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    SOME CHURCHES CHOOSING TO IGNORE IMMIGRATION LAWS



    Some churches choosing to ignore immigration laws

    By: Jeff Schwilk - Commentary
    Sunday, July 22, 2007 8:25 PM PDT

    There's a problem in Fallbrook, and it's not with the local peaceful protesters. The town's Catholic church, St. Peter's, has decided that U.S. immigration laws don't apply to them. This church operates a formal day labor hiring center for known illegal aliens in their driveway 50 feet from their preschool and playground. Monday through Saturday, St. Peter's aids and abets dozens of illegal aliens (felony), assists them to find employment (felony) and encourages parishioners to hire the illegal aliens (another felony). Father Bud Kaicher knows this, yet he openly proclaims that the church's laws trump our immigration laws, which are designed to maintain fair and orderly immigration in the most generous, welcoming nation in the world.

    The local residents are fed up with this lawlessness and political activism by the leaders of St. Peter's. Father Bud's arrogance has surprised and angered much of the community and his own members. On Saturday mornings, hardly any of his parishioners are there supporting his position against the American protesters. Instead, local alien activists Claudia Smith, Tina Jillings and their friends bus in dozens of Latino students from Palomar College to counterprotest.

    With all the recent problems in the Catholic Church, you would think they would want to bring people together, not divide them on as hot an issue as immigration.

    On July 14, a local Hispanic church supporter confronted and attacked Minuteman Kiani Garcia and smashed his camera on the public sidewalk. Details and video at . This behavior from the Latino activists has become all too common at our public demonstrations lately. Their selfish La Raza attitude has been very apparent, especially since the defeat of their amnesty in Congress last month.

    Recently in San Diego, a few local church leaders have joined forces with Mexican government representative Enrique Morones and other open-border activists to offer sanctuary to aliens ordered deported, in direct defiance of federal law. Rev. Mary Moreno Richardson has offered St. Paul's Episcopal Cathedral in San Diego to illegal aliens whom judges have ordered to leave the country. On the church's Web site, www.stpaulcathedral.org, their home page shows Morones, who is Catholic, giving communion to parishioners along with Rev. Moreno Richardson at the Protestant church.

    So in the midst of America's simmering illegal immigration crisis, we have a few rebel churches that want to see how many laws they can get away with breaking in order to fill their pews with foreign citizens and keep the money flowing in. Most Americans think that's unacceptable and we are speaking out. The first thing we must all do is obey the law.

    If you hire illegal aliens, for whatever reason, stop it! It's a felony crime and it begets more illegals coming here. In San Diego County, there is no excuse to hire illegal workers. Hire American Marines and Sailors at www.HirePatriots.com and/or pay American workers a decent living wage. If we stop hiring illegals, most will return to their home countries and their families, and our communities will be much safer.

    Vista resident Jeff Schwilk is the founder of the San Diego Minutemen, an anti-illegal immigration group based in North County.

    Jeff Schwilk is the Founder of the San Diego Minutemen, San Diego's largest American civil rights group.

    http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/07 ... 134147.txt

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    All churches who choose to ignore the laws should lose their tax exempt status immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCUSA
    All churches who choose to ignore the laws should lose their tax exempt status immediately.
    This is an absolute MUST!!! Churches cannot be allowed to break laws and jeopardize Americans' safety.
    We are NOT a nation of immigrants!

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    As soon as these people trash his church and urinate on his lawn and throw garbage all over, maybe he won't be such an advocate. I wonder how long it's going to take?
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    Churches that give sanctuary to illegal immigrants avoiding deportation is committing a felon. and so is the alien. Why are they not charged and why isn't law enforcers not going into the church and arresting the ministers and deporting the illegal alien? That is the question.
    Our laws just do not amount a hill of beans when some criminals can select what laws to obey and which not to obey. What does all this say about our country?

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    This must be the new wave of "liberation theology" i.e. liberate money from the pocketbooks of American taxpayers. I have noted that a number of evangelical churches in my area,too, seem to have jumped into the fray in supporting illegal immigrants, chiefly as a humanitarian issue. One was raising money for a family of nine kids, whose father worked at a construction job. This despite the fact that evangelicals have taken a lead in addressing poverty issues in those countries. Maybe they ought to address the family planning issue, also.

