Thread: VA: Last-Ditch Efforts To Protect Illegal Aliens

Last-Ditch Efforts To Protect Illegal Aliens
By Greg L | 1 March 2008 | Illegal Aliens, Crime, PWC Politics | No Comments

According to WUSA Channel 9, Mexicans Without Borders has been trying to prepare the area’s illegal aliens for Prince William County’s enforcement of the Rule of Law Resolution that will take full effect on Monday. As part of their efforts, they are trying to provide illegal aliens with a crash-course in how to take full advantage of constitutional protections against self-incrimination, in part by handing out informational fliers, which first started showing up in the area when Casa de Maryland was concerned about ICE workplace enforcement efforts in Montgomery County, MD. They also appear to be lining up attorneys to represent illegal aliens who are detained by the Prince William County Police Department, hoping to prevent deportations.

Although it is annoying to have open-borders activists attempt to subvert the law, what they’re doing is perfectly legal, and entirely expected. All persons subject to the jurisdiction of the United States do enjoy certain constitutional protections, and the Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and Eighth Amendments do protect suspected illegal aliens. It makes sense, because almost all the protections these afford apply prior to a judicial determination that someone is actually an illegal alien. Simply being suspected of being an illegal alien doesn’t mean that a swath of the Constitution doesn’t apply to you. Also, there’s nothing wrong about being fully informed about your rights as a defendant, even if that means that police will have a marginally more difficult time investigating violations of the law. Let’s put this canard to rest that illegal aliens get no protections under the Constitution. They do, and arguing otherwise just diminishes the credibility of your arguments.

That doesn’t at all mean that citizens shouldn’t feel enraged that Mexicans Without Borders is actively attempting to shield lawbreakers from the consequences of their unlawful behavior. It may be legal, but it is behavior that will undoubtedly upset a lot of people. When an organization seeks to undermine law enforcement efforts and protect a class of criminals who many feel are delivering upon them personally a steady stream of terribly aggravating problems, it does cement in their minds how personal their own fight against Mexicans Without Borders really is. If citizens are dealing with residential overcrowding next door, safety and security issues on their street, MS-13 gang activity in their neighborhood and other problems that relate to the unlawful presence of illegal aliens in their community, to see Mexicans Without Borders do everything they can to ensure these lawbreakers can evade the law doesn’t cause citizens to reduce their vigilance, but to redouble it. All Help Save Manassas likely needs to do to counter this is to start handing out these fliers to citizens, and show them what the illegal alien supporters are trying to do.

Fortunately these efforts are likely to produce very little in the way of effective protection for illegal aliens. Probable cause is established more by the behavior of a person, rather than what that person may happen to say to an officer during a traffic stop. Should a suspect in a traffic violation decide to clam up, there’s a rather substantial document trail for licenses, registration and insurance documentation that can establish probable cause regardless of what the suspect says or fails to say, for example. Keeping silent might help a few evade the law at least temporarily, but if your behavior is unlawful, the police department will get you at some point if they’re dedicated to doing so. Let’s hope their dedication to enforcing this law is equal to the dedication they display towards enforcing the law to American citizens.

The hysteria that Mexicans Without Borders and their allies have been whipping up has absolutely convinced a significant proportion of our illegal alien population that jackbooted thugs are going to start busting down doors and hauling illegal aliens off to concentration camps. I’ve heard reports that some believe Prince William County has enacted a law that makes it a crime to speak spanish in public, for example. Now Mexicans Without Borders is in the position of trying to calm the unfounded fears they established while reports continue to pile in that illegal aliens are fleeing Prince William County. Of note is that school enrollments have dropped substantially in Prince William County over the past few months, they have actually increased in the City of Manassas, which suggests that it is now viewed as a relative safe haven, a rather dangerous misconception for these folks to latch on to. Someday, perhaps, the immigrant community is going to realize that Mexicans Without Borders has been lying to them in order to try to enlist more people in their cause, but at the rate it’s going, the pool of potential members for them is shrinking fast.

If the behavior of Mexicans Without Borders enrages you, there is more you can do than just simply vent your frustration in this thread. There’s a growing number of local organizations dedicated to combating their agenda in Virginia that you can find here: http://www.savetheolddominion.org/ , and since they don’t get the lavish funding and support that Mexicans Without Borders appears to enjoy, another volunteer working on this issue or a donation can make a big difference. Don’t just whine about this. Do something.
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For reference: http://www.mexicanossinfronteras.org/

All persons subject to the jurisdiction of the United States do enjoy certain constitutional protections, and the Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and Eighth Amendments do protect suspected illegal aliens.

Occurding to my understanding of the debate over the 14th amendment "under the jurisdiction of the United States" refers to someone that is here legally, not illegally. Those that don't hold an alligiance to the US by being or becoming citizens are not under the jurisdiction. Therefore these invaders have no rights under our constitution!