Thread: We need confirmation on this fast!

Friends,

We need confirmation on this fast if it is true.

I just read a post on our youtube account beneath the video clip about the child and two women that were killed by the illegal alien. Here is what a poster said. If this is true, I need confirmation FAST! Please help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrRr66E0ofU

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Just to show you how Colorado feels about illegals killing children. They just gave this POS a bond. $250,000 bond for the life of 3 Americans, one of which is a child. I don't know about you, but, I just lost even more faith in our justice system. How about we tell him he is not a bad guy just a misguided upstanding gentleman that made a bad decision. I say, stomp on his face til he is unrecognizable and then let his family come and watch him die. That is justice for killing a baby. DIE MF!!!

W

Originally Posted by ALIPAC

Friends,

We need confirmation on this fast if it is true.

I just read a post on our youtube account beneath the video clip about the child and two women that were killed by the illegal alien. Here is what a poster said. If this is true, I need confirmation FAST! Please help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrRr66E0ofU

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Just to show you how Colorado feels about illegals killing children. They just gave this POS a bond. $250,000 bond for the life of 3 Americans, one of which is a child. I don't know about you, but, I just lost even more faith in our justice system. How about we tell him he is not a bad guy just a misguided upstanding gentleman that made a bad decision. I say, stomp on his face til he is unrecognizable and then let his family come and watch him die. That is justice for killing a baby. DIE MF!!!

W

This is true...the bond for the IA killer was "upped" to 250K by the hearing judge.

Bond raised for suspect in crash that killed 3
Comments Sep 8, 2008 2:23 PM (6 hrs ago) AP

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Map data ©2008 Tele Atlas - Terms of UseMapSatelliteHybridAURORA, Colo. (Map, News) - A judge has raised the bond to $250,000 for a man accused in a hit-and-run crash that killed three people in Aurora.

Twenty-three-year-old Francis Hernandez appeared in an Arapahoe County courtroom Monday to be advised that he is being held on three counts of vehicular homicide, reckless driving, and hit and run.

Aurora police say Hernandez was the driver of an SUV that crashed into a pickup and shoved it into a Baskin Robbins ice cream shop last Thursday. Two women in the pickup died instantly, and a toddler in the store died later at a hospital.

Defense attorney Kallman Elinoff says Hernandez is distraught over the deaths.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials have issued a hold for Hernandez, who will be formally charged on Thursday.

http://www.examiner.com/a-1576415~Bond_ ... led_3.html

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...offlaw-record/ - 83k -




At this link, under his photo, it says he's being held on $100,00

Are these people crazy!?!?! Don't they know that judges apply heavy bonds to illegal aliens because they are flight risks and the norm we see when judges have this info about the suspect on a serious crime like this is 1 MILLION DOLLARS!

Ok, hopefully ICE would grab him with their hold but everyone here knows you can't count on ICE to do their jobs as an organization worth a crap (no offense to the individual officers doing the best they can with what they have)

This guy can bond out with 25,000 from one of his gangster buddies on his Myspace account and be gone from the US forever if ICE fails to grab him.

I hope I'm wrong, but these are ridiculously low bail amounts for an illegal alien that has killed three people, has 16 prior convictions, and is 23 years old.

W

This is the latest caption from the Denver Post:

Francis Hernandez's bail was raised today to $250,000. (Aurora Police Department)

The amount is confirmed in the story, updated around 5 pm mountain time today.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_10411791

The article I just read said that ICE had a hold on him....and that he would NOT be released

The prior story says this.....Hernandez was advised Monday that he is being held on three counts of vehicular homicide, reckless driving and hit-and-run. The judge raised his bond from $100,000 to $250,000.

Hernandez is currently on an immigration hold, which means he will be released to immigration authorities if the charges were dropped and the state releases him. ICE said they would start formal deportation proceedings and permanently ban him from re-entering the country.

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can a person live with blood pressure above 250? INSANE!

I'm just shocked. Even if this guy was an American citizen and had a clean record I think 250k bond is low!

http://www.kwgn.com/pages/news_local_la ... feedID=202
story with video report

Report says traffic 16 stops in Five years

http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx? ... &catid=188

On the right, under the killers mug its a link to three other stories related to this
(( THIS story has people's posts below it ))

Immigration status of man accused in ice cream shop deaths eluded police for years
posted by: Jeffrey Wolf 37 mins ago

AURORA – At least eight local law enforcement agencies have made contact with him over the last five years, but until this week, most of them say they had no reason to believe Francis Hernandez was an illegal immigrant.

Aurora Police say last week Hernandez caused a chain-reaction crash which resulted in the deaths of three people inside and outside of an ice cream store. On Friday, Aurora investigators said they believed Hernandez was born in California and could find no indication that he was in the U.S. illegally.

Monday, federal immigration officials confirmed they now believe Hernandez came into the country illegally in 1991 and that he was born in Guatemala.

A state criminal database shows Hernandez has had plenty of contact with police since 2003. Starting with a misdemeanor arrest in Broomfield in September 2003, the database indicates authorities in Westminster, Longmont, Lakewood, Gilpin County, Boulder County, Denver and Aurora have also made contact with Hernandez.

Those agencies picked Hernandez up on various things ranging from speeding to criminal impersonation. All but one of the cases involved misdemeanor charges. That one exception was the criminal impersonation charge and prosecutors eventually allowed Hernandez to plead guilty to a misdemeanor in that case.

The news that Hernandez is now believed to be an illegal immigrant had local law enforcement agencies scrambling on Monday to figure out their exact interaction with Hernandez.

"There really was no way of knowing (his status)," said a spokesperson for the Denver Police Department on Monday. "At the time of his arrest (on July 18 for various traffic violations) we had no reason to believe he was in the country illegally."

That was a sentiment 9NEWS heard often on Monday during our conversations with many of the local agencies.
Hernandez has used a number of different aliases over the last five years which could have contributed to the problem. In Jefferson County, for instance, he used the name Ricky Perez, according to the state's criminal database.
Carl Rusnok, a spokesperson for U.S. Immigration Control and Enforcement (ICE), says it is his understanding that ICE, prior to this week, had not been notified by anyone in Colorado about Hernandez's immigration status.

"We feel like somebody dropped the ball," said Robert Guntharp, the husband of Patricia Guntharp, who was one of those killed on Thursday. "We still have major questions that we still can't understand."

Hernandez was in court on Monday to be advised of his rights. He faces several charges of vehicular homicide.
He is accused of running a red light in his SUV and hitting a pickup, which was sent hurtling into an Aurora ice cream store. Two women in the pickup, Patricia Guntharp and Debra Serecky, were killed instantly and a boy in the store, Marten Kudlis, died later of his injuries.

No bond discussions took place during Hernandez's advisement on Monday but he remains on a hold by immigration officials which comes with an automatic $250,000 bond. The hold, or detainer, means Hernandez would be turned over to immigration authorities should the state release him.