Thread: So what is the BOTTOM LINE ?

The way I see it

We now control the house , at least for the next 2 years

Reid can pass his dream act , CIR and all the other goofy garbage in the senate but as long as it gets dumped in the house , We still win

Also Steve King of Iowa is now running the Immigration sub committee and Piglosi isn't there to stop him.
King is a uber hard liner on immigration control

Even though we are stuck with that moron Reid , he really has no power

he has enough power to block anything coming from the house thou , and that's a problem ....

on the bright side we did take control of many states ....

if more states go like arizona with SB 1070 we could see a tidal wave of states starting to fight illegal immgration , and from what i've read from ABC 15 , one of the deciding factors in brewers victory was her support of SB 1070 ....

Carly Fiorina's vanity candidacy for Senate shares a chunk of the blame for the Dems holding there.

Originally Posted by marquis

he has enough power to block anything coming from the house thou , and that's a problem ....

on the bright side we did take control of many states ....

if more states go like arizona with SB 1070 we could see a tidal wave of states starting to fight illegal immgration , and from what i've read from ABC 15 , one of the deciding factors in brewers victory was her support of SB 1070 ....

Yes , but it doesn't matter , any bill that came from the house if it did pass the senate would get the veto from the White house anyway

The country is basically a lame duck for the next 2 years now

Originally Posted by Justthefacts

Originally Posted by marquis

he has enough power to block anything coming from the house thou , and that's a problem ....

on the bright side we did take control of many states ....

if more states go like arizona with SB 1070 we could see a tidal wave of states starting to fight illegal immgration , and from what i've read from ABC 15 , one of the deciding factors in brewers victory was her support of SB 1070 ....

Yes , but it doesn't matter , any bill that came from the house if it did pass the senate would get the veto from the White house anyway

The country is basically a lame duck for the next 2 years now

Ditto..for the next two years, we can at least ensure amnesty will not pass. Basically, we are on defensive mode for the next two years until 2012.

Originally Posted by NoBueno

Originally Posted by Justthefacts

Originally Posted by marquis

he has enough power to block anything coming from the house thou , and that's a problem ....

on the bright side we did take control of many states ....

if more states go like arizona with SB 1070 we could see a tidal wave of states starting to fight illegal immgration , and from what i've read from ABC 15 , one of the deciding factors in brewers victory was her support of SB 1070 ....

Yes , but it doesn't matter , any bill that came from the house if it did pass the senate would get the veto from the White house anyway

The country is basically a lame duck for the next 2 years now

Ditto..for the next two years, we can at least ensure amnesty will not pass. Basically, we are on defensive mode for the next two years until 2012.

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i'm sick of being on the defensive mode , we out number them by large majorities as far as sentiment goes ...

it's time to kick ass and take numbers !!

Originally Posted by marquis

Originally Posted by NoBueno

Originally Posted by Justthefacts

Originally Posted by marquis

he has enough power to block anything coming from the house thou , and that's a problem ....

on the bright side we did take control of many states ....

if more states go like arizona with SB 1070 we could see a tidal wave of states starting to fight illegal immgration , and from what i've read from ABC 15 , one of the deciding factors in brewers victory was her support of SB 1070 ....

Yes , but it doesn't matter , any bill that came from the house if it did pass the senate would get the veto from the White house anyway

The country is basically a lame duck for the next 2 years now

Ditto..for the next two years, we can at least ensure amnesty will not pass. Basically, we are on defensive mode for the next two years until 2012.

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i'm sick of being on the defensive mode , we out number them by large majorities as far as sentiment goes ...

it's time to kick ass and take numbers !!

I agree with you 100% Marquis. I'm sick of it to. But right now, we are in a much better position than we were before this election. Under the circumstances, it's probably not a bad place to be.

Who knows, if we can get a couple moderate dems on our side in the Senate, we might be able to get some legislation passed.

Basically we are going to have gridlock for the next two years which is alot better than the Dems having a super majority and cramming their BS down our throats. What worries me is when the Republicans again and they will regain all three branches of government. No way do I forget what happened the last time under that idiot Bush. He is the reason why the Republicans lost control the first time. The fact that guys like McCain, Reid and the like still survived still doesn't sit well with me. It would have sent a far bigger message if those clowns got booted. Sure alot of bad incumbents lost, but it's not enough IMO.

It will never be enough until all illegals are deport and our laws get enforced. Immigration needs to return back to the way it was during the periods of 1920 - 1965 so we can better control it. We need to put an emphasis on migrating people to this country that actually bring some form of value to it. Instead of migrated 3rd world people that bring nothing to the table, we need to migrate high skilled immigrants who can make our country better. I'm talking doctors, scientists, entrepreneurs, etc, people that can make a real difference and do this country some much needed good. Doesn't that sound much better than importing the usual poverty and failure that just becomes a huge burden on the tax payers? So much money could be saved if we secured our borders, enforced our immigration laws, deported the criminal aliens among us and had an immigration policy that made sense.

Originally Posted by marquis

Originally Posted by NoBueno

Originally Posted by Justthefacts

Originally Posted by marquis

he has enough power to block anything coming from the house thou , and that's a problem ....

on the bright side we did take control of many states ....

if more states go like arizona with SB 1070 we could see a tidal wave of states starting to fight illegal immgration , and from what i've read from ABC 15 , one of the deciding factors in brewers victory was her support of SB 1070 ....

Yes , but it doesn't matter , any bill that came from the house if it did pass the senate would get the veto from the White house anyway

The country is basically a lame duck for the next 2 years now

Ditto..for the next two years, we can at least ensure amnesty will not pass. Basically, we are on defensive mode for the next two years until 2012.

]

i'm sick of being on the defensive mode , we out number them by large majorities as far as sentiment goes ...

it's time to kick ass and take numbers !!

Exactly, I feel like we've been on the defensive since day one. While the Republicans won back the house and almost the Senate, by no means do I trust them. The only reason they won is because America rejected socialism. It had nothing to do with embracing Republicanism. Republicans still suck, they just suck less than the Dems do, but until the RINO's get the boot and are unable to hijack the party anymore, I will never trust them.

There still needs to be a third party in this country. Hard to believe in a country that values freedom so much that we only have two parties to choose from that have a chance to win. It's ridiculous. I hate the notion that only rich people can win elections. How is a rich person going to relate to anything we the people have to go through? They can't because they live in their own little bubble, free from all the BS. They have no clue how we live or what we go through on a daily basis. We need to limit how much a politician can receive in campaign funds and corporations, unions and lobbyists should be prohibited from donating funds and influencing elections. Politicians should only be allowed to receive individual funds from the people and they should return back whatever they didn't use.

For once I want to see a middle class person make it. Someone who understands us, the little guy. Someone who is less likely to be corrupted by the Corporate American Cancer that has corrupted the beltway. I just don't trust these selfish rich pricks who are either former CEO's or lawyers.

I've said for years we must go into offense

Playing defense all the time sucks , besides that gives them the time to
solidify their power and add more and more illegals to our voting ranks
and into positions of power