    I don't know if these Catholics are sincere or not; but they sure are stupid. There are so many opportunities being made for people in developing countries---and I know that just as Catholic and mainstream churches have followed the cotemporary worship trend of evangelicalism they will sooner or later follow another trend of short term volunteering. They don't need to try to make a humanitarian case that, somehow, Americans OWE these people handouts and benefits. We've "been there and done that". And stupid people belong in jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCUSA
    All churches who choose to ignore the laws should lose their tax exempt status immediately.
    That's exactly right. It's the only leverage we have. We start demanding they loose their tax exemption or we stop paying taxes.
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    The more things change...
    The more they never did.


    In 1689, Protestant England broke away formally and finally from the Catholic Fold. That year is called the "Glorious Revolution".

    That year also began 100 years of immediate Catholic assault on Protestant English possessions. This global war is known in America as the "French & Indian Wars (1689-1787)" b/c here, in North America, the Catholic French up in Canada armed, aided, and abetted the Native Americans and incited them into attacking the Protestant English colonies in an attempt to wrest them away from Protestant England.

    Note: the Native Americans were aided, abetted, and incited into the use of guerrilla tactics and Terrorism —Â*scalpings, rapes, mutillations, etc. This use of terrorism set the stage for the paranoia of the Salem Witch Trials in 1692, during the first years of this massive and prolonged global war.

    As part of their anti-Protestant war plans, the Catholic Spaniards down in Florida began giving sanctuary to run-away slaves from the southern English colonies. Soon — just like the Catholic French up in Canada — the Catholic Spanish down in Florida began aiding, abetting, and inciting the blacks to rise up and brutally smash the Protestant English "WASPs" (for lack of a better word).

    For example, in 1739, this massive 100-year long global war between Protestant England and the "Catholic Bloc" flared up again back in Europe. The "War of Jenkin's Ear" —Â*named after an English seaman who was mutilated by the Spanish — erupted and then expanded into the "War of Austrian Succession". Soon, that war expanded across the globe into Protestant England's colonies...

    including here in N. America...

    and gave rise to "King George's War".

    Amidst these rising tensions between Protestant England and Catholic Spain, the Spanish began backing slave uprisings in the English colonies. This led to the "Stono Rebellion" of 1739 in S. Carolina, and the "Great Negro Plot of 1741", also called "The Great New York Conspiracy of 1741".

    Please recall that I told you above that the Catholic French incited the Native Americans to acts of terrorism. With that in mind, such was the fear of "WASPs" in New York in 1741 —Â*especially with other revolts like the Stono Rebellion fresh in their minds — that they revived medieval punishments, including burning at the stake, in order to put down the "Great Conspiracy" of 1741.


    Summary

    You think MS-13 playing soccer with human heads — that is to say, "WASP" human heads — is new???

    Nope.

    Nothing's changed.

    Not one thing.

    Nothing.

    (Well, except the fact that today people have stopped bothering to remember history, have stopped bothering to pay attention to what afflicted their own forefathers, have stopped caring about their own forebears, have stopped —Â*in a word — heeding the 5th Commandemnt to "Honor thy fathers and mothers, that thy days might be long upon the land in which YHWH thy God hath given unto thee" as it were.)


    Addendum

    In 1741, a series of increasingly suspicious fires kept breaking out across New York City. Meanwhile, black slaves were seen congregating in particular taverns, such as one owned by John Hughson (a Catholic). This led to some arrests, including that of Mary Burton. In exchange for her freedom, she testified that there was "a growing conspiracy of poor Whites and Blacks to burn the city, kill the White Men, take the White women for themselves, and elect a new King and Governor".

    Things have changed??

    You don't know how to play ball.

    You don't know how the game is played.

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    'Tolerance' just means 'Take it!'
    It's not about conforming your mind to reality — but conforming reality to your mind (your mind over matter, not matter over you).

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