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    The white South’s last defeat

    From the liberal publication, Salon. Written by the co-founder of the Progressive of the New America Foundation. The New America Foundation. One of the largest donors to the New America Foundation is the Kellog Foundation

    TUESDAY, FEB 5, 2013 08:30 AM CST

    The white South’s last defeat


    Hysteria, aggression and gerrymandering are a fading demographic's last hope to maintain political control

    BY MICHAEL LIND

    A Confederate flag flies outside the South Carolina State House.
    (Credit: Reuters/Chris Keane)

    In understanding the polarization and paralysis that afflict national politics in the United States, it is a mistake to think in terms of left and right. The appropriate directions are North and South. To be specific, the long, drawn-out, agonizing identity crisis of white Southerners is having effects that reverberate throughout our federal union. The transmission mechanism is the Republican Party, an originally Northern party that has now replaced the Southern wing of the Democratic Party as the vehicle for the dwindling white Southern tribe.

    As someone whose white Southern ancestors go back to the 17th century in the Chesapeake Bay region, I have some insight into the psychology of the tribe. The salient fact to bear in mind is that the historical experience of the white South in many ways is the opposite of the experience of the rest of the country.

    Mainstream American history, from the point of view of the white majority in the Northeast, Midwest and West Coast, is a story of military successes. The British are defeated, ensuring national independence. The Confederates are defeated, ensuring national unity. And in the 20th century the Axis and Soviet empires are defeated, ensuring (it is hoped) a free world.

    The white Southern narrative — at least in the dominant Southern conservative version — is one of defeat after defeat. First the attempt of white Southerners to create a new nation in which they can be the majority was defeated by the U.S. Army during the Civil War. Doomed to be a perpetual minority in a continental American nation-state, white Southerners managed for a century to create their own state-within-a-state, in which they could collectively lord it over the other major group in the region, African-Americans. But Southern apartheid was shattered by the second defeat, the Civil Rights revolution, which like the Civil War and Reconstruction was symbolized by the dispatching of federal troops to the South. The American patriotism of the white Southerner is therefore deeply problematic. Some opt for jingoistic hyper-Americanism (the lady protesteth too much, methinks) while a shrinking but significant minority prefer the Stars and Bars to the Stars and Stripes.

    The other great national narrative holds that the U.S. is a nation of immigration, a “new nation,” a melting pot made up of immigrants from many lands. While the melting pot story involves a good deal of idealization, it is based on demographic fact in the large areas of the North where old-stock Anglo-Americans are commingled with German-Americans, Polish-Americans and Irish-Americans, along with more recent immigrant diasporas from Latin America, Asia, the Middle East and Africa.

    But even before the recent wave of immigration from sources other than Europe, the melting pot never included most of the white South. From the early 19th century until the late 20th, the South attracted relatively few immigrants. Who wanted to move to a backward, rural, apartheid society dominated by an oligarchy of a few rich families? Apart from several encapsulated minorities — Cajuns in Louisiana, Germans in central Texas — most white Southerners remained descendants of colonial-era immigrants from the British Isles, chiefly English and Scots-Irish. And while Irish and German Catholics and Jews diversified the religious landscape of the North, the South was dominated by British-derived Protestant sects like the Episcopalians, Baptists and Methodists from Virginia to Oklahoma and Texas.

    Two maps illustrate the demographic distinctiveness of the white South. The first shows the close correlation of evangelical Protestantism with the states of the former Confederacy. The second map is even more revealing. It shows the concentration of individuals who identified themselves to census takers as non-hyphenated “Americans.”

    It is clear from the map that most self-described unhyphenated “Americans” are, in fact, whites of British descent — many if not most of them descendants of the Scots-Irish diaspora that emigrated from Ulster to the British colonies in the 1700s. The point is that many white Southerners do not think of themselves as having any “ethnicity” at all. Others — German-Americans, Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, Jewish-Americans, Mexican-Americans, Chinese-Americans — are hyphenated Americans. White Southerners tend to see themselves as “pure” Americans, “real” Americans, “normal” Americans. Long after Mayflower descendants were submerged by waves of European migration in New England, large regions of the white South remain the last places in the country where local majorities can trace their family ancestry back to before 1776 in British America.

    As difficult as it may be, outsiders should try to imagine the world as viewed by conservative white Southerners, who think they are the real Americans — that is, old-stock British-Americans — and the adherents of the true religion, evangelical Protestantism. In this perspective, the rest of the country was taken over by invading hordes of Germans, Irish and other European tribes in the first half of the 19th century, leaving the South, largely unaffected by European immigration, as the last besieged pocket of old-stock British-Americans, sharing parts of their territory with subjugated and segregated African-Americans.

    This local British-American ethno-racial hegemony in the South was eroded somewhat by the migration of Northeasterners and Midwesterners to the Sun Belt following World War II and the advent of air-conditioning. And now, predominantly nonwhite
    immigration from Latin America and Asia threatens to make white Southerners of British Protestant descent a minority in their own region. Texas and Florida are already majority-minority states. It is only a matter of time before the same is true of every state in the South. Southern whites will go from being a minority in the nation as a whole to a minority in the South itself.

    If Southern culture had a tradition of assimilating immigrants, then cultural “Southernness” could be detached from any particular ethnicity or race. One could be an assimilated Chinese-American good old boy or a Mexican-American redneck. To some degree, that is happening. And Southern whites and Southern blacks have always shared many elements of a common regional culture.

