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    Here is an article regarding the subject of Obama's fake birth certificate.

    Israel Insider is reporting that analysts working separately have determined the birth certificate posted on the Daily Kos website and later on Sen. Barack Obama's "Fight the Smears" campaign website is fraudulent, and now two different actions have been launched to try and obtain the truth about the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee's birth.

    The Israel Insider report said the two analysts it interviewed both have been "able to independently discern the name 'Maya Kassandra Soetoro' from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document." Maya is Obama's younger half-sister.

    The report follows a posting from another researcher, identified by the news publication as Techdude, that the birth certificate is a forgery because it originally documented the birth of a woman in the 1970s.

    Blogger Mitchell Langbert now has launched an online petition to the Federal Election Commission in which signers are asking the agency to "take responsibility to verify the eligibility of Mr. Barack H. Obama to be president of the United States."

    Wrote Langbert, "Mr. Obama has refused to produce a physical certified, stamped copy of his birth certificate. An electronically displayed imaged displayed by his official campaign website has alleged to have been a forgery. … We request that the FEC require Mr. Obama to authorize the FEC to obtain an official copy of his birth certificate."

    Ted Moran, who said he wished to be contacted at brotherbear@solomonsstables.org, said he also was launching a campaign to discern the truth about Obama's birth certificate.

    "I am looking for 50 brave men or women from 49 states and the District of Columbia to join me in suing the secretaries of state in our respective states to prevent them from posting the name Barak H. Obama on the November 2008 ballot until he presents incontrovertible proof that he is a … U.S. citizen," he said. "The secretaries of state are the ones who by placing a person or initiative on the ballot certify that the candidates or initiatives meet the legal requirements to be on the ballot.

    "The office of the president is simply too important to trust to someone other than a person whose loyalties are 100 percent American, and while it is impossible to read into the heart of a man or woman we do have the test our forefathers gave us. Which is this office is not to be entrusted to anyone but a natural U.S. citizen," he said.

    Multiple requests over a period of several days by WND to the Obama campaign for a comment or explanation of the birth certificate issue did not generate any response.

    The Israel Insider said, "The revelation that [the birth certificate] of Obama's own sister was evidently used to create the electronic forgery represents what supporters of this analysis claim is a 'smoking gun' that appears to implicate Sen. Obama directly. Hawaii law limits access to vital records to family members only, a fact which slowed down the ability of researchers to compare the purported Obama 'birth certificate' – which displayed from the start a peculiar provenance and inexplicable features – to genuine specimens. Therefore, it would seem that either Maya K. Soetoro-Ng (as she is now called) supplied the document or its image to half-brother Barack or his campaign, or Obama/his campaign used it without her permission.

    "The stakes couldn't be higher. Even the Snopes anti-rumor site acknowledges that Obama's constitutional fitness to be president depends solely on his being born in the United States, because his mother – not yet 19 at the time of his birth – would not have had a sufficient number of years as an adult citizen, according to the laws prevailing at the time, to pass on 'natural born citizenship' automatically," the report said.

    "There have been reports, so far unconfirmed, that Obama was born outside the country, either in Kenya, his presumed father's native land, or in Canada. The fact that the Obama campaign has been touting as genuine a forgery since June 12 will likely increase pressure to not only account for the fake but produce a genuine paper birth certificate. Obama, in his book 'Dreams from My Father,' specifically mentioned having such a document in his possession, but it has not been submitted for public inspection or analysis if it in fact exists," the report said.

    The forensic computer investigators interviewed by the news publication concluded there are two obvious possibilities for the birth certificate image: A real certificate was scanned and digitally edited or a real certificate was scanned for the graphic layout, then blanked by soaking the document in solvent to remove the toner.

    The certificate was published by the Daily Kos June 12 following initial reports questioning Obama's place of birth. He's stated he was born in Hawaii, but if that was not the case, his citizenship could be uncertain, since his father was not a citizen and his mother was not old enough to pass along American citizenship automatically.

    The issue originally was raised by Jim Geraghty, reporting on the Campaign Spot, a National Review blog. He cited the "unlikely" possibility that Obama's 1961 birth was not within the U.S.

    At the time, he wrote, "If Obama were born outside the United States, one could argue that he would not meet the legal definition of natural-born citizen … because U.S. law at the time of his birth required his natural-born parent (his mother) to have resided in the United States for 10 years, at least [f]ive of which had to be after the age of 16.'"

