Thread: Terry Anderson gets into it with a Ron Paul Supporter

Someone up thread says, 'RESEARCH' the records....and then they don't do that themselves.

Ron Paul holds a libertarian view on immigration....stop welfare, but let 'em in.

He did NOTHING to stop welfare in congress and he CAN't do it as president!

His record stinks.....not to mention every presidential poll being completely invalid because of his dishonest supporters SPAM.

Ron Paul claims to be the 'small government' candidate. Recently , we compared legislation co sponsored by Paul with others, for instance Duncan Hunter. Paul co sponsored 1000 more pieces of legislation written by others than did Hunter in the same period.

We've been told by Paul fans that 1876 pieces of legislation he co sponsored MUST have been strictly about lowering spending or correcting constitutional injustice!!!! YOU decide......

This isn't all of Paul's co sponsored legislation, just a few. Take note of how they increase policy and enforcement within the IRS and the Dept. of Education. Also, the support for Mexico, etc. Notice also the socialist/liberal members of congress he supported.

Ten years earlier, in 1987, he wrote that the United States should not have a national immigration policy and "should welcome everyone who wants to come here and work."


SPONSORED


107th
H.CON.RES.206 : Recognizing the important relationship between the United States and Mexico.
Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] (introduced 7/31/2001) Cosponsors (
Committees: House International Relations
H. CON. RES. 206

Recognizing the important relationship between the United States and Mexico.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

July 31, 2001

Mr. PAUL (for himself, Mr. BALLENGER, Mr. KOLBE, Mr. BARTON of Texas, Mr. NETHERCUTT, and Mr. DREIER) submitted the following concurrent resolution; which was referred to the Committee on International Relations

CONCURRENT RESOLUTION

Recognizing the important relationship between the United States and Mexico.

Whereas the United States and Mexico share a special bilateral friendship matched by few other countries in the world;

Whereas the United States and Mexico are partners joined by geography as well as by a series of government-to-government and private relationships which are of critical importance to both countries;

Whereas the United States and Mexico share concern on a wide range of issues, including trade and immigration, environmental quality, economic development, and regional security and stability; and

Whereas the special relationship between the United States and Mexico is critically important in its own right as well as serving as a linchpin in the relationship between the United States and every nation in Central and South America: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That it is the sense of Congress that it is in keeping with the just interests of the United States that the special nature of the relationship between the United States and Mexico be recognized and further cultivated to the mutual benefit of both countries.

H.CON.RES.277 : Recognizing the important contributions of the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.
Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] (introduced 11/19/2001) Cosponsors (None)
107th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. CON. RES. 277

Recognizing the important contributions of the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

November 19, 2001

Mr. PAUL submitted the following concurrent resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Energy and Commerce

CONCURRENT RESOLUTION

Recognizing the important contributions of the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.

Whereas the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce of the United States has had a significant impact among Hispanic businesses, and in the business community in general;

Whereas the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce has served in a key support role, not merely as a business group but also as a civic organization working in the Hispanic-American community; and

Whereas the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce has helped to bring entrepreneurship to the Hispanic community as well as helping to pool the resources and talents of Hispanic American entrepreneurs: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That it is the sense of Congress that it is important to the promotion of the free market process of the United States, to the future success of Hispanic Americans, and to society at large that the special role of the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce of the United States be recognized and further cultivated to the benefit of all Americans.

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Originally Posted by MW

Didn't I read a post on here the other day that said Terry Anderson has officially endorsed Duncan Hunter for President? Interesting video - thanks.

YES it is here !!!

Originally Posted by nntrixie

Sounds like this man doesn't like Ron Paul either, huh?

He said the exact opposite

Originally Posted by MW

Tiny wrote:

If people take the time to listen to Ron Paul on immigration, they would find that his views are clearer than any of the other candidates.

However, his past history on the issue and voting record can't be ignored.

Also statements like this the following don't give me a warm and fuzzy.

"I find the border fence offensive."

That and his vote against the Amber Alert system twice
Makes me all tingly inside…

PineStrawGuys wrote:

People, do your own research!! To sit here and read someone's unsubstantiated comment and allow it to influence your opinion of ANY candidate is ridiculous!