    But it is difficult, if not impossible, for many white Southerners to disentangle regional culture (Southern) from race (white) and ethnicity (British Protestant). The historical memory of white Southerners is not of ethnic coexistence and melting-pot pluralism but of ethnic homogeneity and racial privilege. Small wonder that going from the status of local Herrenvolk to local minority in only a generation or two is causing much of the white South to freak out.

    The demographic demise of the white South is going to be traumatic for the nation as a whole. A century ago, when European immigration made old-stock Yankee Protestants a minority in much of the Northeast and Midwest, one response was hysterical Anglo-American nativism. In a 1921 essay in Good Housekeeping titled “Whose Country Is This?,” then Vice President Calvin Coolidge, an old-stock Yankee from Vermont, explained: “Biological laws tell us that certain divergent people will not mix or blend. The Nordics propagate themselves successfully. With other races, the outcome shows deterioration on both sides.” Patrician Yankees promoted immigration restriction to prevent “inferior” European races from further contaminating America. Some eminent Americans of New England descent, including Henry James, T.S. Eliot and Ezra Pound, all of them nasty anti-Semites, took the extreme step of expatriating themselves. James and Eliot became British subjects and Pound made anti-American broadcasts for Mussolini during World War II.

    Just as white Southerners today are gerrymandering congressional districts and contemplating gerrymandering the Electoral College to compensate for their dwindling numbers, so the outnumbered Yankees of the North sought to dilute the political influence of European “ethnics” in the early 1900s. When the 1920 census revealed that largely European urbanites outnumbered mostly old-stock Anglo-American rural voters, Congress failed to reapportion itself for a decade, because of the determination of small-town Anglo-Americans to minimize the power of “white ethnics.”

    By the 1970s, the social divisions among old-stock Anglo-Americans and the “white ethnics” had faded to the point that most white Americans in the North had ancestors from several Western European nationalities. Similarly, the trans-racial melting pot in the U.S. will probably blur or erase many of today’s racial differences by the middle of the 21st century.

    But the old-stock Yankees in the Northeast and Midwest did not accept their diminished status in their own regions without decades of hysteria and aggression and political gerrymandering. The third and final defeat of the white South, its demographic defeat, is likely to be equally prolonged and turbulent. Fasten your seat belts.

    Michael Lind is the author of Land of Promise: An Economic History of the United States and co-founder of the New America Foundation.

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    While I do not agree with the violence and slavery against innocent Africans that the Confederate flag reminds many people of, I also feel that is is wrong to punish innocent white Southerners (as well as other innocent white Americans from every other region) who have done no harm with destruction of their culture and nation. I personally have Southern roots, feel there are many beautiful things about Southern culture, and do not wish to see that destroyed and my family to be put in harm's way. And I wish for all nonwhites loyal to America to be spared harm as well, as they too are in danger of being harmed by the separatist Latinos who want to erase all non-Hispanic cultures from this landmass and have victimized nonwhite Americans as well-though whites remain the biggest target for genecide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sacredrage View Post
    While I do not agree with the violence and slavery against innocent Africans that the Confederate flag reminds many people of, I also feel that is is wrong to punish innocent white Southerners (as well as other innocent white Americans from every other region) who have done no harm with destruction of their culture and nation. I personally have Southern roots, feel there are many beautiful things about Southern culture, and do not wish to see that destroyed and my family to be put in harm's way. And I wish for all nonwhites loyal to America to be spared harm as well.
    The Civil War has been over for a long time and I think that we can all agree that slavery was an abomination that recognized humans as property. It was not, however exclusive to whites but it is a common theme used to demonize.

    Some of the Cherokee, Seminole and Chickasaw for instance, were slave owners that took their slaves with them to Oklahoma.

    African American Odessy
    Pages 543 and 544.
    Black Heritage Sites: An African American Odyssey and Finder's Guide - Nancy C. Curtis - Google Books

    also see.
    Cherokee Slave Holders
    Untitled Document

    Freed Blacks in the South and in the North were slave owners and the largest slave market in the country was in New York.

    THE BLACK SLAVE OWNERSBy Joseph E. Holloway

    Large numbers of free Blacks owned black slaves in numbers disproportionate to their representation in society. According to the federal census of 1830, free blacks owned more than 10,000 slaves in Louisiana, Maryland, South Carolina, and Virginia. The majority of black slave-owners lived in Louisiana and planted sugar cane.
    Slave holding among the mulatto class in South Carolina was widespread according to the first census of 1790, which revealed that 36 out of 102, or 35.2 percent of the free Black heads of family held slaves in Charleston City. By 1800 one out of every three free black recorded owning slave property. Between 1820 and 1840 the percentage of slaveholding heads of family ranged from 72.1 to 77.7 percent, however, by 1850 the percentage felt to 42.3 percent.According to the U.S. Census report in 1860 only a small minority of whites owned slaves. Out of a population of 27 million whites only eight million lived in the South, and out of this population fewer than 385,000 owned slaves. In short, the total white population own about 1.4, while the southern white population own about 4.8 enslaved Africans.
    On the other hand the black population in 1860 was 4.5 million, with about 500,000 living in the South. Of the blacks residing in the South, 261,988 were not slaves. Of this number, 10,689 lived in New Orleans. In New Orleans over 3,000 free blacks owned slaves, about 28 percent of the free Black population in the city.
    The Black Slave Owners - SlaveRebellion.org

    Then there is a tendency to overlook the white indentured servants that were brought here as debtors were the first slaves in this country and many were never able to pay for their freedom and spent their lives in slavery. Some were abused as equally as any other slave population

    The attacks on the Confederate Flag are, in my opinion, a way to gin up racist rhetoric for the current political agenda. especially since Blacks fought for the confederacy also.

