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    LOL! Go read page 1 of the thread and catch up. The whole discussion started about the difference between Brat's 3 in 1 bill, the thread subject, versus the Raise Act, my preference over Brat's bill. Maybe next time before you inject your opinions into a discussion, you might suit up for the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    MANDATORY FINES TO EMPLOYERS! HIT THEM IN THE WALLET!
    Tree Company to Pay $95 MILLION for Hiring Illegal Aliens

    Significant Increases in I-9 Fines and Immigration ... - E-Verify & I-9 News

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    Jul 19, 2016 - The maximum penalty for the unlawful employment of an immigrant worker will increase from $3,200 to $4,313
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    LOL! Go read page 1 of the thread and catch up. The whole discussion started about the difference between Brat's 3 in 1 bill, the thread subject, versus the Raise Act, my preference over Brat's bill. Maybe next time before you inject your opinions into a discussion, you might suit up for the game.
    You isolated E-Verify and turned it into a debate with your opposition to it.

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    Yeah, I don't want to "FORCE" our employers to use E-Verify if they don't want to. Our employers aren't the problem, illegal aliens are the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I'd still rather see the RAISE ACT passed that doesn't include E-Verify than Brat's bill that does. We get a whole lot more with the Raise Act than with Brat's bill, so it's VERY ODD to me that anyone here would be supporting the lesser bill that rumors already indicate will be offset with a DACA Amnesty.
    That's not what you said here:

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    It's just been clarified by NumbersUSA email alert today that Brat's 3 in 1 bill has nothing to do with amnesty for DACA's or anyone else. It's a no amnesty bill to eliminate chain migration, visa lottery and pass e-verify. We're getting bad information.
    Make up your mind, please.

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    JohnDoe2 replied that they would add the DACA Amnesty to the Brat Bill at the last minute right before the vote.

    When you interject yourself into a discussion, you need to read the whole thing. Otherwise, you are unsuited for the game.

    My position is clear as a bell. I'm not a big fan of E-Verify, therefore I oppose the Brat 3 in 1 bill which contains E-Verify on its face, preferring the much broader RAISE ACT on its merits that does not contain E-Verify.

    Why you would prefer the flimsy little Brat bill because of E-Verify over the fantastic RAISE ACT is VERY ODD, especially when it's rumored that McCaul et al, NOT Brat, wants to use the skinny little flimsy Brat bill as a trade for DACA Amnesty.

    Very odd indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    JohnDoe2 replied that they would add the DACA Amnesty to the Brat Bill at the last minute right before the vote.

    When you interject yourself into a discussion, you need to read the whole thing. Otherwise, you are unsuited for the game.

    My position is clear as a bell. I'm not a big fan of E-Verify, therefore I oppose the Brat 3 in 1 bill which contains E-Verify on its face, preferring the much broader RAISE ACT on its merits that does not contain E-Verify.

    Why you would prefer the flimsy little Brat bill because of E-Verify over the fantastic RAISE ACT is VERY ODD, especially when it's rumored that McCaul et al, NOT Brat, wants to use the skinny little flimsy Brat bill as a trade for DACA Amnesty.

    Very odd indeed.
    What is odd is your failure to comprehend what I actually said. I never discussed or spoke in support of any bill over another bill. All I really spoke on is my support for E-Verify. So where you keep coming up with this "why you would prefer" garbage is coming from left field.

    Typical Judy tactic .... deflection through obfuscation.

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    And like usual you've wasted everyone's time taking a thread totally off its course into your off the rails sidetrack to attack and insult me because I'm not a big fan of E-Verify. I'm a HUUUUGE fan of the RAISE ACT to solve our illegal immigration problem, not Brat's bill which has no interior enforcement, no new ICE agents, no authorization for state and local law enforcement to engage in immigration enforcement, no judges, no prosecutors, no wall funding, no green card reductions, etc., etc.

    The RAISE ACT needs to be the main thing we're talking about, it's a massive comprehensive enforcement bill that also reduces legal immigration by 50%, eliminates the Visa lottery, and ends chain migration for all immigration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    And like usual you've wasted everyone's time taking a thread totally off its course into your off the rails sidetrack to attack and insult me because I'm not a big fan of E-Verify. I'm a HUUUUGE fan of the RAISE ACT to solve our illegal immigration problem, not Brat's bill which has no interior enforcement, no new ICE agents, no authorization for state and local law enforcement to engage in immigration enforcement, no judges, no prosecutors, no wall funding, no green card reductions, etc., etc.

    The RAISE ACT needs to be the main thing we're talking about, it's a massive comprehensive enforcement bill that also reduces legal immigration by 50%, eliminates the Visa lottery, and ends chain migration for all immigration.
    Okay, I gave you the last word. Are you done ranting now?

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    Oh no, I'll rant about passing the RAISE ACT until it passes. Why aren't you and JD2 doing likewise? Very odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Oh no, I'll rant about passing the RAISE ACT until it passes. Why aren't you and JD2 doing likewise? Very odd.
    "Groups like Facebook's FWD.us are using emails, text messages, and social media to rally illegal aliens and their supporters to call Congress to demand "Dream Act" passage by Dec. 9!"

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