The fact that you allow anonymous comments to color your thinking does not reflect well on your mental acuity. The information is out there for you to find, and when you find it on your own it will be worth much more to you than these BS blurbs that arrive on this board from agenda-driven posters.

My God folks, if you've got time to read all this stuff you should have enough time to do a damned Google search! It's REALLY not that HARD!!

I resent your implications, PineStrawGuys. Many of us have done our OWN research. Furthermore, stating that an "anonymous" comment has colored anyones thinking is pure presumption on your part.

Me thinks you're being too tough on the natives.

Originally Posted by MW

PineStrawGuys wrote:

People, do your own research!! To sit here and read someone's unsubstantiated comment and allow it to influence your opinion of ANY candidate is ridiculous!

The fact that you allow anonymous comments to color your thinking does not reflect well on your mental acuity. The information is out there for you to find, and when you find it on your own it will be worth much more to you than these BS blurbs that arrive on this board from agenda-driven posters.

My God folks, if you've got time to read all this stuff you should have enough time to do a damned Google search! It's REALLY not that HARD!!

I resent your implications, PineStrawGuys. Many of us have done our OWN research. Furthermore, stating that an "anonymous" comment has colored anyones thinking is pure presumption on your part.

Me thinks you're being too tough on the natives.

Whats the old saying, we use alot around here
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There were two (2) statements that brought that post out of me.

This one...

IF what Terry is saying about what RP said about if welfare is eliminated, he would be willing to open up the border, then RP is out of his cotton-pickin mind. If that's the case, I will no longer be looking at RP.

and this one...

They would just Rape our Children and kill us a few at a time. They need to be Stopped from coming here period !!!! If Ron Paul feels they should even be here at all I will never vote for him

This is exactly why I think people should do their research. Think about it for a second, if there were no welfare for illegal aliens they would not be able to survive on the wages they are currently gettng and would therefore not be able to undercut Americans for those jobs. The employers wouldn't have a financial advantage in hiring them which would eliminate their desire for them to come here in the first place.

Originally Posted by Pistov

Originally Posted by Culturist

Ron Paul has great talk on immigration. Apparantly his record is good as well. Romney also has a good record on immigration.

Realistically, Paul has very little hope of getting elected. If those who voted for Paul were mostly concerned with immigration, votes that didn't go for him might have gone for Romney. Romney might have won New Hampshire and be even more electable than he is today.

I think Paul has more culturist sensibility than all the other candidates put together. But, for practical purposes, I think it would be good for him to do a Tancredo, step out of the race now, and let his votes go to Romney.

Thoughts?

NO, but it could have been.....HUH????

Bren is that you??...lol

Originally Posted by Pistov

Originally Posted by Culturist

Ron Paul has great talk on immigration. Apparantly his record is good as well. Romney also has a good record on immigration.

Realistically, Paul has very little hope of getting elected. If those who voted for Paul were mostly concerned with immigration, votes that didn't go for him might have gone for Romney. Romney might have won New Hampshire and be even more electable than he is today.

I think Paul has more culturist sensibility than all the other candidates put together. But, for practical purposes, I think it would be good for him to do a Tancredo, step out of the race now, and let his votes go to Romney.

Thoughts?

Bren is that you??...lol

NO, but it could have been.....HUH????

Originally Posted by PinestrawGuys

There were two (2) statements that brought that post out of me.

This one...

IF what Terry is saying about what RP said about if welfare is eliminated, he would be willing to open up the border, then RP is out of his cotton-pickin mind. If that's the case, I will no longer be looking at RP.

and this one...[quote:1ygu2bs3] They would just Rape our Children and kill us a few at a time. They need to be Stopped from coming here period !!!! If Ron Paul feels they should even be here at all I will never vote for him

This is exactly why I think people should do their research. Think about it for a second, if there were no welfare for illegal aliens they would not be able to survive on the wages they are currently gettng and would therefore not be able to undercut Americans for those jobs. The employers wouldn't have a financial advantage in hiring them which would eliminate their desire for them to come here in the first place.[/quote:1ygu2bs3]

As has been pointed out numerous times............

In 2004, Arizona passed 4 props denying illegals benefits, instate tuiton, bail, etc.

NONE of the illegals were leaving-----and they kept coming as well!!

It was not until recently when Arizona began going after employers-----that the illegals started to leave!!!!