    Black Confederates in the Civil War

    by Scott K. Williams

    Noted Examples:1. The "Richmond Howitzers" were partially manned by black militiamen. They saw action at 1st Manassas (or 1st Battle of Bull Run) where they operated battery no. 2. In addition two black “regiments”, one free and one slave, participated in the battle on behalf of the South. “Many colored people were killed in the action”, recorded John Parker, a former slave.
    2. At least one Black Confederate was a non-commissioned officer. James Washington, Co. D 35th Texas Cavalry, Confederate States Army, became it’s 3rd Sergeant. Higher ranking black commissioned officers served in militia units, but this was on the State militia level (Louisiana) and not in the regular C.S. Army.
    3. Free black musicians, cooks, soldiers and teamsters earned the same pay as white confederate privates. This was not the case in the Union army where blacks did not receive equal pay. At the Confederate Buffalo Forge in Rockbridge County, Virginia, skilled black workers "earned on average three times the wages of white Confederate soldiers and more than most Confederate army officers ($350- $600 a year).

    4. Dr. Lewis Steiner, Chief Inspector of the United States Sanitary Commission while observing Gen. "Stonewall" Jackson's occupation of Frederick, Maryland, in 1862: "Over 3,000 Negroes must be included in this number [Confederate troops]. These were clad in all kinds of uniforms, not only in cast-off or captured United States uniforms, but in coats with Southern buttons, State buttons, etc. These were shabby, but not shabbier or seedier than those worn by white men in the rebel ranks. Most of the Negroes had arms, rifles, muskets, sabers, bowie-knives, dirks, etc.....and were manifestly an integral portion of the Southern Confederate Army."

    5. Frederick Douglas reported, “There are at the present moment many Colored men in the Confederate Army doing duty not only as cooks, servants and laborers, but real soldiers, having musket on their shoulders, and bullets in their pockets, ready to shoot down any loyal troops and do all that soldiers may do to destroy the Federal government and build up that of the…rebels.”

    6. Black and white militiamen returned heavy fire on Union troops at the Battle of Griswoldsville (near Macon, GA). Approximately 600 boys and elderly men were killed in this skirmish.

    7. In 1864, President Jefferson Davis approved a plan that proposed the emancipation of slaves, in return for the official recognition of the Confederacy by Britain and France. France showed interest but Britain refused.

    8. The Jackson Battalion included two companies of black soldiers. They saw combat at Petersburg under Col. Shipp. "My men acted with utmost promptness and goodwill...Allow me to state sir that they behaved in an extraordinary acceptable manner."
    The complete article is at:

    http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/stlouis/blackcs.htm
    The "Reconstruction" of the South was a shameful page in this country's history continuation of a political agenda also as it punished all Southerners.
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    The vast majority of southerners did not own slaves. Slaves were owned and brought in by big businesses of the day much like illegal immigrants of today.

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    Newmexican, I never knew about the white indentured servants....wow! Heard about the Native Americans having black slaves in order to make themselves look less like victims to white people.

    Yes guys, it seems like "collective guilt" is all the rage today, isn't it? A few Southernors are mean to another race....so let's punish them all by destroying the South....a few whites around the world are mean to other races....so let's punish them all by allowing anti-white, racist immigrants to go into all of the white-dominant nations of the world and outnumber them....> Sick, isn't it?

    The average progressive liberal will care about saving the great white shark (who can't change its character and will continue to want to eat people) but loves to oppress any person born with white skin even to the tiniest infant-assuming we're all "white devils" who are inherently evil and don't consider that we are a product of our upbringing instead of our genetic makeup! Whites today do some of the most good around the world-we go to third world nations with food and clothing for the poor, we work to help those less fortunate both here and abroad, we are on the frontlines to save endangered species, we are among the first to spring to helpful action whenever natural disasters happen around the globe, and our help isn't limited to helping other white nations. Yet the average progressive liberal continues to act as if the world's salvation depends on the elimination of white people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sacredrage View Post
    Newmexican, I never knew about the white indentured servants....wow! Heard about the Native Americans having black slaves in order to make themselves look less like victims to white people.

    Yes guys, it seems like "collective guilt" is all the rage today, isn't it? A few Southernors are mean to another race....so let's punish them all by destroying the South....a few whites around the world are mean to other races....so let's punish them all by allowing anti-white, racist immigrants to go into all of the white-dominant nations of the world and outnumber them....> Sick, isn't it?

    The average progressive liberal will care about saving the great white shark (who can't change its character and will continue to want to eat people) but loves to oppress any person born with white skin even to the tiniest infant-assuming we're all "white devils" who are inherently evil and don't consider that we are a product of our upbringing instead of our genetic makeup! Whites today do some of the most good around the world-we go to third world nations with food and clothing for the poor, we work to help those less fortunate both here and abroad, we are on the frontlines to save endangered species, we are among the first to spring to helpful action whenever natural disasters happen around the globe, and our help isn't limited to helping other white nations. Yet the average progressive liberal continues to act as if the world's salvation depends on the elimination of white people.

