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    Trump Backed Amnesty For Illegal Aliens Only Last June

    Trump Backed Amnesty For Illegal Aliens Only Last June

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    12/17/2015 06:46 PM ET


    Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks at a rally in Greenville, S.C.


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    The centerpiece of GOP front-runner Donald Trump's presidential campaign is his hard-line stance on immigration. But he was for amnesty before he was against it. And it wasn't that long ago.


    Trump supporters concerned that unfettered immigration will bring liberalism into permanent dominance over the American electorate and society — and that probably describes most of them — don't know Donald like they think they know Donald.


    You don't have to go back far to find a pro-amnesty statement from the No. 1 defender of deportation. At the end of June, speaking to the press in Chicago and after saying he "heard you probably have 30 million" illegal aliens in America, Trump contended:


    "You have to give them a path, and you have to make it possible for them to succeed. You have to do that. But the bad ones, and there are bad ones, you have to get out, and you have to get them out fast."


    That's "path" as in "path to citizenship," not a path to exit the country via our southern border. And it's clear he was referring to the bulk of the millions of aliens. The "bad ones" he would deport he depicts as a minority of the illegals. How small a minority is wide open to speculation.


    Several weeks after President Obama's 2012 re-election, Trump, interviewed by Newsmax's Ron Kessler, blasted Mitt Romney's "crazy policy of self-deportation." It was "maniacal," he said, contending it cost the Republican "all of the Latino vote" and adding "he lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country."


    Trump told Kessler that the Republicans must develop comprehensive immigration reform "to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful, productive citizens of this country."


    Contrasting the two parties on the issues, Trump told Kessler, "The Democrats didn't have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren't mean-spirited about it. ... What they were is they were kind."


    Now, perhaps The Donald will try to claim what he meant in 2012 was if Romney had proposed forced deportation of illegals, it wouldn't have been "maniacal" or "mean-spirited," and would have garnered more of the Latino vote. But it's doubtful that even his ever-forgiving supporters would swallow that explanation.


    In Tuesday night's debate, Trump sneered, "Jeb (Bush) is a very nice person" and "Jeb said when they come across the southern border, they come as an act of love." But Trump's reference to immigrants, legal and illegal, as "people wanting to be wonderful, productive citizens of this country" sounds awfully similar.


    "I have a very hard-line position," Trump claimed in Las Vegas. "People that have come into our country illegally, they have to go."


    "They have to go" is quite a flipflop from the "you have to give them a path" position that Trump took only five and a half months ago.



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    This is an editorial. It takes a word he says, and then rambles on in the words of the author, not Trump. It's a hit piece.

    It's also the day that Trump made his announcement to run for President, June 17, when he made his famous Mexican speech. Hardly a call for "amnesty", quite the opposite.
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    Amnesty, as defined by Webster's 9th New Collegiate Dictionary, is as follows:
    The act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals.

    Trump has continuously stated that his 1st action concerning illegals will be to remove them from the country. He is dedicated to build a big beautiful wall. He has vowed to uphold and enforce our existing laws.

    Reagan's 1986 move gave true amnesty. Illegals that were here got to stay here and become citizens. They were granted a full pardon.

    Forcing illegals to leave and then apply from their home country to re-enter the U.S. is not a pardon. It is not amnesty. It is a path. A path that is part of our current legal system.

    -Stop the invasion with mass deportation!
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    Yes, and under current path laws, once they're out, they can't even apply to re-enter for 10 years. And Trump is putting a halt on new immigration. His plan doesn't say how long, but I would think years because he talks all the time about 93 million people who aren't in the work force that he apparently thinks should be, so it will take some time to put all those Americans back to work before we let any new immigrants into the country. By that time, there will even more technologically advanced equipment and machinery that will reduce the amount of labor we need, so it will be a really really long time before any legal immigrants are needed in the United States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendaze View Post
    Amnesty, as defined by Webster's 9th New Collegiate Dictionary, is as follows:
    The act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals.

    Trump has continuously stated that his 1st action concerning illegals will be to remove them from the country. He is dedicated to build a big beautiful wall. He has vowed to uphold and enforce our existing laws.

    Reagan's 1986 move gave true amnesty. Illegals that were here got to stay here and become citizens. They were granted a full pardon.

    Forcing illegals to leave and then apply from their home country to re-enter the U.S. is not a pardon. It is not amnesty. It is a path. A path that is part of our current legal system.

    -Stop the invasion with mass deportation!
    Let's not ignore the details of what Trump has supported and is supporting. Trump has supported amnesty in the past. One such instance is evidenced above. He has also proposed a couple of amnesty programs this year. One being a merits system which would allow non-criminal (whatever that is) illegals to remain. The other being an expedited return program that allows deported illegals an expedited path back, ignoring written immigration law by allowing the so-called "good ones" an expedited path to return. Allowing this ignores the 10 year application law regarding the return of deported illegals. It also moves them ahead of folks who have been legally attempting to immigrate here for years. Each of these programs are amnesty because they ignore current law and benefit illegals with a special path that they aren't entitled to by law.

    Trump's expedited return path to re-entry sounds extremely similar to the touchback program that was being pushed in 2007. Amnesty supporters were pushing for the touchback because they thought it would be an acceptable compromise. However, anti-amnesty advocates saw the program for what it was, amnesty, and stopped its passage.

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    Like Trump says, the people are smart, they "get it".

    And yes, we do.

    STAY TRUE!! STAY TRUMP!!

    Trump is going to deport all illegal aliens within 2 years with families intact as "single units", no child left behind and he's going to do it with "deportation forces" and "good management", because that is already existing law. Anything that happens after that regarding these people will be a political process involving politicians in Congress.
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