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    Ousted Steve Bannon Declares Trump Presidency He Campaigned For is Over

    Ousted Steve Bannon declares Trump presidency he campaigned for is over


    • Harriet Alexander, David Millward, Barney Henderson

    19 AUGUST 2017 • 2:25AM


    A defiant Steve Bannon declared the Trump presidency he had campaigned for was over as he vowed to carry on the fight after being ousted as the White House chief strategist.


    Within hours of leaving his office, Mr Bannon was back at Breitbart, the right wing website he ran, presiding over the evening news conference.
    In interviews he made it clear he was not going quietly as he rounded on those he held responsible for his departure.


    The Trump presidency that we fought for, and won, is over," he told the Weekly Standard, a right-wing newspaper “We still have a huge movement, and we will make something of this Trump presidency," he continued.


    " But that presidency is over. It’ll be something else. And there’ll be all kinds of fights, and there’ll be good days and bad days, but that presidency is over.”
    He added: “I feel jacked up. Now I’ve got my hands back on my weapons,” he added as he vowed “Bannon the barbarian” would crush the opposition.
    he had earlier told Bloomberg he was going to "go to war" for Mr Trump outside the White House.


    “If there’s any confusion out there, let me clear it up: I’m leaving the White House and going to war for Trump against his opponents -- on Capitol Hill, in the media, and in corporate America,” he said.

    Sarah Huckabee Sanders, White House press secretary said Mr Bannon, 63, had departed “by mutual agreement”.


    The White House then issued a statement, saying that the decision was agreed by Mr Bannon and John Kelly, the chief of staff – a sign of Mr Kelly’s grappling to control the chaos, or perhaps simply to avoid Mr Trump having to put his name to the firing of the man who most connects him to his diehard supporters.
    Joel Pollack, Breitbart's editor at large, tweeted a one-word response to Mr Bannon’s departure: “War”.
    Mr Bannon was controversial from the start.


    Combative and unapologetic, the former Goldman Sachs financier was employed by Mr Trump as his campaign manager in August 2016, and described at the time as “the most dangerous political operative in America”.


    He urged Mr Trump to pursue a populist path, and pressed him to hammer Hillary Clinton as corrupt - reportedly coming up with the “lock her up” chant that reverberated around his rallies.


    It was Mr Bannon, with fellow hardliner Stephen Miller, who wrote Mr Trump’s inauguration speech – a dark and foreboding depiction of the “American carnage” that Mr Trump believed he had been elected to stop.




    He was often at odds with the "globalist" wing of the White House - Jared Kushner, Mr Trump's son-in-law; his wife Ivanka Trump; H.R. McMaster, the head of the national security council; and Gary Cohn, director of the national economic council.


    Mr Bannon reportedly referred to them in private as “the New Yorkers” and “the Democrats”, among more printable nicknames, and tried to steer his boss away from them and towards his own nationalist sympathisers.


    At first the president thought fondly of his flame-throwing ideologue, who was seen to wield immense behind-the-scenes power inside the White House.
    Saturday Night Live depicted him as the grim reaper, playing Mr Trump like a puppet - something that reportedly amused Mr Bannon, but enraged his boss.
    His departure had been described as imminent before, but since Charlottesville the drum beat of demise rose to a frenzy.




    Mr Trump was reported earlier this week to have not spoken face-to-face with Mr Bannon in over a week, and on Tuesday, at the now infamous press conference in which he defended white supremacists, Mr Trump could only offer a lukewarm endorsement, responding to a question about Mr Bannon's future with: "We'll see."


    That press conference sparked condemnation of a president never before seen in the United States – the heads of the military spoke out against their commander-in-chief, and the UN secretary-general voiced concern. Titans of industry who Mr Trump had so assiduously courted on the campaign trail deserted him in droves, leading to the folding of both his business advisory panels.




    On Friday the arts council resigned en masse – the first White House agency to do so.


    Political condemnation was also snowballing, leading astonished Americans to ask where this could all end.


    Bob Corker, a senior Republican loyalist and chair of the Senate foreign relations committee, who was considered for secretary of state, declared that "the president has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence that he needs to" in dealing with crises.