    So true. To be white is to be reviled in this day and age. There IS a white genocide going on - worldwide. I recently was told of this by a Facebook friend of mine in South Africa.

    I was vaguely aware of the violence there, but the Pistorius case led me down a rabbit hole of investigation and I was shocked and frankly devastated at what I saw. White babies set alight while still alive. White women brutally raped with broken glass bottles then strung up by the feet and disemboweled like a fish. Children thrown in to boiling water to drown after seeing their parents raped and killed. Old men dragged while still alive behind their "bakkies" (truck). Just read an article today about a woman who was raped by two black men while having her face stepped on as her 12 year old son looked on sobbing.

    I could go on and on, but it's too heartbreaking. Finding this out was like 9-11 for me all over again. In shock, blown away, depressed and feeling helpless/hopeless. I pray that this will not be what is in store for us here in the states, but it's hard to ignore the statistics of Black on white and Brown on white crimes here.

    I ask God "WHY do they hate us so much?" What have we done that is so terrible? We are the most generous race on the face of the planet....we go out of our way to help the poor. We should not be held in contempt for what our govt does or what was done in our past. Instead every non white country in the world absolutely despises us. I just don't get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SicNTiredInSoCal View Post
    So true. To be white is to be reviled in this day and age. There IS a white genocide going on - worldwide. I recently was told of this by a Facebook friend of mine in South Africa.

    I was vaguely aware of the violence there, but the Pistorius case led me down a rabbit hole of investigation and I was shocked and frankly devastated at what I saw. White babies set alight while still alive. White women brutally raped with broken glass bottles then strung up by the feet and disemboweled like a fish. Children thrown in to boiling water to drown after seeing their parents raped and killed. Old men dragged while still alive behind their "bakkies" (truck). Just read an article today about a woman who was raped by two black men while having her face stepped on as her 12 year old son looked on sobbing.

    I could go on and on, but it's too heartbreaking. Finding this out was like 9-11 for me all over again. In shock, blown away, depressed and feeling helpless/hopeless. I pray that this will not be what is in store for us here in the states, but it's hard to ignore the statistics of Black on white and Brown on white crimes here.

    I ask God "WHY do they hate us so much?" What have we done that is so terrible? We are the most generous race on the face of the planet....we go out of our way to help the poor. We should not be held in contempt for what our govt does or what was done in our past. Instead every non white country in the world absolutely despises us. I just don't get it.
    WOW SicandTired-I had no idea this was going on! :_( Time to pray for those being victimized right now AND demand justice of the governments allowing this to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sacredrage View Post
    WOW SicandTired-I had no idea this was going on! :_( Time to pray for those being victimized right now AND demand justice of the governments allowing this to happen.
    I am over being accused of being racist. The Mexicans come here with a built in bias because of the caste system in Mexico, and they trade on the color of their skin to get more by claiming discrimination. It is a ploy because Hispanic isn't even a race, it is a mixed ethnicity.

    The Black panther ranting at the voting booth in 2008 was no accident and it seems our new government allows it to happen also.
    The call for the white genocide in South Africa from this country

    Khalid Muhammad - Call for White Genocide!

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    The South African Government backed by the ANC government looks the other way at the killings in South Africa.

    The Killing Of Whites In South Africa...And America's Silence

    Example of absolute racism.
    Farrakhan is building his army

    The Nation of Islam teaches that white people will be exterminated from the face of North America in the very near future. Farrakhan says that UFO’s will descend from the sky and bomb US military installations to aid blacks in a race war.
    Several followers of the Nation of Islam have become serial killers. A man who served as one of Farrakhan’s bodyguards at the Million Man March went on to become the DC Sniper.
    Here we see that the Nation of Islam is highly organized and aggressively recruiting. The groups has Mosques, businesses, private schools, and properties all over the country. In fact, black only NOI private schools are receiving public tax dollars.

    Video at link.
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    Saturday, 04 August 2012 14:00South Africa Facing White Genocide, Total Communist Takeover
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    While most of the world refuses to acknowledge what is happening in largely communist-controlled South Africa, the non-profit group Genocide Watch declared last month that preparations for genocidal atrocities against white South African farmers were underway and that the early phases of genocide had possibly already begun. In the long run, Genocide Watch chief Dr. Gregory Stanton explained, powerful communist forces also hope to abolish private-property ownership and crush all potential resistance.

    According to experts and official figures, at least 3,000 white farmers in South Africa, known as Boers, have been brutally massacred over the last decade. Many more, including children and even infants, have also been raped or tortured so savagely that mere words could not possibly convey the horror. And the problem is growing worse, international human rights monitors and South African exiles say.

    The South African government, dominated by the communist-backed African National Congress (ANC), has responded to the surging wave of racist murders by denying the phenomenon, implausibly claiming that many of the attacks are simply regular crimes. Despite fierce criticism, authorities also stopped tracking statistics that would provide a more accurate picture of what is truly going on in the so-called “Rainbow Nation.”

    In many cases, the murders are simply classified as “burglaries” and ignored, so the true murder figures are certainly much higher than officials admit. The police, meanwhile, are often involved in the murders or at least the cover-ups, multiple sources report. A white South African exile living in the United States told The New American that when victims are able to defend themselves or apprehend the would-be perpetrators, many of the perpetrators are found to be affiliated with the ruling ANC or its youth wing.

