Thread: Trump to meet with Mexico's President on Wednesday

This trip may highlight the deteriorating relationship between Americans and the Mexican people. They want to tell our candidate for President he is "not welcome" when he is responding to an invitation from their President, we need to tell Mexicans, they are "not welcome" when they enter the US in violation of US immigration law or defend those who do.

I just saw an interview with a Hillary Surrogate, Maria Cardonna telling in forceful terms what the Mexican President needs to do to put Trump down. Think about that for a minute. This is the brilliance behind the meeting. It will expose the preference of Hillary and the Democratic Party to help and encourage Mexico at the expense of the US and our citizens. And out of the mouth of Ashleigh Banfield, CNN, she says to the Trump Surrogate, "illegal aliens are here illegally so by definition they are criminals", trying to press the Trump Surrogate to say they'll all be deported or they'll all be given amnesty.

This is going to work out quite well, I think.

by ALEX SWOYER
31 Aug 2016
Washington, DC
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Former President of Mexico Vicente Fox is bashing Donald Trump’s visit with Mexico’s current President Enrique Peña Nieto, ahead of the Republican nominee’s speech on immigration in Pheonix, Arizona.

“I don’t understand what’s going on here, and I really apologize for our president taking this step forward,” Fox stated, expressing criticism of Nieto for agreeing to Trump’s visit to Mexico. “I really expect from him, as all 130 million Mexicans, all of our great brother Mexicans in the United States, an explanation from both, from President Peña and Trump himself.”

Trump reacted to Fox’s criticism on Twitter Wednesday morning, pointing out that Fox had previously invited Trump to Mexico in May.

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Former President Vicente Fox, who is railing against my visit to Mexico today, also invited me when he apologized for using the "f bomb."
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During an interview with Breitbart News roughly three months ago in California, Fox extended an invitation to Trump to visit Mexico after he apologized for using vulgar language against Trump’s proposal to build a wall along the southern border.

“I apologize. Forgiveness is one of the greatest qualities that human beings have, is the quality of a compassionate leader. You have to be humble. You have to be compassionate. You have to love thy neighbor,” Fox stated in May during an interview with Breitbart News at the J.W. Marriott in Santa Monica, California.

“I don’t think he should follow the strategy of attacking others, offending others, to get to his purpose. There are other ways and means of doing it,” Fox stated at the time. “I invite him to come to Mexico and to see what Mexico is all about.”

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presid...o-invited-may/

The Mexican government and people like Vincente Fox of former governments are apoplectic right now. They don't know what end is up or what to do about it. They are exposing their lack of real hospitality, displaying their hatred for America unless they're ripping US off in some fashion, this will not only create turmoil in their political system at their own hand, it will incite anti-American displays and protests, and Americans will turn their backs on Mexico as tourist destination as well as possible business destinations.

The Mexicans have created a situation that is so unfavorable to American safety, security and interests that they have stepped in their own mess, walked straight into a trap, and will "GLUB GLUB" in their own quicksand.

To extend phony invitations that you don't really mean and then mistreat, abuse or protest someone who kindly accepts it, just shows how despicable most of the Mexican Elites really are. We'll see if they show their true colors during the visit.

Trump takes risky gamble with Mexico trip

The nominee's campaign is betting the trip will look presidential. But it could go very wrong.

By KYLE CHENEY and BEN SCHRECKINGER
08/30/16 10:07 PM EDT
Updated 08/30/16 11:58 AM EDT


Donald Trump has spent years trashing Mexico as a corrupt enemy of the United States, whose government has looked the other way as drug dealers and criminals stream across the border. On Wednesday, he’ll step off a plane in Mexico City and confront a government and people that have followed his every utterance — and rejected them.

Trump’s meeting with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto is one of the greatest gambles of the election for Trump. It comes as he trails in most polls and prepares to deliver a speech expected to repackage — and perhaps walk back — his controversial immigration policies after a year of calling for mass deportations and a 2,000-mile border wall with Mexico. He’ll return from the trip in the evening and deliver his immigration address in Phoenix.