    And, while Mr Trump sought to shift Thursday from the white supremacists to the future of statues, he was criticised by Rupert Murdoch’s son James, in an email widely circulated.


    "I can't believe I have to write this: standing up to Nazis is essential; there are no good Nazis. Or Klansmen, or terrorists," he wrote.


    Rumblings of discontent from Mr Trump's staff grew so loud that the White House was forced to release a statement saying that Gary Cohn, Mr Trump's chief economic adviser, was not quitting.


    The Dow Jones suffered its worst day since May on Thursday, but rebounded slightly on the news that Mr Cohn, a former president of Goldman Sachs, was staying put.


    Mr Cohn will certainly not be crying over the departure of Mr Bannon. Mr Bannon perhaps sealed his own fate this week by telephoning a reporter with The American Prospect, a Left-wing publication, to contradict his boss - and suggest that he was deciding who was in and who was out in the state department.



    “There’s no military solution [to North Korea’s nuclear threats], forget it,” said Mr Bannon, directly undermining Mr Trump's vow to respond if attacked.
    Asked about his rivals at the departments of state, defence and treasury, who wanted to keep China on side by avoiding trade wars, Mr Bannon was unrepentant.


    “They’re wetting themselves,” he said. “I’m changing out people at East Asian Defense; I’m getting hawks in.”


    But Mr Bannon may not go quietly.


    One of the reasons Mr Trump was said to have delayed dismissing him was fear of “weaponising” Mr Bannon, if he was unleashed from the White House.

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    Citing unnamed "sources", CNN is saying that Sebastian Gorka, Doland Trump's deputy assistant, could be the next to go.
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    Seen as a hardliner, he was openly critical of Rex Tillerson, the secretary of state, when he suggested the US could negotiate with North Korea over nuclear weapons.


    But Mr Trump is reported to be a fan of Mr Gorka's combative style and his forthright defence of the administration in his media appearances.





    1:15amAnother White House departure

    Steve Bannon is not the only senior figure leaving the White House,according to Politico.


    George Sifakis, director of the Office of Public Liaison since March, is reportedly on his way out.


    A close friend and ally of Reince Preibus, the former White House chief of staff, Mr was an aide to George W Bush.





    8:51pmNigel Farage says Bannon will be missed







    8:22pmBannon meets billionaire donor to plot next steps

    Axios, the authoritative Washington website, reports that Mr Bannon met with billionaire Republican donor Bob Mercer to plan their next moves.


    They write:

    Bob Mercer and Steve Bannon had a five hour meeting Wednesday to plot out next steps, said a source withknowledge of the meeting.

    They plotted strategy going forward — both political and media strategy. The meeting was at Mercer's estate on Long Island. Mercer had dinner the next night at Bedminster with President Trump and a small group of donors. The source said Mercer and Bannon "remain strong supporters of President Trump's and his agenda."





    8:19pmDemocrat leader responds







    8:03pmFour down...




    This January 28 photo shows Donald Trump and his advisers inside the Oval Office. Of the six in the picture, only the president and vice president remain - Reince Priebus, Michael Flynn, Sean Spicer and Steve Bannon have all left.






    7:48pmBreitbart's editor-at-large responds to Steve Bannon's ouster




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    Bannon is wrong with that statement, just as he was wrong with his statement about no military option in North Korea. The Trump Presidency is not over, it's just getting started. Trump is Trump, he's not changing because of who works or does not work in the White House. This concern over who works with him or advises him has been long over-dramatized. Trump makes the call based on Trump opinion, Trump judgment, Trump goals to fix America. We may agree with a lot or most of them, we may disagree with some or dislike how he gets to the finish line from time to time, but this is Trump's Presidency, no one else's and it is just beginning. Look forward to and enjoy many changes for the better that will make our country great again.

    Oh, and this President Trump could use a little support along the way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Bannon is wrong with that statement, just as he was wrong with his statement about no military option in North Korea. The Trump Presidency is not over, it's just getting started. Trump is Trump, he's not changing because of who works or does not work in the White House. This concern over who works with him or advises him has been long over-dramatized. Trump makes the call based on Trump opinion, Trump judgment, Trump goals to fix America. We may agree with a lot or most of them, we may disagree with some or dislike how he gets to the finish line from time to time, but this is Trump's Presidency, no one else's and it is just beginning. Look forward to and enjoy many changes for the better that will make our country great again.

