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    Trump's Order May Mark 11 Million Undocumented Immigrants for Deportation: Experts

    By JULIA JACOBO & LAUREN PEARLE Jan 26, 2017, 6:12 AM ET

    The nation's undocumented immigrants -- approximately 11 million by a 2014 Pew Research estimate -- could be made a priority for deportation as a result of the executive order signed by President Donald Trump Wednesday, according to legal experts.

    The order delineates several categories of undocumented immigrants who are priority for removal from the United States including those who have been "charged with any criminal offense" or those who have "committed acts that constitute as a chargeable offense."

    On the campaign trail, Trump has vacillated several times on the issue, at first indicating that all undocumented immigrants would be sent back" if they've done well they're going out and they're coming back in legally." Then he tempered his remarks to focus on undocumented immigrants who committed crimes.

    But Trump's executive order appears to extend beyond this.

    "Many aliens who illegally enter the United States and those who overstay or otherwise violate the terms of their visas present a significant threat to national security and public safety," the order states. "This is particularly so for aliens who engage in criminal conduct in the United States."

    Anyone who came to the U.S. illegally -- that is without passing through border inspection committed a criminal misdemeanor and could fall into the priority removal category, legal experts tell ABC News.

    While overstaying a visa is not a criminal offense, legal experts say that those who do so could fall under a vague clause in the executive order that undocumented immigrants who "have engaged in fraud or willful misrepresentation in connection with any official matter" are a priority for deportation as well.

    "This is scary stuff for America's legacy of immigration, for business and for our hospitality," said Michael Wildes, an immigration attorney who formerly represented Trump Models, the Miss Universe Organization and Melania Trump.

    "Lady Liberty is probably closing her eyes right now in New York Harbor."

    The executive order is "remarkably broad," said David Martin, a University of Virginia School of Law professor who specializes in immigration, constitutional law and international law.

    "This order takes that notion of 'criminal alien' to its farthest reaches," Martin continued.

    A professor from Yale Law School, Peter Schuck, also called Trump's executive order "extraordinarily broad" and said that one provision that states "ensure that jurisdictions that fail to comply with applicable Federal law do not receive Federal funds" could be read to mean all federal funding, not just law enforcement assistance going to sanctuary cities such as San Francisco, Austin and New York.

    The orders stipulate an increase in the number of border patrol enforcement officers and lay the groundwork for building a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border, a longtime campaign promise of Trump's.

    "President Trump's fantasy of sealing the border with a wall is driven by racial and ethnic bias that disgraces America's proud tradition of protecting vulnerable migrants," said Omar Jadwat, the director of the ACLU's Immigrants' Rights Project.

    "The DHS deportation force has a track record of racial profiling and excessive force abuses, and expanding it will further erode the rights of millions of people who call our safe border communities home. Locking up asylum seekers who pose no danger or flight risk is unconstitutional and benefits nobody except private prison corporations and politicians looking to score rhetorical points. We will see the Trump administration in court if they go down that road," Jadwat said in a statement.

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    LOL!!! Yes, finally, someone in the CORRUPT MEDIA figures out that Trump's plan is to deport all illegal aliens. Yes, that's what he promised, that's what he wants to do, there are many legal, financial and economic reasons to do this, it is the law, he will enforce it, and is doing so for the American People.

    There's nothing racist about it. There's nothing even remotely akin to "excessive force" involved. There are no civil rights violations, no human rights issues. It's the law, when you break it you are hunted down, arrested and deported. It's very simple. It's how we protect our nation from overpopulation we can't sustain.
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    I read the Executive Order and it is very broad also including "Have abused any program related to receipt of public benefits" which is really great as most of them are receiving at least one if not all public benefits they are not entitled to which would also make them eligible for deportation.
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    "Lady Liberty is probably closing her eyes right now in New York Harbor."
    I would say "Lady Liberty" is probably doing a celebration dance because she's happy to witness our country getting rid of illegals aliens that snuck in behind her back! Lady Liberty represents legal immigration, not illegal immigration.

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    Lady Liberty never had anything to do with immigration of any kind. She was a gift from the French to celebrate and provide a beautiful symbol of liberty, not immigration.
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    A lot of the DACA people are afraid that instead of deporting just violent criminals that they will go after everyone that has committed any crime, such as shoplifting. It seems that they gave DACA to a lot of people that have actually committed crimes. A lot of the DACA group were also already under deportation orders. They are afraid if they are caught up in a raid that regardless of DACA they will be deported.

    I have always worried about how well they were being investigated. I know in the 1986 Amnesty I had read articles where they were so backlogged that rather then having a complete investigation they just started rubber stamping their approval.

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    Yes, the fearful are correct. If you shoplifted, you're on the list for deportation as a criminal. If you're on food stamps or free school lunch, you're on the list for deportation for being a moocher. Trump laid this out during the campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MontereySherry View Post
    A lot of the DACA people are afraid that instead of deporting just violent criminals that they will go after everyone that has committed any crime, such as shoplifting. It seems that they gave DACA to a lot of people that have actually committed crimes. A lot of the DACA group were also already under deportation orders. They are afraid if they are caught up in a raid that regardless of DACA they will be deported.

    I have always worried about how well they were being investigated. I know in the 1986 Amnesty I had read articles where they were so backlogged that rather then having a complete investigation they just started rubber stamping their approval.
    Those DACA recipients who have committed various crimes are often still approved and their crimes (misdemeanors) overlooked in screening. Backlog, lack of will, lack of funds, all excuses. This was proven in testimony at a hearing by Senator Sessions and it is archived here on Alipac.
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    Trump is going to fix that.
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