    Experts are not buying the government’s cover-up. "The farm murders, we have become convinced, are not accidental," said Dr. Stanton of Genocide Watch during a fact-finding mission to South Africa last month. It was very clear that the massacres were not common crimes, he added — especially because of the absolute barbarity used against the victims. "We don't know exactly who is planning them yet, but what we are calling for is an international investigation that will try and determine who is planning these murders."

    Indeed, most honest analysts concede that the thousands of brutal killings and tens of thousands of attacks are part of a broader pattern. And according to Dr. Stanton, who was also involved in the anti-Apartheid movement in South Africa and has decades of experience examining genocide and communist terror, the trend points toward a troubled future for the nation.

    “Things of this sort are what I have seen before in other genocides,” he said of the murdered white farmers, pointing to several examples including a victim’s body that was left with an open Bible on top and other murder victims who were tortured, disemboweled, raped, or worse. “This is what has happened in Burundi, it’s what happened in Rwanda. It has happened in many other places in the world.”

    Speaking in Pretoria at an event organized by the anti-communist Transvaal Agricultural Union, Dr. Stanton also slammed the effort to dehumanize whites in South Africa by portraying them as “settlers.” The label is meant to paint Afrikaner white farmers — descendants of Northern Europeans who arrived centuries ago — as people who do not belong there.

    It is the same process that happened prior to the infamous genocide against Christian Armenians in Turkey, Stanton explained. The dehumanization phenomenon also occurred against the Jewish people in Germany under the National Socialist (Nazi) regime of mass-murderer Adolf Hitler, well before the Nazi tyrant began implementing his monstrous “final solution.”

    Unfortunately, South Africa might be next in line, experts believe. "Whenever you have that kind of dehumanization ... you have the beginning of that downward spiral into genocide," Stanton noted, adding that the situation in South Africa had already moved beyond that stage. The next phase before extermination, which began years ago in South Africa, is organizing to actually carry it out.

    "We are worried that there are organized groups that are in fact doing that planning," Stanton continued during his speech. "It became clear to us that the [ANC] Youth League was this kind of organization — it was planning this kind of genocidal massacre and also the forced displacement of whites from South Africa."

    Genocide Watch raised its alert level for South Africa from stage five to stage six — the eighth and final stage is denial after the fact — when then-ANC Youth League boss Julius Malema began openly singing a racist song aimed at inciting murder against white South African farmers: "Shoot the Boer" and “Kill the Boer.” Described by the anti-genocide group as a “racist Marxist-Leninist,” Malema has also been quoted as saying that “all whites are criminals” and threatening to steal white farmers’ land by force.

    After the calls to genocide made international headlines, the South African Supreme Court ruled that the song advocating murder of whites was unlawful hate speech. Incredibly, the President of South Africa, ANC’s Jacob Zuma, then began singing it early this year too. Since then, the number of murdered white South African farmers has been growing each month, according to reports. Other senior government officials, meanwhile, have openly called for “war.”

    "This is the kind of talk that of course is not only pre-genocidal, it also comes before crimes against humanity," Dr. Stanton said, urging everyone to remember that they are all members of the human race. "Those who would be deniers, and who would try to ignore the warning signs in this country, I think are ignoring the facts."

    There is also increasing “polarization,” where the target population — white farmers in this case — and even moderates are portrayed as an “enemy,” Stanton explained about the march to genocide. And that phenomenon is ever-more apparent in South Africa, leading Genocide Watch to classify South Africa as being close to the final stages of genocide in July of this year.

    The issue of land distribution, which has become one of the key drivers of the downward spiral, is also among the greatest concerns. The white minority in South Africa still owns much of the land despite ANC promises to redistribute it to blacks. But the re-distribution that has occurred — like in neighboring Zimbabwe — has largely resulted in failure.

    Despite the atrocious track record so far, extremists including elements of the ANC-dominated government are now hoping to expropriate land from white farmers more quickly, with some factions even arguing that it should be done with no compensation at all. And the communist agenda, like virtually everywhere else where forcible land redistribution has been adopted, has even broader goals.

    “Whatever system of land tenure is adopted in South Africa, the communists — in the long run — have in mind to take away all private property. That should never be forgotten,” Stanton warned, noting that he had lived in communist-run countries before. "Every place you go where communists have taken over, they take away private ownership because private ownership gives people the power — the economic power — to oppose their government. Once you have taken that away, there is no basis on which you can have the economic power to oppose the government."

    Meanwhile, the South African government is stepping up efforts to disarm the struggling white farmers, too — stripping them of their final line of defense. As has consistently been the case throughout history, of course, disarmament is always a necessary precursor to totalitarianism and the eventual mass slaughter of target groups. In fact, arms in the hands of citizens are often the final barrier to complete enslavement and even extermination.

    “The government has disbanded the commando units of white farmers that once protected their farms, and has passed laws to confiscate the farmers’ weapons,” Genocide Watch noted on its website in an update about South Africa posted last month. “Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocidal killings.”

    The exile who spoke with TNA said that many of the guns confiscated from whites by officials have later been found at the gruesome murder scenes of white farmers. Even mere possession of an “unregistered” or “unlicensed” weapon — licenses have become extraordinarily difficult to obtain, if not impossible — can result in jail time. And in South Africa, especially for white farmers, that is a virtual death sentence, with widespread rape and HIV infections being the norm.

