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    The Solution for Preventing Illegal Immigration

    The best method for stopping illegal immigration is not by trying to persuade Congress to pass new enforcement laws, but by electing a new President who will pledge to implement stronger enforcement policies that are in harmony with the current existing laws. Most republican candidates promise that they will defend the United States against illegal immigration if the voters will elect them, but usually do nothing about it after they are in office. This "trick" works because people are willing to support candidates who give very ambiguous campaign promises such as, "I will secure the border" and "I want to fix the broken immigration system." The pro-enforcement community never demands that candidates publish their strategy for eliminating illegal immigration in exchange for their support. Maybe that should change. With over 15 presidential candidates running in the 2016 elections, and no clear winner in sight, I am sure that one of the candidates would be happy to sign a pledge to implement tough enforcement policies if doing so will greatly increase their voter support base just like it did for Donald Trump. Below are several policy suggestions.


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    * The federal government through the presidential office will give authority to any state, county, or local government that wants to help enforce immigration law. The states and local governments will act as "agents" of the federal government through the President Office. States and local governments can assist the federal government just like they do with murder, drugs, theft, and other crimes. They will be allowed to create their own enforcement policies, but will be required to use the United State Congress’ standards for who are legal residents and who are deportable aliens. The enforcement can be handled like any other unlawful trespassing law. They can decide to give jail time, fines, and even deport anyone trespassing in the United States.

    * The military and coast guard will assist the Border Patrol in protecting and securing the United States borders. Much of this can be training exercise for new recruits and the practice of how to use drone aircrafts.

    * Public schools, colleges, and universities will be required to submit the personal information of students who do not offer proof that they are legally in the United States into an ICE database. This action by itself will not prevent students from being able to attend school, but rather determine how much resources are drained by illegal immigrants.

    * The maximum number of people who can be given refugee status will be 10,000 a year.

    * Setup an entry/exit system. All new foreign visitors will have their fingerprints added into a federal database.

    * No local program can give social or financial aid to anyone who is in the United States illegally other than emergency medical care. Every service has to verify legal residence. Every government agency has the right to refuse their services to anyone who cannot prove that they are legal residents.

    * Hospitals have to right to refer patients who fit certain predetermined profiles to immigration authorities without fear of being sued.

    * The federal government will complete the border fence mandated by previously passed congressional laws.

    * Cameras will be placed along the border in locations where Internet communications is available. The cameras images will be viewable to Internet users within the United States. This will allow Americans to help Border Patrol agents monitor the border. The software will allow citizens to forward picture frames that they believe might contain illegal immigrants sneaking across the border. Border Patrol will be able to focus more on wilderness areas while American citizens monitor the camera sectors. There are a lot of Americans who would love to help protect the United States border from their own homes. To prevent the cameras from being used by smugglers, the software will not tell the viewers the origin of the camera images.

    * English is the official language of the United States. All federal business with the federal government must be done in English unless congressional passed law preempts it. No government agency will be required or compelled to provide translators except when the person is suspected of a crime. No government agency other than educational teachers, law enforcement, the military, or foreign relations services is allowed to require or specify knowledge of a foreign language as part of its job requirement, preference, or description.

    * Enforce section 243(d) of the Immigration and Nationality Act which charges the State Department with the responsibility of denying visas to countries that refuse to repatriate their citizens who are being deported.

    * No federal agencies is allowed to prioritize one group of deportable illegal immigrants over another group of deportable illegal immigrants. All deportable illegal immigrants must be equal in reference to removal priority.

    * The FBI is required to investigate every candidate for President of the United States to verify that they meet the requirements of the Constitution to be President of the United States. Idealistically, the investigations will begin at least 180 days before Election Day unless the candidate request for it to be done earlier.

    * No government agency or organization that is partly supported by federal, state, county, or local money can withhold information in their possession from any immigration enforcement government agency that can be used to identify or deport illegal immigrants unless congressional laws prevent it.

    * Any federal, state, or local law enforcement agency can deny bail to anyone in the United States illegally if they choose to.

    * Every person booked into jail by law enforcement will have their fingerprints run against federal immigration databases whenever reasonably possible to determine if they are in the United States illegally. (Similar to "Secure Communities" programs)

    * If anyone proves that a business is knowingly hiring illegal immigrants, that person will receive 5% of any monetary judgment that the business must pay for committing the illegal hirings. Businesses will not hire illegal immigrants if they know the illegal immigrants they hire will squeal on them.

    * ICE will be allowed to raid businesses that are suspected of employing illegal immigrants. This practice started in the latter term of Pres. Bush and ended under Pres. Obama. They can coordinator with local police to aid them in locking down the businesses.

    * Immigration judges are allowed to take only 2 issues into account when deciding if a defendant should be deported. 1) Is the defendant in the United States illegally based upon the United States congressional passed immigration law? 2) Is the defendant a refugee or likely to obtain refugee status? No other factors matter. If anyone is in the United States illegally and is unlikely to be given refugee status, then that person should be deported. This should greatly speed up immigration trials.

