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03-12-2016, 07:09 PM #1
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Ohio Voting Ballot Intentionally Confusing
This article was written by Piper McGowan and originally published at The Daily Sheeple.
March 9th, 2016
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Editor’s Comment: The GOP has a history of manipulating the primary, but this time they are going all out to destroy Trump. Is it any wonder that Ohio’s ballot – which will be cast next week – is so confusing that Trump may lose votes just as a result of the ballot’s design?
It is the home state of Governor John Kasich – a lackluster candidate who, nonetheless, was expected to win Ohio, and keep the delegates for the establishment side. But according to the polls, Trump is beating Kasich in Ohio AND Rubio in Florida – and they are big delegate, winner take all states. However, Kasich is close enough in his homestate, that a bit of meddling could change things. If Trump wins both, the GOP insiders have even less of a chance to trip up The Donald.
But if the Ohio GOP ballot leaves as many people scratching their heads as the newscaster in the video below, anything could happen in Ohio. Polls will not translate into votes if the machines are designed to deceive.
You Won’t Believe What They Did to the Ohio Ballot to Stop Trump
by Piper McGowan
We all know the elite are on the warpath against Donald Trump, with everyone from pundits, to major world leaders, to the Pope speaking out against him. Newt Gingrich recently said it’s because Trump isn’t part of the secret societies and hasn’t taken the initiation rites.
Regardless, Trump has received a groundswell of support from the average conservative American, winning state primaries left and right. Ohio’s primary is coming up on March 15, and it’s a big one because it’s a “winner takes all” state.
Well now it’s being alleged that Ohio’s GOP has intentionally set up a confusing ballot in a bid to try to make sure Donald Trump does not win.
The Dem ballot has one place for voters to mark their choice for president. Period.
The Republican ballot in Ohio this year apparently has two, leaving a lot more questions than answers about whether or not voters will understand how it works.
Take a look, (via the Conservative Treehouse):
Is the ballot intentionally confusing by design?Look at that ballot. It definitely raises a lot of questions… that aren’t answered on the ballot.
Given the previous discussions on State Party shenanigans, and the intent of state republican party leadership to hold complete influence over their delegate’s decision-making, many believe the answer is “probably”.
Do the majority of voters know the difference between “Delegates-at-Large” and “District Delegates”? Does a person need to choose their candidate twice, or are they only supposed to chose once? Which is right? What if they pick a different candidate in each box, do they cancel each other out? What if they pick someone in the first box and not the second, or vice versa?
Why the confusing GOP ballot, Ohio?
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03-12-2016, 07:53 PM #2
Here’s The Truth About The Confusing Ohio Ballot Supposedly ‘Rigged Against Trump’
by Rachel Stockman | 7:35 pm, March 10th, 2016
A conspiracy of internet rumors are emerging that the GOP establishment somehow ‘rigged’ the Ohio Republican primary ballot to hurt Donald Trump in the upcoming election. The primary, held next week, is considered a crucial race for Trump and his closest rival in that state — Ohio Governor John Kasich.
“The GOP has a history of manipulating the primary, but this time they are going all out to destroy Trump.
Is it any wonder that Ohio’s ballot– which will be cast next week — is so confusing that Trump may lose votes just as a result of the ballot’s design,” a blogger wrote on the popular website zerohedge.com. One story even had the headline, “You Won’t Believe What They Did to The Ohio Ballot To Stop Trump.”
So I did some investigating on this — and while I agree the ballot is ridiculously confusing, it doesn’t appear this was intentionally done to hurt a particular candidate. That being said, it doesn’t mean that voters won’t be so puzzled that they end up voting for someone they didn’t intend to send to the Cleveland convention.
Basically, what happened is that the Ohio Republican Party changed the rules in 2015 to make the state a winner-take-all primary. That means whoever wins gets all 66 delegates (instead of dividing them up among candidates). However, the state law apparently didn’t catch up with these new rules, and still requires the Ohio Secretary of State’s Office to print a ballot based upon on the old way of primary voting.