    Dr. Stanton promised the Afrikaners that he would be visiting the U.S. Embassy and bringing the issue to the attention of world leaders. However, he also urged them not to give up their guns and to continue resisting against the communist “ideology” espoused by so many of the political and party leaders that now dominate the nation’s coercive government apparatus.

    The United Nations defines genocide as "the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group." The term also includes actions other than simply wholesale slaughter, though. According to the UN, among the crimes that can constitute genocide are causing serious harm to members of a specific minority group, deliberately inflicting conditions on the minority aimed at bringing about its destruction in whole or in part, seeking to prevent births among the targeted population, and forcibly transferring minority children to others.

    Activists and exiles argue that many of those conditions have already been met — and any single one can technically constitute genocide if it is part of a systematic attempt to destroy a particular group. Meanwhile, experts say that the government is encouraging the problem, actively discriminating against whites, and in many cases even facilitating the on-going atrocities.

    Of course, this would not be the first time a similar tragedy has happened in Southern Africa. When Marxist dictator Robert Mugabe seized power in Zimbabwe (formerly known as Rhodesia, once one of the richest countries on the continent), he began a ruthless war against the white population and his political opponents.

    The country promptly spiraled into chaos and mass starvation under the Mugabe regime when the tyrant “redistributed” the farms and wealth to his cronies, who of course knew nothing about farming. The regime murdered tens of thousands of victims, and estimates suggest that millions have died as a direct result of Mugabe’s Marxist policies.

    Whites who refused to leave their property during the “redistribution” were often tortured and killed by the regime or its death squads. With Mugabe still in charge, the tragic plight of Zimbabwe continues to worsen today. But the mass-murdering despot is still held in high regard by many senior officials in the ANC.

    Not all South Africans — especially city dwellers — are convinced that there is an on-going genocide in their country, or even that one may be coming. Indeed, the vast majority of blacks and whites would simply like to live in peace with each other, and there are plenty of other problems facing South Africa at the same time. However, virtually everyone agrees that without solutions, the precarious situation in the “Rainbow Nation” will continue to deteriorate, going from bad to worse.

    Many activists seeking to draw attention to the issue are calling on European governments and the United States to immediately begin accepting especially vulnerable white refugees from South Africa as a high priority. There are less than five million whites in the country, about 10 percent of the population, down from almost a quarter decades ago. Analysts say that giving them asylum, however, may prove tough politically — partly because it could expose the precious establishment myths of Nelson Mandela and his ANC as being “heroic” so-called “freedom fighters.”
    Unsurprisingly, the establishment press has barely reported a word about the looming potential calamity. And by the time the world media finally catch on, many analysts worry that it might be too late.
    South Africa Facing White Genocide, Total Communist Takeover


    Ignoring this blatant racism and talk of murder based on the color of one's skin seems to be OK in some circles. according to J Christian Adams, the DOJ has refused to prosecute Black on white crime. Interesting.

    Black Unemployment Crisis: Loss Of Government Jobs Hurts African Americans Hardest
    First Posted: 06/07/11 08:26 AM ETUpdated: 08/07/11 06:12 AM ET


    The cuts fall with marked impact on African Americans such as Mathis. Nearly 21 percent of the nation’s working black adults hold government jobs, as compared to some 17 percent of white workers and 15 percent of Latinos. Public agencies are the single largest employer for black men, and the second most common for black women.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_872168.html



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    I am over being accused of being racist. The Mexicans come here with a built in bias because of the caste system in Mexico, and they trade on the color of their skin to get more by claiming discrimination. It is a ploy because Hispanic isn't even a race, it is a mixed ethnicity.

    The Black panther ranting at the voting booth in 2008 was no accident and it seems our new government allows it to happen also.
    The call for the white genocide in South Africa from this country

    Khalid Muhammad - Call for White Genocide!

    Khalid Muhammad - Call for White Genocide! - YouTube



    The South African Government backed by the ANC government looks the other way at the killings in South Africa.

    The Killing Of Whites In South Africa...And America's Silence

    Example of absolute racism.
    Farrakhan is building his army

    The Nation of Islam teaches that white people will be exterminated from the face of North America in the very near future. Farrakhan says that UFO’s will descend from the sky and bomb US military installations to aid blacks in a race war.
    Several followers of the Nation of Islam have become serial killers. A man who served as one of Farrakhan’s bodyguards at the Million Man March went on to become the DC Sniper.
    Here we see that the Nation of Islam is highly organized and aggressively recruiting. The groups has Mosques, businesses, private schools, and properties all over the country. In fact, black only NOI private schools are receiving public tax dollars.

    Video at link.
    Farrakhan is building his army



    Saturday, 04 August 2012 14:00South Africa Facing White Genocide, Total Communist Takeover
    Written by Alex Newman



    While most of the world refuses to acknowledge what is happening in largely communist-controlled South Africa, the non-profit group Genocide Watch declared last month that preparations for genocidal atrocities against white South African farmers were underway and that the early phases of genocide had possibly already begun. In the long run, Genocide Watch chief Dr. Gregory Stanton explained, powerful communist forces also hope to abolish private-property ownership and crush all potential resistance.

    According to experts and official figures, at least 3,000 white farmers in South Africa, known as Boers, have been brutally massacred over the last decade. Many more, including children and even infants, have also been raped or tortured so savagely that mere words could not possibly convey the horror. And the problem is growing worse, international human rights monitors and South African exiles say.

