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On Monday, July 13, 2009, at 3:49 PM EDT, Debra3401 posted:
Obama eligibility case will be heard on merits!!
GREAT NEWS ALERT!!
Obama eligibility case will be heard on merits !!
Please distribute everywhere.
Just got off the phone with Orly Taitz, the attorney in Keyes v. Obama.
At the hearing today at the Federal Court building in Santa Ana, [California,] [U.S. District] Judge [David O.] Carter said the following:
1. There will be a trial.
2. It will be heard on the merits.
3. Nothing will be dismissed on procedural issues. [Mr. Obama's 3 law firms have used "lack of standing to bring suit" to get 48 previous lawsuits dismissed without presentation or hearing on the merits.]
4. The trial will be expeditious, and the judge pledged to give case priority.
5. Being a former Marine he realizes the importance of having a Constitutionally qualified POTUS/CINC.
6. Judge stated that if Obama isn’t Constitutionally qualified he needs to leave the White House.
The DOJ will be involved with the case also…. I wasn’t clear if they would be trying to get to the truth or they would just be blindly representing Obama.
Orly will be adding members of the military from California as plaintiffs also. This is from my interpretation of our conversation. Orly asked me to disseminate this information out for her, she will be doing a posting later after she gets some sleep.
Please say a prayer of protection for Orly, her family, and Judge Carter.
Please also pray that the truth will come to light regarding Obama and justice will be done.
Obama eligibility case will be heard on merits !!
Please distribute everywhere.
Just got off the phone with Orly Taitz, the attorney in Keyes v. Obama.
At the hearing today at the Federal Court building in Santa Ana, Judge Carter said the following:
1. There will be a trial.
2. It will be heard on the merits.
3. Nothing will be dismissed on proceedural issues.
4. The trial will be expeditious, and the judge pledged to give case priority.
5. Being a former Marine he realizes the importance of having a Constitutionally qualified POTUS/CINC.
6. Judge stated that if Obama isn’t Constitutionally qualifed he needs to leave the White House.
The DOJ will be involved with the case also…. I wasn’t clear if they would be trying to get to the truth or they would just be blindly representing Obama.
Orly will be adding members of the military from California as plaintiffs also.This is from what my interpretation of our conversation.Orly, asked me to disseminate this information out for her, she will be doing a posting later after she gets some sleep.
Please say a prayer of protection for Orly, her family, and Judge Carter. Please also pray that the truth will come to light regarding Obama and justice will be done.
Dr Orly Taitz, Esq site here!
WOOHOO!!! _________________ The difference between an immigrant and an illegal alien is the equivalent of the difference between a burglar and a houseguest.
U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, set to deploy to Afghanistan, says he shouldn’t have to go.
His reason?
Barack Obama was never eligible to be president because he wasn’t born in the United States.
Actually, Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, two years after it became a state.
Cook’s lawyer, Orly Taitz, who has also challenged the legitimacy of Obama’s presidency in other courts, filed a request last week in federal court seeking a temporary restraining order and status as a conscientious objector for his client.
In the 20-page document — filed July 8 with the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia — the California-based Taitz asks the court to consider granting his client’s request based upon Cook’s belief that Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed Forces.
Cook further states he “would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President’s command. ... simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties.”
Cook, a reservist, received the orders mobilizing him to active duty on June 9.
According to this document, which accompanies Cook’s July 8 application for a temporary restraining order, he has been ordered to report to MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Fla., on Wednesday. From there, the Florida resident would go to Fort Benning before deploying overseas.
A hearing to discuss Cook’s requests will take place in federal court here Thursday at 9:30 a.m. _________________ Work Harder Millions on Welfare Depend on You!
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:26 pm Post subject:
Great news! Let's keep a close eye on this! _________________ ...I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism & everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid...
William Barret Travis
Letter From The Alamo Feb 24, 1836
U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, set to deploy to Afghanistan, says he shouldn’t have to go.
His reason?
Barack Obama was never eligible to be president because he wasn’t born in the United States.
Actually, Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, two years after it became a state.
You have some proof that Obama was born in Hawaii? We've all been looking for it without success. _________________ "If you want to piss off conservatives, tell them lies....
If you want to piss off liberals, tell them the truth..."
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:07 pm Post subject: U.S. officer demands: Is Army "corps of chattel slaves?
BORN IN THE USA?
U.S. officer demands answer: Is Army 'corps of chattel slaves?' Court challenge demands conscientious objector status unless evidence provided
Posted: July 11, 2009
12:05 am Eastern
A U.S. Army Reserve major from Florida with orders to report for deployment to Afghanistan within days has filed a court demand to be classified as a "conscientious objector" because without proof of the commander-in-chief's eligibility for office, the entire army "becomes merely a corps of chattel slaves under the illegitimate control of a private citizen."