    Oh, and this President Trump could use a little support along the way!

    I disagree with several of your statements and I'll just leave it at that.

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    Globalists javanka win again - send the democrat kids home - no one voted for them - get rid of mcmasters too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artist View Post
    Globalists javanka win again - send the democrat kids home - no one voted for them - get rid of mcmasters too.
    Yep, now Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump, and Gen. McMasters will have much less resistance in their efforts to influence and manipulate policy.

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    Bannon is out for one reason, he said there was no military option against North Korea. It had nothing to do with Jared or Ivanka or Kelly or anyone else. Bannon told the media which is the same as telling the world including North Korea that the United States had no military option against North Korea, "they got us". This is not acceptable speak, can not be tolerated and can certainly not exist in the United States Government.

    We entered WWII only after Pearl Harbor because anti-war folks like Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford said they had toured Hitler's armies and weapons facilities and they were so advanced and so prepared that the US could never defeat them.

    We have fought these stupid wars defined as "conflicts" where we fight but without orders to win, we have invaded countries under declarations of war but with half ass commitments to control the country we invaded and conquered because of this or that stupidity like Iraq and Afghanistan where a President wants a victory to his credit but without the full price to actually win it.

    But to tell the world there is no military option for the US against North Korea is not only stupid, it is a lie. Of course, just as in WWII, we will need the Russians to defeat North Korea, China doesn't matter, they are the escape hatch for civilians, same as South Korea, what we need to defeat North Korea is Russia from the North.

    Trump appears to be the only person in DC who understands that, so thank God he is our President and has not sanctioned the sanctions on Russia, keeping our relationship whatever it is or can be still intact.

    Everyone makes mistakes, no one is perfect, but for a retired US Navy guy like Bannon to make such an outlandish statement to the world means he can not continue to work in this government at this time. He's free to express these opinions on a personal level through Brietbart, but not as a senior White House advisor to the President of the United States. Why he even thinks such a thing is a puzzle, why he would say it in a press interview is just inexplicable. Probably the biggest most dangerous OOPSY in White House History.
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    Judy wrote (excerpt):

    Bannon is out for one reason, he said there was no military option against North Korea. It had nothing to do with Jared or Ivanka or Kelly or anyone else.
    I can't believe you honestly think anyone actually believes that. Kushner and Ivanka have wanted Bannon out for some time now and have been pushing for it. As for Kelly, Trump just used him as the ax man. Kushner, Ivanka, and some others in the administration won and Bannon lost. IMO, we are big losers in this too and I'm sorry you can't see that.

    Bannon's end was already determined before his comments regarding North Korea. Reaching for excuses to justify Trump's firing of Bannon's doesn't work for me. Kelly knew he couldn't do anything about Kushner or Ivanka, but he could certainly do Trump's bidding and ax Bannon.

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    I'm sorry you can't see that it doesn't matter who is in the White House besides Donald J Trump. I'm sorry that you can't see that this President does things one way, and that's his way. I'm sorry that you can't see that unlike previous airhead Presidents who can't think for themselves because they never had an original thought to begin with, this President doesn't need advisors or guiders or handlers, he plays everyone who thinks he does.

    I don't think you'll ever figure it out, MW. And that's a shame, because what is going on is a tremendous historical event and you're missing the whole show because you're too busy picking spilled popcorn up off the floor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I'm sorry you can't see that it doesn't matter who is in the White House besides Donald J Trump. I'm sorry that you can't see that this President does things one way, and that's his way. I'm sorry that you can't see that unlike previous airhead Presidents who can't think for themselves because they never had an original thought to begin with, this President doesn't need advisors or guiders or handlers, he plays everyone who thinks he does.

    I don't think you'll ever figure it out, MW. And that's a shame, because what is going on is a tremendous historical event and you're missing the whole show because you're too busy picking spilled popcorn up off the floor.
    After reading your comment, four words come to mind: naive, fantasy, misguided, and misinformed. If I may, I would also like to throw in an often used expression: "Can't see the forest for the trees."

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    Hmmm, a few come to my mind in response such as a:

    Finger-pointer without a point.
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