    The South African government, dominated by the communist-backed African National Congress (ANC), has responded to the surging wave of racist murders by denying the phenomenon, implausibly claiming that many of the attacks are simply regular crimes. Despite fierce criticism, authorities also stopped tracking statistics that would provide a more accurate picture of what is truly going on in the so-called “Rainbow Nation.”

    In many cases, the murders are simply classified as “burglaries” and ignored, so the true murder figures are certainly much higher than officials admit. The police, meanwhile, are often involved in the murders or at least the cover-ups, multiple sources report. A white South African exile living in the United States told The New American that when victims are able to defend themselves or apprehend the would-be perpetrators, many of the perpetrators are found to be affiliated with the ruling ANC or its youth wing.

    Experts are not buying the government’s cover-up. "The farm murders, we have become convinced, are not accidental," said Dr. Stanton of Genocide Watch during a fact-finding mission to South Africa last month. It was very clear that the massacres were not common crimes, he added — especially because of the absolute barbarity used against the victims. "We don't know exactly who is planning them yet, but what we are calling for is an international investigation that will try and determine who is planning these murders."

    Indeed, most honest analysts concede that the thousands of brutal killings and tens of thousands of attacks are part of a broader pattern. And according to Dr. Stanton, who was also involved in the anti-Apartheid movement in South Africa and has decades of experience examining genocide and communist terror, the trend points toward a troubled future for the nation.

    “Things of this sort are what I have seen before in other genocides,” he said of the murdered white farmers, pointing to several examples including a victim’s body that was left with an open Bible on top and other murder victims who were tortured, disemboweled, raped, or worse. “This is what has happened in Burundi, it’s what happened in Rwanda. It has happened in many other places in the world.”

    Speaking in Pretoria at an event organized by the anti-communist Transvaal Agricultural Union, Dr. Stanton also slammed the effort to dehumanize whites in South Africa by portraying them as “settlers.” The label is meant to paint Afrikaner white farmers — descendants of Northern Europeans who arrived centuries ago — as people who do not belong there.

    It is the same process that happened prior to the infamous genocide against Christian Armenians in Turkey, Stanton explained. The dehumanization phenomenon also occurred against the Jewish people in Germany under the National Socialist (Nazi) regime of mass-murderer Adolf Hitler, well before the Nazi tyrant began implementing his monstrous “final solution.”

    Unfortunately, South Africa might be next in line, experts believe. "Whenever you have that kind of dehumanization ... you have the beginning of that downward spiral into genocide," Stanton noted, adding that the situation in South Africa had already moved beyond that stage. The next phase before extermination, which began years ago in South Africa, is organizing to actually carry it out.

    "We are worried that there are organized groups that are in fact doing that planning," Stanton continued during his speech. "It became clear to us that the [ANC] Youth League was this kind of organization — it was planning this kind of genocidal massacre and also the forced displacement of whites from South Africa."

    Genocide Watch raised its alert level for South Africa from stage five to stage six — the eighth and final stage is denial after the fact — when then-ANC Youth League boss Julius Malema began openly singing a racist song aimed at inciting murder against white South African farmers: "Shoot the Boer" and “Kill the Boer.” Described by the anti-genocide group as a “racist Marxist-Leninist,” Malema has also been quoted as saying that “all whites are criminals” and threatening to steal white farmers’ land by force.

    After the calls to genocide made international headlines, the South African Supreme Court ruled that the song advocating murder of whites was unlawful hate speech. Incredibly, the President of South Africa, ANC’s Jacob Zuma, then began singing it early this year too. Since then, the number of murdered white South African farmers has been growing each month, according to reports. Other senior government officials, meanwhile, have openly called for “war.”

    "This is the kind of talk that of course is not only pre-genocidal, it also comes before crimes against humanity," Dr. Stanton said, urging everyone to remember that they are all members of the human race. "Those who would be deniers, and who would try to ignore the warning signs in this country, I think are ignoring the facts."

    There is also increasing “polarization,” where the target population — white farmers in this case — and even moderates are portrayed as an “enemy,” Stanton explained about the march to genocide. And that phenomenon is ever-more apparent in South Africa, leading Genocide Watch to classify South Africa as being close to the final stages of genocide in July of this year.

    The issue of land distribution, which has become one of the key drivers of the downward spiral, is also among the greatest concerns. The white minority in South Africa still owns much of the land despite ANC promises to redistribute it to blacks. But the re-distribution that has occurred — like in neighboring Zimbabwe — has largely resulted in failure.

    Despite the atrocious track record so far, extremists including elements of the ANC-dominated government are now hoping to expropriate land from white farmers more quickly, with some factions even arguing that it should be done with no compensation at all. And the communist agenda, like virtually everywhere else where forcible land redistribution has been adopted, has even broader goals.

    “Whatever system of land tenure is adopted in South Africa, the communists — in the long run — have in mind to take away all private property. That should never be forgotten,” Stanton warned, noting that he had lived in communist-run countries before. "Every place you go where communists have taken over, they take away private ownership because private ownership gives people the power — the economic power — to oppose their government. Once you have taken that away, there is no basis on which you can have the economic power to oppose the government."

