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    Supreme Court Leans Toward Voter ID Law

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    Supreme Court leans toward upholding voter ID law

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    Tucson, Arizona | Published: 01.10.2008

    "WASHINGTON — The U.S. Supreme Court appeared ready Wednesday to uphold the nation's strictest requirement that voters show photo identification before casting a ballot.

    The justices are faced with a partisan dispute that echoes the bitterly divided decision that sealed the 2000 presidential election for George W. Bush. Now, as then, the court seemed divided along ideological lines.

    Wednesday's arguments were over a challenge to an Indiana law, passed in 2005, that is backed by Republicans as a prudent way to deter voter fraud.

    Democrats and civil rights groups oppose the law as unconstitutional and call it a thinly veiled effort to discourage elderly, poor and minority voters — those most likely to lack proper ID and who tend to vote for Democrats.

    But Justice Anthony Kennedy, often a key vote on the court, did not sound persuaded that the challengers had made their case.

    "You want us to invalidate a statute on the ground that it's a minor inconvenience to a small percentage of voters?" Kennedy said near the end of the lively session. Kennedy did, however, voice concern over some aspects of obtaining an ID, including the difficulty the poor have in getting the birth certificates that are needed to get photo ID.

    More than 20 states require some form of identification at the polls. Courts have upheld voter ID laws in Arizona, Georgia and Michigan, but struck down Missouri's. The Indiana case should be decided by late June, in time for the November elections.

    The justices could use the case to instruct courts on how to weigh claims of voter fraud vs. those of disenfranchisement.

    Paul Smith, representing the challengers, told the justices no evidence of in-person voter fraud was found in Indiana. He said the law is a subtle way "to skew the outcome on election days."

    Indiana Solicitor General Thomas Fisher said the vast majority of Indiana voters easily comply with the law. "You're talking about an infinitesimal portion of the electorate that could be burdened," Fisher said under sharp questioning from Justice David Souter.

    Justice Samuel Alito, who appeared more sympathetic to Indiana's case, posed the question that troubled several justices. With little evidence of fraud or of voters who have been kept from voting, Alito said, "The problem I have is, where do you draw the line? There is nothing to quantify the extent of the problem or the extent of the burden."

    Chief Justice John Roberts, who grew up in Indiana, and Justice Antonin Scalia indicated strong support for the state law. Justice Clarence Thomas said nothing, but generally votes with his conservative colleagues."

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    It just slays me that a United States citizen who is poor, under educated, hungry, living on the streets or mentaly ill is still, poor, under educated, hungry, living on the streets or mentaly ill . I can't understand why the government could not give them a chance for free to get their birth certificate, but they can give it all to the illegal. It just is disgusting and if we should be outraged about anything it should be how are poor are treated. Mexico would never in a million years help them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paige
    It just slays me that a United States citizen who is poor, under educated, hungry, living on the streets or mentaly ill is still, poor, under educated, hungry, living on the streets or mentaly ill . I can't understand why the government could not give them a chance for free to get their birth certificate, but they can give it all to the illegal. It just is disgusting and if we should be outraged about anything it should be how are poor are treated. Mexico would never in a million years help them.
    Obviously, the claims are BS. There would only be a very SMALL percentage who would be effected-----as there is NO WAY that the MAJORITY could be existing in this country right now without a photo ID!!!

    Even if they are on welfare----they would STILL need a photo ID to cash their checks, use foodstamps, etc.
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    You are right. Gosh how stupid of me. Thanks for opening my eyes.
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    One the court overturns these ID to vote laws it opens the door
    for massive illegal alien voter fraud

    Afterall , thats what this really is all about

    Once the illegals and the panderers get their people in there
    its all over with

    And don't say that its bs , it isn't

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