    * Create a policy that require the 14th Amendment's wording of "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" to be understood to mean the allegiance and citizenship of the child's biological parents at the time of birth and not the physical geographical location. Then stop issuing citizenship certificates to babies if neither parent is an American citizen. This will go to court and the Supreme Court will ultimately determine its meaning.

    * ANY PREVIOUS EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT SUPPORT AMNESTY MUST BE REPEALED.

    Philip Brown

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    I have several ideas, but I am sure the left would be salivating for me to put them here. I will keep them to myself for now, but your ideas are very good phil
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    The best method for stopping illegal immigration is not by trying to persuade Congress to pass new enforcement laws, but by electing a new President who will pledge to implement stronger enforcement policies that are in harmony with the current existing laws. Most republican candidates promise that they will defend the United States against illegal immigration if the voters will elect them, but usually do nothing about it after they are in office. This "trick" works because people are willing to support candidates who give very ambiguous campaign promises such as, "I will secure the border" and "I want to fix the broken immigration system." The pro-enforcement community never demands that candidates publish their strategy for eliminating illegal immigration in exchange for their support. Maybe that should change. With over 15 presidential candidates running in the 2016 elections, and no clear winner in sight, I am sure that one of the candidates would be happy to sign a pledge to implement tough enforcement policies if doing so will greatly increase their voter support base just like it did for Donald Trump. Below are several policy suggestions.
    In all fairness, if you look back at ALIPAC's involvement in the last 3 Presidential races we have done our best to get the full plan from these GOP candidates. You may not have seen or appreciated our efforts, but they are still archived here at www.alipac.us and we did all we could in each case.

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    I think it is good that these issues are being discussed vigorously. Compare to the McCain-Palin era, when religious conservatives essentially thwarted Mitt Romney. I am not sure about Trump---he is thankfully blunt spoken, but may prove to have a lot of baggage that would make him unelectable. Or could get a landslide--very hard to predict.

    I am just glad that the immigration issue is being discussed in earnest and more people have identified the pitfalls. Hopefully the Reps will unite---but not enough to plunge us into another needless war. I'd like to see Pat Buchanan come back with a voice.
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    Very simple fix, repeal the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 and re-institute The Immigration act of 1924 because the National Origins Formula worked. It insured no one ethnic group would overwhelm the country which is exactly the problem we have.
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    Great points!

    Simply stated: (if we could achieve at least 4 of the 5 below, we would be a happy, healthy nation again) Candidates need to talk this talk and our current Congress & Senate need to hear these demands too.
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    Drone the border - better than a fence

    STOP BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP

    Stop chain migration - as it is now, all amnestied or legal permanent residents can bring their entire families

    Reasonable quotas on all types of allowed entry - work visas, students, refugees, legal immigrants with a follow up for expiration (not happening now) and require TB testing

    Repeal amnesties



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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainron View Post
    I think it is good that these issues are being discussed vigorously. Compare to the McCain-Palin era, when religious conservatives essentially thwarted Mitt Romney. I am not sure about Trump---he is thankfully blunt spoken, but may prove to have a lot of baggage that would make him unelectable. Or could get a landslide--very hard to predict.

    I am just glad that the immigration issue is being discussed in earnest and more people have identified the pitfalls. Hopefully the Reps will unite---but not enough to plunge us into another needless war. I'd like to see Pat Buchanan come back with a voice.
    Another thing with the murder of the girl in san fran is that the democrats cant control the debate. most did not even show up to that hearing. What could they say? They could get egg on their face like louie from IL. Hell even Feinstein, at least let on that she, was coming down hard on the sanctuary policies.
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    I would settle for a President who would simply allow the states and local governments to be co-equal enforcers over immigration laws. There are a total of 5000 ICE agents. If only 25 percent of the states want to help enforce immigration law, there would be roughly 225,000 law enforcement personal defending the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philipbrown View Post
    I would settle for a President who would simply allow the states and local governments to be co-equal enforcers over immigration laws. There are a total of 5000 ICE agents. If only 25 percent of the states want to help enforce immigration law, there would be roughly 225,000 law enforcement personal defending the law.

    Philip Brown
    Won't matter as the states that are havens for illegal aliens would just get more illegal aliens gaining more power through more illegal votes and seats in the House. Need some of the other things in place also. Personally I think prison time for anyone renting or giving work to an illegal alien and criminal charges of harboring illegal aliens to any city/state/fed office that assists illegal aliens in remaining in the US which would put in prison the entire city council of SF for instance.

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    The more I read that Article 4, Section 4 of the US Constitution it sounds like we have a RIGHT to immigration enforcement. Immigration is just a technical term---like "alien" No we don't mean they are from outer space, it is simply a term of law describing nationality. And "immigration' may be considered a bad thing, even if we formerly needed it.

    Yes at one time we depended upon immigration because this was the new world. Now it is not the new world, we proved we could whip anyone, and it is time to shed that frontier thinking. Immigration is a VIOLATION OF OUR BOUNDARIES plain and simple. And we may allow some but then it has to be regulated. So, people, we should assert our Constitutional RIGHT to be protected from ANY AND ALL invasions. When they wrote the constitution invasion connoted persons attacking us. But today it could be a ballistic missile. Terror cells are invasions, criminal entry is too.
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