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    I hope when all the final votes are in that Trump wins the popular vote, however, the way it looks now, he may not, but he will still be our new President because of the wisdom of the Founders to incorporate an Electoral College process for selecting the President of the United States into the United States Constitution.

    Now lets get busy and turn California and New York .... RED AGAIN!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    I would like the Popular Vote to determine the election.

    No more electoral vote, it is outdated and should be terminated. The handful of electoral voters in each State have too much power to go against the WILL of the people. . .
    For the fourth time in American history, the president-elect lost the popular vote. Credit the electoral college

    Los Angeles Times‎ - 2 days ago
    For only the fourth time in U.S. history, the presidential campaign has ended with an ...
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    How many of Hillary's votes were cast by illegal aliens, dead people, people who voted more than once...and cheaters? I doubt she won the popular vote. Only way to prove is to verify each and every vote was cast by a LEGAL US Citizen and cast one time.

    Obama told the illegals to go vote!

    This is why we need a better system and Voter ID. I still think much improvement needs to be made.

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    Hopefully this will clear up any misconceptions some folks have about the Electoral College Vote process:

    The Truth of the Electoral College Vs. Popular Vote

    By Robin Rowan, Editor-in-Chief
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    November 14, 2016


    Why We Use the Electoral Vote. And Why it is Important.

    The Founding Fathers got this right.

    Established by our Founding Fathers in order to protect rural states, the Constitution assigns each state a number of “electors” equal to the combined total of the state’s Senate and House of Representatives delegations. House of Representatives are designated by population, which gives more populated states more electoral votes, but does not unfairly leave out rural areas. At present, the number of electors per state ranges from three to 54, for a total of 538.

    The popular vote in each state gives all the assigned electoral votes to that one candidate.
    Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in only 19 out of 50 states. She only won the popular vote nationwide by 230,055.

    New York and California were won overwhelmingly by Clinton. In California a total of 8,739,715 votes were cast. 5,488,261 of those votes were for Hillary Clinton.

    The total number of votes cast in the States of Alabama and Tennessee and Arkansas was 5,320,766.

    In the 2016 election, the number of votes passed in California, only for Clinton, were more than the TOTAL votes cast for ALL candidates in Tennessee, Alabama, and Arkansas COMBINED!

    Here is the problem. If you look at the popular vote alone, it gives the “big city” the power of the vote and leaves the rest of the country out. Should the big cities in liberal states be determining who the President is over the farmers, rural areas, and great states that don’t have large cities with millions of people in them? No.

    Of those 5.3 million votes cast in Alabama, Tennessee and Arkansas, 3.3 million were for Donald Trump. Yes, he won those states and 31 other states overwhelmingly.

    If we did not have the Electoral College, the voters in California and New York would determine who our President is, leaving many of the states without large cities with no voice at all.

    The Electoral College, Electing a President on electoral votes rather than popular votes gives a voice to rural America, gives a voice to smaller states, it gives a voice to the heartland.

    If the facts are used, and not emotional conjecture, there is no argument to be made for getting rid of the Electoral College.

    California alone should not be allowed to elect the President of the United States. That would be likely if the United States elected our President based on the popular vote.

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    Donald Trump is going to turn a lot of blue states red in the next four years, and I think he'll turn California and New York red before this is over.
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    Hillary Clinton's Popular Vote Lead Over Donald Trump Now Exceeds 1.5 Million Votes

    ABC News - ‎6 hours ago‎
    It's been nearly two weeks since the November 8 general election, but the results have not remained static as ballots continue to be counted.
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    How many votes are cast for HRC by illegal aliens, dead people and cheaters? Until they check the registrations and those votes where made by US Citizens who are ALIVE, I do not believe she won popular vote.

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    Hillary Clinton's lead in popular vote nears 2 million

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    By Theodore Schleifer, CNN
    Updated 8:05 PM ET, Wed November 23, 2016

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/23/politics/hillary-clinton-popular-vote/index.html
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