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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockfish
    Ron Paul to get rid of the 'federal reserve' and implement the FAIR tax. He'll be damn good for that. Question is will the asses in the MSM allow RP to participate in the Presidential debates?
    He would not adopt the "fair tax"...he's for the "no tax"....the fed would be toast if the prez has power to do that.

    Paul will be back as a congressman NOT running on a third party ticket.


    He had a shot but the GOP faithful are idiots and easily manipulated by the "talk jocks" and we end up with McAmnesty , who, like the other Neo-conservatives running for the nomination will all be destroyed in the general election....

    Paul as the only true constitutionalist and advocate for limited government would have been the only real chance to beat the socialists/big gov statists/globalists in the general election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj45lvr
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockfish
    Ron Paul to get rid of the 'federal reserve' and implement the FAIR tax. He'll be damn good for that. Question is will the asses in the MSM allow RP to participate in the Presidential debates?
    He would not adopt the "fair tax"...he's for the "no tax"....the fed would be toast if the prez has power to do that.

    Paul will be back as a congressman NOT running on a third party ticket.


    He had a shot but the GOP faithful are idiots and easily manipulated by the "talk jocks" and we end up with McAmnesty , who, like the other Neo-conservatives running for the nomination will all be destroyed in the general election....

    Paul as the only true constitutionalist and advocate for limited government would have been the only real chance to beat the socialists/big gov statists/globalists in the general election.
    Libertarians are globalists but without goverment control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Once_A_Democrat
    Quote Originally Posted by fj45lvr
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockfish
    Ron Paul to get rid of the 'federal reserve' and implement the FAIR tax. He'll be damn good for that. Question is will the asses in the MSM allow RP to participate in the Presidential debates?
    He would not adopt the "fair tax"...he's for the "no tax"....the fed would be toast if the prez has power to do that.

    Paul will be back as a congressman NOT running on a third party ticket.


    He had a shot but the GOP faithful are idiots and easily manipulated by the "talk jocks" and we end up with McAmnesty , who, like the other Neo-conservatives running for the nomination will all be destroyed in the general election....

    Paul as the only true constitutionalist and advocate for limited government would have been the only real chance to beat the socialists/big gov statists/globalists in the general election.
    Libertarians are globalists but without goverment control.
    Ron Paul may be libertarian on many issues, but he IS NOT a globalist! See here--
    http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/am...d-sovereignty/

    There are other issues where he differs from the libertarian view as well. So he's not perfect, but he's leaps and bounds ahead of McCain, Obama, or Clinton! Why do you guys keep ragging on him?!?!

    I don't believe he will run on a Libertarian ticket as he has stated many times that he would NOT run on another party ticket. I will PROBABLY vote for Chuck Baldwin myself, all things being in November as they are now. But MY number one choice (as well as Chuck Baldwin's) remains Ron Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imblest
    Quote Originally Posted by Once_A_Democrat
    Quote Originally Posted by fj45lvr
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockfish
    Ron Paul to get rid of the 'federal reserve' and implement the FAIR tax. He'll be damn good for that. Question is will the asses in the MSM allow RP to participate in the Presidential debates?
    He would not adopt the "fair tax"...he's for the "no tax"....the fed would be toast if the prez has power to do that.

    Paul will be back as a congressman NOT running on a third party ticket.


    He had a shot but the GOP faithful are idiots and easily manipulated by the "talk jocks" and we end up with McAmnesty , who, like the other Neo-conservatives running for the nomination will all be destroyed in the general election....

    Paul as the only true constitutionalist and advocate for limited government would have been the only real chance to beat the socialists/big gov statists/globalists in the general election.
    Libertarians are globalists but without goverment control.
    Ron Paul may be libertarian on many issues, but he IS NOT a globalist! See here--
    http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/am...d-sovereignty/

    There are other issues where he differs from the libertarian view as well. So he's not perfect, but he's leaps and bounds ahead of McCain, Obama, or Clinton! Why do you guys keep ragging on him?!?!

    I don't believe he will run on a Libertarian ticket as he has stated many times that he would NOT run on another party ticket. I will PROBABLY vote for Chuck Baldwin myself, all things being in November as they are now. But MY number one choice (as well as Chuck Baldwin's) remains Ron Paul.
    I agree that Ron Paul is leaps and bounds ahead of the three liberals/stooges the CFR has picked for U.S. What will happen to America if/when the Marxist, Communist, Socialist gets in the WH.

    I would gladely take Ron Paul over the goons they are displaying on the MSM comedy shows.
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    The libertarian Party has missed the boat.... It should be the think tank for the Republicans....NOT the no chance of winning party that might get 10% OF THE VOTE ON IT'S BEST DAY..........

    Please stop cosigning each others bull feathers....

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    I stand corrected on Barr . After reading 4 different articles on him late last night , they all say the same time . He's no better than the 3 CFR puppets . i'll post alink on Malkins articles which bangs Barr right out to left field .
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    thanks for the Malkin link

    Quote Originally Posted by tencz57
    I stand corrected on Barr . After reading 4 different articles on him late last night , they all say the same time . He's no better than the 3 CFR puppets . i'll post alink on Malkins articles which bangs Barr right out to left field .
    http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/12/th ... candidacy/
    I will not vote for a Ron Paul/Bob Barr ticket.

    The Libertarian Party essentially believes in unlimited legal immigration. I do not. I favor a return to more traditional (and much lower) legal immigration numbers.

    The Libertarian Party has in the past supported a path to citizenship for illegal aliens. That is effectively amnesty. That is exactly what Bob Barr supports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Once_A_Democrat
    Not me!! If this is your main issue then I don't see how anybody would vote for Ron Paul. He is a libertarian and there nothing worst than a libertarian unless you're for making all the illegals - legal and allow more in. Just take away the welfare and open the flood gate
    Saying it over and over won't make it true.

    Paul is a Republican with libertarian leanings. He left the GOP briefly to run on the LP ticket because he saw, even in the 80's, that the GOP was moving too far left.

    Open borders is not something he has ever supported, and it was in fact a very sore spot with the Libertarians who didn't support him when he was nominated.

    Paul didn't vote for the fence, but he did say he would build it since the law said it should be built.

    But of course, I've told you this repeatedly. You don't like Paul and that's fair enough, but you lose credibility on all issues when you intentionally misstate his positions.
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    One thing for sure is McCain/Clinton/Obama want to give amnesty to upwards of 30 million illegals, and at the same time they want you and me to pay for their living expenses, education, medical care, diapers, etc.

    I agree with Paul that once you take away the incentives these magots will self deport.

    I will absolutely vote a Paul/Barr ticket over one of the three clowns mentioned above. Paul will never allow a federal dollar to go to an illegal.

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    Symptom Not the Disease

    I said this before..and I'll say it again. Illegal immigration is a symptom...not the disease. The disease is Big Government and the circumventing of the US Constitution.

    You can build a fence and tax we the people to death to do it, you can impose the REAL ID, or you can attack the disease...by voting for candidates that advocate a return to the rule of law, the US Constitution.

    In doing so, most of the symptoms of a government gone wild will begin to disappear. Do we continue to tap dance around the real issue?

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