a whole because a great deal of drug use starts out because of the thrill of it being "illegal" and doing the "forbidden".

I look around our country and see where it is today, there's not one thing about it that's better because of the War on Drugs, and in many ways things are much worse. Much of our poverty is driven by families who have an income earner in jail because they were incarcerated on a drug charge and even when they get out, they can't get a job because of a felony drug record. So who benefited from it? No one in the United States. Everyone in our country is harmed by it, the person, their family, employers, and taxpayers who paid for it.

It's time to use common sense and start thinking outside the box of the War on Drugs, which is nothing more than authoritarianism run amok in our little land of liberty to enrich foreign drug cartels who are the sole beneficiaries of the War on Drugs.

Judy's Five Steps To Fix the US Economy:

1. Stop illegal immigration and reduce legal immigration
2. Pass the FairTax
3. Protect Our Trade
4. End the War on Drugs
5. Drill Baby Drill, But Do It Right

It's really that simple folks.

You are entitled to your opinion but I think your argument is without merit and is a very dangerous way to think. Hmm, maybe we should legalize and regulate dog and cock fighting too. That way the federal government can tax the winnings and oversee the operations to ensure the business is following regulations and taking care of their animals properly before they are sent to their death in the ring. Now, doesn't that sound ridiculous? I don't see any difference in your argument and the one I provided. In both both arguments there are still going to be victims that will die in the end. The responsible thing to do is to eliminate illegal drug usage, not condone it and make it legal just because would be easier. The easiest path is not always the righteous one.

You'll get no empathy from me where illegal drug users, abusers, makers, and pushers are concerned. They deserve everything bad that happens to them. I just think it's unfortunate that law enforcement can't identify them all!

Originally Posted by MW

You are entitled to your opinion but I think your argument is without merit and is a very dangerous way to think. Hmm, maybe we should legalize and regulate dog and cock fighting too. That way the federal government can tax the winnings and oversee the operations to ensure the business is following regulations and taking care of their animals properly before they are sent to their death in the ring. Now, doesn't that sound ridiculous? I don't see any difference in your argument and the one I provided. In both both arguments there are still going to be victims that will die in the end. The responsible thing to do is to eliminate illegal drug usage, not condone it and make it legal just because would be easier. The easiest path is not always the righteous one.

You'll get no empathy from me where illegal drug users, abusers, makers, and pushers are concerned. They deserve everything bad that happens to them. I just think it's unfortunate that law enforcement can't identify them all!

This isn't about "righteousness". Anyone who thinks incarceration of any American for non-violent drug charges has anything to do with "righteousness" is very messed up. So, on this, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Crime is when you harm someone else or damage someone else's property. Crime is not what one does to oneself. Your desire is use police and law enforcement to harm drug users is a vindictive outrageous punishment for simply being different than you. Unfortunately, we have a lot of this:

You'll get no empathy from me where illegal drug users, abusers, makers, and pushers are concerned. They deserve everything bad that happens to them.

still going around and why our problems never get solved.

The War on Drugs was started in 1913, the same year as the federal income tax and the Federal Reserve, by Democrats in Congress and Democrat Woodrow Wilson.

So how we doing 102 years later?

30 million illegal aliens, 20 million unemployed Americans, $20 Trillion in national debt.

At some point, the "righteous" have to face the fact that they're plan didn't work, and I believe more than a Century of Failure is evidence enough.

Judy wrote:

Crime is when you harm someone else or damage someone else's property. Crime is not what one does to oneself.

That's just it, drug users and abusers seldom just hurt themselves. Normally there are wives, husbands, employers, children, parents, grandparents, pets, friends, neighbors, and innocent bystanders that get hurt too!

Originally Posted by MW

Judy wrote:



That's just it, drug users and abusers seldom just hurt themselves. Normally their are wives, husbands, employers, children, parents, grandparents, pets, friends, neighbors, and innocent bystanders that get hurt too!

No, that's not "just it". There are separate laws to prosecute them for those crimes. We're arresting 1.5 million Americans a year for non-violent drug offenses that don't involve harm to anyone else or damage to anyone's property. There are other arrest records for those. State and local law enforcement arrest about 13 million people a year according to FBI statistics which is why the arrest record per officer (800,000 officers not including the feds) is only 1.5 arrests per month. That's why they should be able to assist us with illegal alien arrests and deportation without any increase in costs.

So there are clearly far more arrests of people who are actually hurting someone else or damaging someone else's property than there are drug users who are only hurting themselves.