“If he can go down there and look statesmanlike while at the same time being firm for what he stands for, then I think it helps shape people’s perceptions of him as to what he would be like if he’s actually president,” said Steve Munisteri, a Republican consultant and former chairman of the Texas GOP. “This is a chance for him to demonstrate to the American people what it would be like to have Trump as president, what it would be like if he was dealing with foreign leaders.”

Republicans see the gambit as a high-risk, high-reward opportunity to change the terms of the election — but only if Trump can demonstrate presidential demeanor on the international stage. To that end, the joint press conference he intends to hold with Peña Nieto afterward offers a potential glimpse into what a Trump bilateral meeting would look like.

"He wants to establish a conversation with a neighboring country, a leader. And also to discuss the common problems and challenges that our country is facing," said Kellyanne Conway, Trump’s campaign manager, on Wednesday morning.


Trump reminds Vicente Fox about his own invitation

By NICK GASS

It could be a hard sell in a country that Trump has long blamed for America’s illegal immigration problems. Over the years Trump – primarily on Twitter – has labeled Mexico an “enemy,” urged an American boycott, threatened to deduct foreign aid and feuded with former Mexican presidents about his plans to build a border wall.

After hosting the 2007 Miss Universe Pageant in Mexico, Trump claimed a local businessman owed him money and that the Mexican court system had failed to force him to pay.

“Mexico is not a U.S. friend,” he tweeted last year, just before announcing his presidential bid.

Charlie Spies, a veteran GOP lawyer, sees the move as a simple play for swing-state white voters, rather than an attempt to appeal to minorities.

“Winning the Hispanic vote for Donald Trump is likely a lost cause, but the Caucasian swing voters he needs to be successful in target states will likely see this trip to Mexico as an important outreach effort,” he said. “He is doing a speech today that purports to outline an immigration policy that’s really a no win situation for him because he demagogued the issue for so long … Even if the president embarrasses him, and/or Trump loses his cool, no matter what happens, the visual of him on stage with a world leader elevates him.”

One complication already threatens to cloud Trump's trip. Though Conway insisted Trump and Nieto would take questions from Mexican and American reporters, Trump's traveling press corps was left stranded in Arizona, a break from precedent in modern presidential campaigns.

"Trump is setting a distressing precedent today," tweeted the Associated Press' Jill Colvin, a member of the Trump press corps.

Others noted that Trump did provide for press to accompany him on his last international trip: a visit to his golf course in Scotland.

Peña Nieto invited both Trump and Hillary Clinton last week, and the Trump campaign scrambled to pull Wednesday’s meeting together, according to a person briefed by a senior Trump adviser.

“Trump realized this would be a brilliant time to do it and is trying to pull it together last minute,” a person close to the campaign who had been briefed by a campaign staffer said Tuesday night. “Would be a major power play. It’s like he’s already negotiating on behalf of America.”

The person suggested that the meeting could, for example, allow Trump to agree to deport only criminals if the Mexican president offered some sort of concession in return.


Mexico rages against Trump visit

By NICK GASS

Mexican political leaders, including former President Vicente Fox, questioned why Peña Nieto would “legitimize” Trump by hosting him at the presidential palace. It’s raised the prospect that Peña Nieto, himself struggling amid unpopularity, could attempt to upstage Trump and denounce his anti-Mexico rhetoric.

“The most logical reason he would do this is so he could forcefully denounce Trump and try to reinforce his – elevate his standing among the Mexican voters,” Spies said.” If he doesn’t do that, then I agree with the criticism of people like former President Fox who believe that this is an honor that Donald Trump has not earned.”

