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    Jonathan,

    You can't legislate morality. Look at the disasterous "War on Drugs" that we've been fighting since the infamous Marijuana Tax Act of 1937. Total failure, and the enrichment of criminal cartels with untold BILLIONS of $$$.

    Aversion to things like adultery was caused by religious influences, not political ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USPatriot
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan
    I side with most conservatives who support the Patriot Act and Real ID.

    In some cases we need more laws and in other cases we need less laws.

    Though I am not religious, I also think adultery and some other moral examples of decadence and degeneracy should be criminalized.

    In summary, I think Western Civilization has become far too libertine and decadent. I we need liberty under the law. Too much liberty results in licentiousness and anarchy and makes us vulnerable to cultural and literal invasion.
    Now I understand why you are trying to sway people from Ron Paul.
    Patrick Buchanan best summaries my views on the decline of the moral basis of Western Civilization in his book "Death of the West".
    [b] If we do not insist on Voter ID, how can we stop illegals from voting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinestrawGuys
    Jonathan,

    You can't legislate morality. Look at the disastrous "War on Drugs" that we've been fighting since the infamous Marijuana Tax Act of 1937. Total failure, and the enrichment of criminal cartels with untold BILLIONS of $$$.

    Aversion to things like adultery was caused by religious influences, not political ones.
    Of course you can impose sanctions on morality. There are laws prohibiting theft and dishonesty (fraud and perjury), and there used to be laws that sanctioned sexual misconduct. Religious and political agendas have often coincided.
    [b] If we do not insist on Voter ID, how can we stop illegals from voting?

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    Jonathan wrote:
    Tell the whole truth if you really love the truth! These tactics are less than the standard of idealism that Ron Paul supporters are supposed to be known for.

    This post marginalizes the wider truth that Romney won the whole state. Ron Paul posters should tell the whole truth rather than isolated facts that tend to mislead the public into ignoring Romney's overall victory in Maine and also undermines the genuine viability of Romney over Paul.

    Selective reporting of the news has the effect of marginalizing the truth.

    By engaging in these tactics, Ron Paul supporters are diminishing the chances that conservatives will choose Ron Paul as a 3rd party candidate to oppose McCain in the event he becomes the Republican nominee.
    I just posted the article from the FORT FAIRFIELD JOURNAL, I didn't author it.
    That is what we do here.

    If you like I have a folder full of anti Romney articles that I can start posting when I have had enough bashing from the Romney people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan
    Quote Originally Posted by USPatriot
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan
    I side with most conservatives who support the Patriot Act and Real ID.

    In some cases we need more laws and in other cases we need less laws.

    Though I am not religious, I also think adultery and some other moral examples of decadence and degeneracy should be criminalized.

    In summary, I think Western Civilization has become far too libertine and decadent. I we need liberty under the law. Too much liberty results in licentiousness and anarchy and makes us vulnerable to cultural and literal invasion.
    Now I understand why you are trying to sway people from Ron Paul.
    Patrick Buchanan best summaries my views on the decline of the moral basis of Western Civilization in his book "Death of the West".
    And I bet you didn't vote for Pat because "evil might win"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan
    No, when you suggest I would be happier in Cuba or Russia, you are putting me into the opposite extreme. During the era of the Founding Fathers the laws governing moral behavior were much stricter than the libertine standards of today where anything goes and where we believe "if it feels good, do it". I'd need to do some checking, but I think that adultery and sexual deviancy probably were criminal offenses in the days of Jefferson.
    Prior to the Revolutionary War we were under strict rule of the Monarchy of Great Britain. The Monarchy, if you read some of the books when we were colonies, had strict rules against adultry and other privacies. Liberty gives us freedoms for moral people when you remove those freedoms, because of adultry, you punish the moral people! Your view seems to be in line with the Monarchy of old, and when Catholicism was the government, in result no freedom of religion!
    "As has happened before in our history, if you have open borders poor country governments will pay people to move here, promising them a better life in the New World"*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan
    That's the same argument the Dems use about criminalizing illegal immigration. But in actually, it would be "attrition by enforcement".
    Adultery and other unmentionables have destroyed the American family and now our civilization is heading for its imminent demise. . .unless we wake up and restore many of our stricter ancient laws that made us into a civilized society.
    What does this have to do with the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT??

    If people want stricter laws against porn or alcohol or whatever at the local level, they can make stricter laws. I've been in "dry counties" before when I traveled. Under the Constitution, the federal government is not authorized to run people's lives. If you are seriously calling for more federal control over individuals' lives, you should consider switching to the Democrat Party.

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    Lets face facts a pro war candidate won't win the general election. McCain won't win Mitt won't win. Sure it plays well in the primary but when the rest of Americans vote Mitt and McCain are unelectable, I think we're going to have a third party win this time. So if you want to waste your vote on Mitt do so it's your vote. The RP people know this and think he will be that third party candidate. We have to keep the fire burning long enough to catch on in the real election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexcastro
    He will be in the race long past Huckabee, that's for sure! He received another 5 milliion for this quarter. He's not going anywhere anytime soon. Let's consentrate on getting MC CAIN out. By the way how does MCCain have the money to stay in the race? Didn't think he had the money now all of a sudden he does. What gives!? GO GO Ron Paul!!!!!!!!!
    I WAS ASKING MYSELF THE SAME THING. WHERE IS JOH McCAIN GETTING ALL HIS MONEY FOR ADS? I've seen several on CNN and FOX news breaks. I thought he was out of money. I bet he is getting chuncks of money from LaRaza and other groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturmruger
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan
    No, when you suggest I would be happier in Cuba or Russia, you are putting me into the opposite extreme. During the era of the Founding Fathers the laws governing moral behavior were much stricter than the libertine standards of today where anything goes and where we believe "if it feels good, do it". I'd need to do some checking, but I think that adultery and sexual deviancy probably were criminal offenses in the days of Jefferson.
    Prior to the Revolutionary War we were under strict rule of the Monarchy of Great Britain. The Monarchy, if you read some of the books when we were colonies, had strict rules against adultery and other privacies. Liberty gives us freedoms for moral people when you remove those freedoms, because of adultery, you punish the moral people! Your view seems to be in line with the Monarchy of old, and when Catholicism was the government, in result no freedom of religion!
    I wasn't talking about the pre-revolutionary days but rather the post-revolutionary era when there were laws sanctioning against adultery and other forms of sexual deviancy. There was much less sexual freedom in the early 1800's than now. Too much liberty is anarchy. We must have liberty within the boundaries of the law.
    [b] If we do not insist on Voter ID, how can we stop illegals from voting?

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