    Meanwhile, the South African government is stepping up efforts to disarm the struggling white farmers, too — stripping them of their final line of defense. As has consistently been the case throughout history, of course, disarmament is always a necessary precursor to totalitarianism and the eventual mass slaughter of target groups. In fact, arms in the hands of citizens are often the final barrier to complete enslavement and even extermination.

    “The government has disbanded the commando units of white farmers that once protected their farms, and has passed laws to confiscate the farmers’ weapons,” Genocide Watch noted on its website in an update about South Africa posted last month. “Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocidal killings.”

    The exile who spoke with TNA said that many of the guns confiscated from whites by officials have later been found at the gruesome murder scenes of white farmers. Even mere possession of an “unregistered” or “unlicensed” weapon — licenses have become extraordinarily difficult to obtain, if not impossible — can result in jail time. And in South Africa, especially for white farmers, that is a virtual death sentence, with widespread rape and HIV infections being the norm.

    Dr. Stanton promised the Afrikaners that he would be visiting the U.S. Embassy and bringing the issue to the attention of world leaders. However, he also urged them not to give up their guns and to continue resisting against the communist “ideology” espoused by so many of the political and party leaders that now dominate the nation’s coercive government apparatus.

    The United Nations defines genocide as "the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group." The term also includes actions other than simply wholesale slaughter, though. According to the UN, among the crimes that can constitute genocide are causing serious harm to members of a specific minority group, deliberately inflicting conditions on the minority aimed at bringing about its destruction in whole or in part, seeking to prevent births among the targeted population, and forcibly transferring minority children to others.

    Activists and exiles argue that many of those conditions have already been met — and any single one can technically constitute genocide if it is part of a systematic attempt to destroy a particular group. Meanwhile, experts say that the government is encouraging the problem, actively discriminating against whites, and in many cases even facilitating the on-going atrocities.

    Of course, this would not be the first time a similar tragedy has happened in Southern Africa. When Marxist dictator Robert Mugabe seized power in Zimbabwe (formerly known as Rhodesia, once one of the richest countries on the continent), he began a ruthless war against the white population and his political opponents.

    The country promptly spiraled into chaos and mass starvation under the Mugabe regime when the tyrant “redistributed” the farms and wealth to his cronies, who of course knew nothing about farming. The regime murdered tens of thousands of victims, and estimates suggest that millions have died as a direct result of Mugabe’s Marxist policies.

    Whites who refused to leave their property during the “redistribution” were often tortured and killed by the regime or its death squads. With Mugabe still in charge, the tragic plight of Zimbabwe continues to worsen today. But the mass-murdering despot is still held in high regard by many senior officials in the ANC.

    Not all South Africans — especially city dwellers — are convinced that there is an on-going genocide in their country, or even that one may be coming. Indeed, the vast majority of blacks and whites would simply like to live in peace with each other, and there are plenty of other problems facing South Africa at the same time. However, virtually everyone agrees that without solutions, the precarious situation in the “Rainbow Nation” will continue to deteriorate, going from bad to worse.

    Many activists seeking to draw attention to the issue are calling on European governments and the United States to immediately begin accepting especially vulnerable white refugees from South Africa as a high priority. There are less than five million whites in the country, about 10 percent of the population, down from almost a quarter decades ago. Analysts say that giving them asylum, however, may prove tough politically — partly because it could expose the precious establishment myths of Nelson Mandela and his ANC as being “heroic” so-called “freedom fighters.”
    Unsurprisingly, the establishment press has barely reported a word about the looming potential calamity. And by the time the world media finally catch on, many analysts worry that it might be too late.
    South Africa Facing White Genocide, Total Communist Takeover


    Ignoring this blatant racism and talk of murder based on the color of one's skin seems to be OK in some circles. according to J Christian Adams, the DOJ has refused to prosecute Black on white crime. Interesting.

    Black Unemployment Crisis: Loss Of Government Jobs Hurts African Americans Hardest
    First Posted: 06/07/11 08:26 AM ETUpdated: 08/07/11 06:12 AM ET



    Black Unemployment Crisis: Loss Of Government Jobs Hurts African Americans Hardest



    I personally believe that every race and nation has a right to self determination-to continue to exist with no hassle from someone else-and this includes the White race. And I believe the one who sins is the one who should be punished alone.

    I would like to see some or all of those vulnerable White Africans come over here....they would not be so quickly to be lulled to sleep concerning White genocide as those who have yet to experience it here...and could likely help us fight back....though Europe needs all the help it can get as well.
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    WOW SicandTired-I had no idea this was going on! :_( Time to pray for those being victimized right now AND demand justice of the governments allowing this to happen.

    Yes, it's really, really bad over there. They not only need prayers, they need OUT of there. The blacks over there are killing the farmers, old people and women to the point that the agricultural output of SA has dropped dramatically. They are literally killing off the people who are feeding them! They are not being killed in "robberies" like the media over there usually says. Given the utter brutality of these crimes - it is most definitely a HATE crime.

    The first mistake was allowing themselves to be disarmed as they are sitting ducks for black murderers. They have to go through a lengthy process to get the license for each and every gun and a lot of times the application gets "lost" and then they have to start from square one all over again. Prime example of why we here in the states should NEVER give our guns up.

    How can anyone blame Oscar Pistorius for being so paranoid? To be white,wealthy and living in Pretoria, SA is like having a target on your back. Top that off with only having half your legs on while you sleep and I can totally see why this tragedy happened the way it did.
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