After Trump announced the meeting, Peña Nieto confirmed it on Twitter, explaining in Spanish, "I believe in dialogue to promote the interests of Mexico in the world." The meeting is scheduled to take place at the presidential palace in Mexico City, the New York Times reported.

Few political leaders in Mexico welcomed Trump's visit. A former Mexican ambassador to the United States, Miguel Basañez Ebergenyi, tweeted that Trump presents the greatest danger to the Mexico-U.S. relationship in the past 50 years. "I deeply regret the invitation," he wrote.

Conway, however, pronounced the meeting a "decisive presidential move," while taking a shot at Clinton for not also accepting the invitation.

"We’re just happy the president invited him," Conway told NBC's "Today" on Wednesday, adding, "I mean, I feel like she keeps following the leader here."

Corey Lewandowski, who held Conway's title until being fired amid a June leadership shakeup but still talks with Trump regularly, similarly called the Mexico visit "leadership."

Lewandowski suggested that his former boss could change the tenor of his relationship with Mexico as a result of the trip.

"Look, it’s very, very possible that Mr. Trump goes down there, meets the president, says, hey, look, we have more things in common than we have apart. Let's find a way that in 69 days from today when I’m elected president of the United States we can work together," Lewandowski said.

Arguing that Trump would not back away from his position on the wall, Lewandowski said that proposal was an unbreakable starting point of negotiation.

"We can work together, we can find a way that Mexico can find a way to start paying for that wall, but it is going to be built," Lewandowski continued. "It's 2,000 miles. We don't need to build a wall all 2,000 miles. Maybe it’s 1,100 miles, because [of] the topography of the border. But that wall is going to get built. He's never deviated from it. And the American people aren’t going to pay for it."


Lewandowski: Trump's Mexico visit could change relations

By NICK GASS

It is traditional for major party presidential nominees to travel to foreign countries to demonstrate their ability to perform on a world stage, but neither candidate has put together a traditional sojourn abroad this year. In June, Trump traveled to his golf courses in Scotland and Ireland and held press conferences, which were designed largely to promote the properties there, but he did not hold meetings with local leaders or other political events. Late last year, Trump canceled plans to visit Israel amid reports that it would provoke unrest among Palestinians and that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was uninterested in meeting with him.

Clinton, who traveled the world more extensively than any prior secretary of state during her tenure in the Obama administration, has not announced plans for any campaign trips abroad.

In a statement, Clinton's campaign reiterated some of Trump's previous statements about Mexicans and immigration, including calling some Mexicans "rapists."

"What ultimately matters is what Donald Trump says to voters in Arizona, not Mexico, and whether he remains committed to the splitting up of families and deportation of millions," Clinton's campaign said.

Such trips traditionally are high-stakes affairs that carry both risks and opportunities. In 2008, images of the throngs of Germans who cheered Barack Obama as he spoke at Berlin’s Brandenburg Gate helped solidify his image at home as a transcendent figure. In 2012, Mitt Romney’s summer trip to Europe was marred by multiple memorable gaffes, including his criticism of London’s performance as a summer Olympics host.

But just hours before the meeting is set to take place, Trump, who has rarely shied from risk in this campaign, tweeted, “I have accepted the invitation of President Enrique Pena Nieto, of Mexico, and look very much forward to meeting him tomorrow.”

Because Mexico relies heavily on trade with United States and remittances from Mexican citizens living in the U.S., Trump’s vows to deport undocumented immigrants and adopt more protectionist trade policies have shaken the Mexican government.

In March, Peña Nieto compared Trump’s rhetoric to that of Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler, but he has since struck a more conciliatory tone, acknowledging that he will have to work with Trump if the Republican nominee is elected president.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...#ixzz4IvkAhhFF

Mr. Fox, a voluble presence on Twitter in his own right, retorted that he had urged Mr. Trump to visit Mexico to apologize for disrespecting the country. “Stop lying!” Mr. Fox shot back. “Mexico is not yours to play with, show some respect.” . . .

