Thread: RECRUIT ILLEGALS TO FIGHT OUR WARS : COMMENTARY

Recruit illegals to fight our wars?

By: DAVE PATTERSON - Commentary
North County Times
July1, 2007

If the reader was wondering why our congressmen won't do what's necessary to get their hands around illegal immigration in this country ---- that is, to go after the employers ---- it's because our congressmen are working to do the same at the federal level. Congress wants to hire illegal aliens to do our dirty work and fight for us in Iraq.

A little known provision of the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act being pushed by Congress, as part of the latest immigration legislation, allows illegal aliens who enlist in the military for two years a direct path to legal residency and citizenship.

Traditionally America has assimilated people with open arms, those that contribute to our nation's economic progress. However, to ask someone else's kids to go fight a war that American kids won't fight is unconscionable and must be stopped now. There are many reasons that we shouldn't ask foreign citizens to fight our wars, including the question of their true allegiance. The Defense Department is already having trouble controlling some foreign enlistees that have formed gangs in Iraq. Imagine what we will do with combat-trained specialists in counterinsurgency leading new gangs in our inner cities.

There also are valid reasons that our own children aren't volunteering to fight in Iraq, such as no connection between Saddam and 9/11, no weapons of mass destruction and to prevent Iraq from becoming what it has now become, a training ground for al-Qaida. Thus our American children are not enlisting to fight in Iraq because few of us now believe the war to be the noble cause that President Bush and Congress portrayed it to be. With the passing of the DREAM Act, America will offer citizenship to illegal immigrants willing to fight for us, while our children enjoy the pool, barbecues and beaches.

While our military recruiters cruise the streets of Mexico City, Tijuana and Laredo looking for candidates to serve and die in Iraq, the cost of recruiting has almost doubled to $2 billion since 2002. Our military is stretched to the breaking point, our soldiers stop-gapped into serving three and four times in combat and our National Guard and reserves depleted. At our current military manning levels, the Iraq war becomes unsustainable in April 2008. Congress is so desperate to fill the military ranks in Iraq without instituting a draft that they are willing to give away American citizenship to do it. The DREAM Act is designed to get Congress off the hook for the Vietnam repeat that the Iraq war has now become.

We should be ashamed that any American would be willing to ask someone besides American youth to fight an American war. Before we hit the moral bottom, we must act by contacting our congressmen to demand that they strike this provision in the DREAM Act. It is my belief that if this provision of the DREAM Act passes, America will have plumbed the depths of hypocrisy, and

we will have surrendered our status as a good and upstanding people.

Ramona resident Dave Patterson is a member of the San Diego Veterans for Peace (www.sdvfp.org).

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I may be wrong, but I read a while back, that the new immigrants that got off the ships coming here, were met at the port, to enlist them for one of the WW's....don't remember if it was WW1 or WW2.

So, these illegals may be used for war, cheap labor, our government's misguided thinking they will booster S.S. all of this is just using the illegals ...... but they aren't thinking that this also puts Americans out of work, depresses wages, flooding cities and towns, etc.

I read an item last week that said, the elder blacks were telling the younger blacks to NOT join the armed services.....I haven't read anything on other races, but yes....our government is looking to put whoever on the front lines.

A Vietnam vet friend of mine told me that this war is being fought like the Vietnam war.
They got our kids and soldiers hands tied and are keeping them tied by by threat of court marshal or prosecution threats. He also said if they were allowed to do what they were trained to do, this war would of already been over. They are unsure of what they are suppose to do there and are always second guessing their moves and reactions. Sometimes its to late by the time they think about course of action. Who wants to join a military that don't allow theri troops to fight!

WHY WOULD ANYONE THINK GIVING ILLEGALS MILITARY TRAINING IS A GOOD IDEA?

LATINO GANGS ALREADY ENLIST MEMBERS INTO THE MILITARY IN ORDER TO GET MILITARY TRAINING THEY CAN USE FOR GANG PURPOSES.

DO NOT SUPPORT THIS NONSENSE!

This is a move straight out of the Roman empire. It destroyed their civilization...it will sure end up doing the same to us.

Rome's Barbarian Mercenaries - Surrounded by enemies, the Romans increasingly relied on barbarians to fill their legions’ depleted ranks—with disastrous consequences.

http://www.historynet.com/magazines/mhq/7311986.html

Originally Posted by Steve

WHY WOULD ANYONE THINK GIVING ILLEGALS MILITARY TRAINING IS A GOOD IDEA?

LATINO GANGS ALREADY ENLIST MEMBERS INTO THE MILITARY IN ORDER TO GET MILITARY TRAINING THEY CAN USE FOR GANG PURPOSES.

DO NOT SUPPORT THIS NONSENSE!

Bingo!!!! You've got it exactly right Steve! It's insane to allow illegals to join our military.There's a lot of reasons for this but there's too many unknowns to fill our military with other than Americans.I didn't agree with this policy when I was serving and I don't agree with it now.J.M.O.

G.I. Joe wrote on Jul 1, 2007 2:56 PM:

" Most Illegal Aliens have at best a sixth grade education from their country. That translates into a third grade education in this country. Most Illegal Aliens do not have a perfect command of the English Language so what good will they be in today's highly mechanized and technical Army. Wait I know! Hey Pedro! You have the Point! "

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Originally Posted by ChromeDome

Originally Posted by Steve

WHY WOULD ANYONE THINK GIVING ILLEGALS MILITARY TRAINING IS A GOOD IDEA?

LATINO GANGS ALREADY ENLIST MEMBERS INTO THE MILITARY IN ORDER TO GET MILITARY TRAINING THEY CAN USE FOR GANG PURPOSES.

DO NOT SUPPORT THIS NONSENSE!

Bingo!!!! You've got it exactly right Steve! It's insane to allow illegals to join our military.There's a lot of reasons for this but there's too many unknowns to fill our military with other than Americans.I didn't agree with this policy when I was serving and I don't agree with it now.J.M.O.

ABSOLUTELY!!!!! ...NO!!!!....DO NOT SUPPORT THIS NONSENSE!!