Here is what the ballot looks like:
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Okay, you see how there are two ways to vote for Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio or John Kasich (and the rest of the candidates who dropped out).
Well, only the top “delegate at large’ category will actually matter in tabulating who wins and which delegates go to the Cleveland convention. The bottom selection doesn’t apply anymore.
“I found it kind of confusing because there’s two places to mark,” voter Kathy Pelley told Fox 8 Cleveland, “But I just figured you mark two places.”
“There is no truth to this somehow being rigged,” Josh Eck, the press secretary for the Ohio Secretary of State told LawNewz.com. And just in case, you don’t believe them, the State will still post the results from both categories. Though, he said, “the vote for the delegate at large is what is going to have an impact on which Ohio delegates go to the convention.”
Interestingly, though, the Democratic ballot in Ohio is far less confusing.
Jon Husted, the Ohio Secretary of State released this statement.
“How you get on the ballot is set by state law; how delegates are awarded is based on the bylaws of the Republican Party…. the Republican primary ballot appears the way that it has always appeared. This is set by state law…Traditionally, Ohio Republicans have awarded at-large delegates and awarded district delegates. So there were two contests on the ballot.. The Republican Party chairman has clarified that the rules for awarding delegates will be based on the winner of the at-large delegate contest. Both contests will be counted. But the awarding of delegates is based solely on the first question. “
The question is, could this change the outcome of the Ohio primary? Potentially. You can imagine a scenario where someone was hesitant on who to vote for, so they checked Cruz for the ‘delegate at large’ category and Trump for ‘district delegates and alternatives’ category. Under the new winner-take-all Republican Party rules, only their Cruz vote would count towards who goes to the convention. This was a definite oversight, but — as for an intentional act to ‘rig’ the votes against Trump — I don’t think so.
http://lawnewz.com/politics/heres-th...against-trump/
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03-12-2016, 09:18 PM #3
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Well, only the top “delegate at large’ category will actually matter in tabulating who wins and which delegates go to the Cleveland convention. The bottom selection doesn’t apply anymore.The question is, could this change the outcome of the Ohio primary? Potentially. You can imagine a scenario where someone was hesitant on who to vote for, so they checked Cruz for the ‘delegate at large’ category and Trump for ‘district delegates and alternatives’ category. Under the new winner-take-all Republican Party rules, only their Cruz vote would count towards who goes to the convention.
"Rigging" might not be the proper term but it might disrupt and Trump is the only one they want to be the loser.
08 Mar 2016 - Understanding the Ohio Ballot.
TAKE NOTICE: YOUR BALLOT WILL HAVE TWO SEPARATE PLACES TO VOTE FOR PRESIDENT
Why? Because in previous presidential primaries Ohio was proportional and you would have been voting for the delegate to represent you at the state level (at-large) and at the district level (congressional) as well.
However, in anticipation of John Kasich running, the state party and legislature teamed up to change the rules of delegate allocation and the election day.
This was designed to help Kasich who they believed would easily win Ohio, but wanted to maximize the delegates he would get by making it winner take all. (Otherwise state law would have made Ohio's primary 3/8/2016 and GOP rules would have forced us to be a proportional state) However in this haste to prop up John Kasich, they neglected to remove the old system from the actual ballot.
So which one counts?
The Secretary of State is obligated by law to count both columns, however since this is a primary the Ohio Establishment GOP determines which vote total to use. So the party has decided that ONLY the AT-LARGE vote will be used to determine who won the state and gets the 66 delegates.
I'd still advise you to vote TRUMP in both columns, just to be sure.
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03-12-2016, 09:50 PM #4
It is confusing
but, it affects every candidate in the exact same way.NO AMNESTY
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03-12-2016, 10:05 PM #5
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"Rigging" might not be the proper term but it might disrupt and Trump is the only one they want to be the loser.
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