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/31/us...xico.html?_r=0

Mr. Fox, a voluble presence on Twitter in his own right, retorted that he had urged Mr. Trump to visit Mexico to apologize for disrespecting the country. “Stop lying!” Mr. Fox shot back. “Mexico is not yours to play with, show some respect.” . . .

Vincente Fox needs to show US citizens some respect, our people are not yours to rob, and attacking our candidate for President is disrespecting the voters who elected him our candidate to be President. Furthermore, telling Trump to stop lying when he hasn't lied to begin with an insult, especially when you, Vincente, have lied like a dog for 30 years to rob the American People and force your failures and ne'er do wells into our society so yours is free of them.

Americans know the truth because we see and pay for it every single day.

'Political stunt': Ex-Mexican President Vicente Fox rips Donald Trump’s trip to Mexico

Colin Campbell Deputy Politics Editor
August 31, 2016
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Former Mexican President Vicente Fox on CNN. (Screenshot: Twitter/@CNNPoliics)
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Former Mexican President Vicente Fox didn’t hold back on Wednesday when asked on CNN about Donald Trump’s surprise visit to Mexico later in the day.

“He is not welcome to Mexico. By 130 million people, we don’t like him. We don’t want him. We reject his message,” Fox said on “New Day.”

He added that Trump’s trip is “nothing more than a political stunt” and that the GOP is using Mexico … to boost his sinking poll numbers.”

Fox is a fierce critic of Trump, who launched his campaign last summer with a speech in which he accused the Mexican government of sending rapists and other criminals across the U.S. border.

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A core part of Trump’s platform has been the construction of a massive wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, which he has vowed to make Mexico pay for.

Earlier this year, Fox memorably declared that he wouldn’t “pay for that f***ing wall.” Trump replied to Fox’s profanity by repeatedly telling supporters that “the wall just got 10 feet higher.”

Trump suddenly announced the Mexico trip Tuesday night, and the visit will occur just hours before the mogul gives a major address on immigration policy in Phoenix.

During his Wednesday CNN interview, Fox was also very critical of Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto.

He said Trump’s meeting with the Mexican leader was a “desperate move on both sides.”

“I think the president, Peña, is taking an enormous political risk by hosting Trump. If he’s considered as going soft on Trump, it will hurt him greatly. He will even be considered like a traitor,” Fox said.

“I don’t understand what’s going on here,” he later added. “And I really apologize for our president taking this step forward.”

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Peña Nieto defended the meeting on Twitter late Tuesday night. He wrote that he hoped to engage in a dialogue to promote the country’s interests around the world and protect Mexicans living abroad. He also said he invited Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.
For his part, Trump responded to Fox’s interview not long after it occurred Wednesday morning. The GOP nominee said Fox also invited him to Mexico during their spat over the wall:

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by CHARLIE SPIERING
31 Aug 2016

Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton criticized her rival Donald Trump for visiting Mexico today, suggesting that it was a “photo op” that lacked genuine leadership.

Citing her experience as Secretary of State, Clinton assured the audience of veterans that she had experience in the “slow hard work” of diplomacy that was required and did “more than a photo op.”

She alluded to Trump’s history of insulting Mexico for over a year, after announcing his run for president.

“People have to get to know that they can count on you, that you won’t say one thing one day and something totally different the next,” she said. “And it certainly takes more than trying to make up for a year of insults and insinuations by dropping in on our neighbors for a few hours and then flying home again.”

Clinton who has repeatedly boasted of her miles traveled as Secretary of State, disapproved of Trump’s decision.

“That is not how it works,” she said, after she was over a half an hour late for her speech.

Clinton cited her experience as a Senator during 9/11, and serving as Secretary of State for President Barack Obama during the Seal Team 6 raid on Osama bin Laden. She did not mention, however, her experience on the day of the Benghazi attacks or the disappointing results of the situation in Libya.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presid...isit-photo-op/