Thread: Schip for illegals?

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

Well we will have to try to stop it in the Senate!!
Start calling your Senators

Will do.

Smokers paying an additional 61 cents per pack of cigarettes to finance a SCHIP expansion under the Democrat proposal would cost a working class family with two adult smokers hundreds of dollars per year in additional federal tobacco taxes alone.

Not to mention in each state they are funding a host of things.
I'm sick to death of always targeting smokers to pay for everything and then they're the first tossed to the curb when they need help whether it's smoking related or not. Why target one group when I'm sure there's tons of other un-healthy things they could hit and spread the burden around that cost health care alot more, for alot longer, than smokers illnesses. I wish they'd have the guts to just make it illegal......but gee, then where would we get the taxes from. Gosh and maybe have to admit that smoking isn't the ONLY un-healthy thing out there. What other group could they then ban to the dumpsters out back in shame of their freedoms? Can ya picture a bunch of people huddled in the cold for their chocolate bar, pecan pie, cookie, or something because too much sugar leads to diabetes!!!!!! Running off to the bathroom to put a teaspoon of sugar in your coffee in shame. They say it's more addicting and dangerous than heroin! Diabetes cost us millions to treat people, not to mention the other devistating side effects of loss of limbs and wound care centers and all that....go get them. Hey it contributes to obesity, our kids are obviously hooked on it, personality disorders that sugar makes worse.....you name it, I'm sure with a short time of brief thought we can find a host of issues with anything to make it evil and bad and tax them for a change.

I don't believe it was ever really intended for U.S. citizens---it was just a way to give more benefits to our "undocumented guests."

Exactly......as they cut the benefits of our elderly and make them jump through hoops to get what little is left.

I mean think about this......how can we fund this program on the backs of a few people but we couldn't fund medicare when a much bigger portion was taken from everyone who worked through their life. We can fund I would venture to guess more children, than there are elderly, for 18-24 years on smokers tax....and can't manage elderly who have already paid in and everyone contributes.

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

Here's the list of blue dogs that should be contacted, it might help.


http://www.house.gov/ross/BlueDogs/Member%20Page.html

Thanks so much. I will keep that list handy. Good to know who they are.

It's disappointing that none of the major organizations such as FAIR, NumbersUSA, or CAPS seemed to have previous knowledge of these major changes so that organized opposition could have been mobilized.

They are trying to put everything through without amendments so that no one has a chance to read them.

Remember if our Country survives the 111 Congress, many will be up for election in 2010. Depending how they vote, inform the traitors up for election, that we are watching and not happy.

This will encourage endless waves of illegal immigration into this country which in effect is a backdoor amnesty. The Dream Act is next. These traitors in the so called Congress and the one who will be wasting space and taxpayer dollars in the Oval Office know an outright amnesty with the economy in tatters and millions of Americans losing their jobs, homes, pensions and health care would be unacceptable so they are doing it piece by piece. Obama has shown the only change will be bettering the lives of illegal aliens; not the American people. This government doesn't give a horse's ass about struggling Americans; but only about cheap labor and votes to maintain and expand their positions at the table of power.


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Illegal Immigrants and Families Making $61K Could Qualify for Federal Help Under SCHIP

Friday, January 16, 2009
By Matt Cover

(CNSNews.com) – The State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), the federal program designed to extend health coverage to the nation’s poorest children, would allow legal immigrants and middle class children – those from families making over $61,000 per year – access to a program originally intended for the poorest of the poor.

The Senate is poised to pass the legislation, which is on a fast track, to be ready for President-elect Barack Obama to sign when he takes office.

Members of the Senate Finance Committee marked up the Senate version of the bill Thursday, after the House overwhelming passed their version on Jan. 14.

Two previous versions have been vetoed by President Bush.

The bill would officially establish an income cap of 300 percent above the federal poverty line -- or $61,950 per year for a family of four. However, the bill allows for states to pay SCHIP benefits at incomes higher than 300 percent above poverty if they have sate laws or plans in place to cover kids above the 300 percent mark by the time the bill is signed.

Currently, only New Jersey is allowed to cover children from such families and only New York has passed a law expanding its coverage.

The bill also allows states to receive SCHIP funds if they expand the scope of their Medicaid coverage, something they can do on their own. If states choose to expand Medicaid coverage, they can cover children whose families make more than 300 percent of the poverty rate.

If states expand their Medicaid eligibility, by raising maximum income levels, they may use the SCHIP funds they receive to provide healthcare for the children of these new Medicaid families. This means that states may use Medicaid expansions to expand CHIP eligibility, because they can cover new Medicaid children with CHIP money.

Currently, nine states have expanded their Medicaid eligibility above 300 percent of the poverty level.

The bill also allows for immigrants, both legal and illegal, to access SCHIP funds, although illegal immigrants may only do so for 90 days.

The bill removes previous requirements, currently required under Medicaid, that mandate new enrollees provide photo identification and documentation proving citizenship, such as a green card or passport, when applying for SCHIP.

The new language strips this proposal and says that states can accept Social Security numbers as proof of citizenship, and that they must provide health coverage while those numbers are being verified. If a number cannot be verified, states must drop coverage after 90 days.

However, a Social Security number is the only proof of citizenship required under SCHIP and new enrollees are no longer required to offer proof of identification when enrolling. This provision would allow someone who has stolen a Social Security number to receive CHIP funds, so long as the theft is not discovered by the Social Security Administration – the agency responsible for tracking and issuing Social Security numbers.

The bill would also cover some parents of poor children as well as some single adults.

Currently, some states are allowed waivers to cover parents of poor children and some single adults, provisions which were eliminated by the Deficit Reduction Act of 2005.

The new SCHIP bill would allow state to continue using federal funds to cover parents of very poor children, but would phase out covering single adults.

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/a ... rcID=42026