    He then pointed out Ann Dunham, Obama's mother, was 18 when Obama was born, "so she wouldn't have met the requirement of five years after the age of 16."

    When the Daily Kos website posted an image that appeared to be Obama's birth certificate, Geraghty announced he was satisfied.

    The presumptive Republican nominee for president, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., already has gone through a similar challenge, and the U.S. Senate responded with a resolution in April declaring him to be a "'natural born Citizen' under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States."

    The article declares "no person except a natural born citizen … shall be eligible to the office of president."

    McCain was challenged because he was born to two U.S. citizens in the Panama Canal Zone.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php? ... geId=71763

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    Hi Skippy,

    Thanks for all the info. The pioneer of this whole birth certificate investigation is texasdarlin. I will sure to send her a link to the site you found.

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    Dr. Jerome Corsi has been doing a detailed investigation into Obama and has been tracking his birth certificate. At this point in time, it is believed that Hussein HOLDS A DUAL CITIZENSHIP IN ASIA.

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    Please don't tell me you can have divided loyaltys and be president of the United States of America
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    THE MEDIA HAS IGNORED HUSSEIN'S CITIZENSHIP!!!!

    Senator Barack Obama is a citizen of Kenya, Part One

    Comments? andymart20@aol.com

    NEWS FROM:
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    ATTENTION: ASSIGNMENT/DAYBOOK EDITORS

    ANNOUNCEMENT OF BLOCKBUSTER CHICAGO NEWS CONFERENCE DISCLOSING THAT UNDER KENYAN CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, BARACK OBAMA IS A KENYAN CITIZEN:

    (CHICAGO)(February 8, 2007) Chicago-based Internet journalist, broadcaster and critic Andy Martin will hold a news conference Friday, February 9th at 11:00 A.M. to announce that U. S. Senator Barack Obama is a citizen of Kenya and became a citizen of Kenya under the Independence Constitution of Kenya in 1963. Obama has never renounced his Kenyan citizenship. He is also a U. S. Citizen.

    [b]“For our ‘Obama Week’ leading up to Barry O’s announcement on Saturday that he feels qualified to lead the free world, ContrarianCommentary.com unleashed a worldwide team of constitutional law experts to delve into Kenyan law and the question of Obama’s citizenship. They were also participating in our CIA-style psychological profile of Obama that will be released Saturday in Chicago. And what we discovered was amazing, a political blockbuster,â€

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    So far, the info makes him a citizen of the U.S., Kenya and Indonesia.

    Barry had to be an Indonesian Citizen to Attend Indonesian State Run Schools

    There have been questions all along about Barack Obama and his citizenship. He keeps the questions going by not revealing a proper birth certificate.

    However, historian Judah Benjamin wrote an article for noquarterusa.net today covering all of these questions in a very fair and even manner. The major point that comes out of his lengthy analysis is that in order for Barack to attend the Government schools that he did, he would have had to have been the adopted legal son, or warga negara Indonesia of Lolo Soetoro.

    The point Mr. Benjamin made convincingly is that during the sixties, when Indonesia was a Police State, it was necessary to have certain identity papers, called Student KTP to attend the Indonesian State recognized Schools he attended,and which Foreign children were not permitted to attend. They were not international schools.

    Mr Benjamin continued:"No journalist has denied that the SD Asisi Record contains the following information: He was enrolled on January 1st 1968, given Serial No 203 and placed in Class 1 B. His Religion is given as Islam, his Nationality Indonesian, his Father's Name as L Soetoro Ma., his Father's Occupation as Official, Director General's Office TNI [Topography Division Indonesian Army] and his Name as Barry Soetoro."

    It is Mr Benjamin's considered conclusion that "there is clear prima facie evidence that Senator Barack Hussein Obama has held at least two Citizenships, American and Indonesian." Dual citizenship is a clearcut cause for ineligibility to run for POTUSA, under Article II of the Constitution.

    http://hubpages.com/hub/Obamas-Dual-Citizenship-Problem

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    Names his religion as Islam, Why is the news not reporting this...send it to Glenn Beck I'll bet he will report it! At least i'm pretty sure he will investigate it.
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    Dual citizenship is a clearcut cause for ineligibility to run for POTUSA, under Article II of the Constitution.
    Then Bill Richardson had no business running for president either. Isn't he also a citizen of the USA AND Mexico? I heard that he was before he started running for Pres.
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