A hearing on the questions raised by Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, an engineer who told WND he wants to serve his country in Afghanistan, already has been scheduled for July 16 at 9:30 a.m., according to California attorney Orly Taitz, who is handling the claim.
Cook told WND he's ready, willing and able to carry out the military needs of the United States, but he raised the challenge to Barack Obama's eligibility to be president because if he would be captured by enemy forces while serving overseas under the orders of an illegitimate president, he could be considered a "war criminal."
"As an officer in the armed forces of the United States, it is [my] duty to gain clarification on any order we may believe illegal. With that said, if President Obama is found not to be a 'natural-born citizen,' he is not eligible to be commander-in-chief," he told WND only hours after the case was filed.
"[Then] any order coming out of the presidency or his chain of command is illegal. Should I deploy, I would essentially be following an illegal [order]. If I happened to be captured by the enemy in a foreign land, I would not be privy to the Geneva Convention protections," he said.
The order for the hearing in the federal court for the Middle District of Georgia from U.S. District Judge Clay D. Land said the hearing on the request for a temporary restraining order will be held Thursday.
Cook said without a legitimate president as commander-in-chief, members of the U.S. military in overseas actions could be determined to be "war criminals and subject to prosecution."
He said the vast array of information about Obama that is not available to the public confirms to him that "something is amiss."
"That and the fact the individual who is occupying the White House has not been entirely truthful with anybody," he said. "Every time anyone has made an inquiry, it has been either cast aside, it has been maligned, it has been laughed at or just dismissed summarily without further investigation.
"You know what. It would be so simple to solve. Just produce the long-form document, certificate of live birth," he said.
He said he is scheduled to report for duty one day before his hearing, on July 15, and while other details are not public, he knows he is scheduled to deploy to Afghanistan as part of President Obama's plan to increase pressure of insurgent forces there.
He told WND he is prepared for a backlash against him as a military officer, since members of the military swear to uphold and follow their orders. However, he noted that following an illegal order would be just as bad as failing to follow a legal order.
"What I want to do is deploy to Afghanistan, do my job as an Army officer, engineer. I do not want to subject myself to the possibility that I might be violating the [Uniform Code of Military Justice]," he said.
Named as defendants in the case are Col. Wanda Good, Col. Thomas Macdonald, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Obama, described as "de facto president of the United States."
According to the court filing, Cook affirmed when he joined the military, he took the following oath: "I, Stefan Frederick Cook, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the president of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to the regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
According to the claim, "Plaintiff submits that it is implicit though not expressly stated that an officer is and should be subject to court-martial, because he will be derelict in the performance of his duties, if he does not inquire as to the lawfulness, the legality, the legitimacy of the orders which he has received, whether those orders are specific or general."
The military courts offer no option for raising the question, so he turned to civilian courts to consider "a question of paramount constitutional and legal importance: the validity of the chain of command under a president whose election, eligibility, and constitutional status appear open to serious question."
"Others may cynically ridicule this plaintiff when, as an officer responsible not only to obey those above him but to protect those under his command, he comes to this court asking for the right to establish the legality of orders received not only for his own protection, but for the protection of all enlisted men and women who depend on HIS judgment that the orders he follows are legal. Above all, when Plaintiff Major Stefan Frederick Cook submits and contends that he files and will prosecute this lawsuit and seeks an injunction or temporary restraining order against the enforcement of potentially illegal orders for the benefit of all servicemen and women and for the benefit of all officers in all branches of the U.S. military, he knows that those in power illegitimately may seek to injure his career. He knows that he risks all and he does so in the conscientious belief that he does so for not merely his own, but the general good," according to the court filing.
"Plaintiff files this suit to clarify how he can both obey all lawful orders and avoid dereliction of his duties so as to escape court-martial under the UCMJ if he does NOT question the legality of the orders he has received. Plaintiff seeks to avoid not only court-martial in this country, but also treatment as a war-criminal or terrorist, not eligible even for protection under the Geneva Convention, if he were found to be a merely mercenary soldier in a private army of slaves, 'owned' or controlled by an unconstitutional and therefore illegal commander, if he does not ask the question: 'is this order legal?'" the case pleading states.
"Is an officer entitled to refuse orders on grounds of conscientious objection to the legitimate constitutional authority of the current de facto Commander-in-Chief?" is the question that must be answered, the case contends.
"In the alternative, is an officer entitled to a judicial stay of the enforcement of facially valid military orders where that officer can show evidence that the chain-of-command from the commander-in-chief is tainted by illegal activity?
"The issue or question raised by this suit is uniquely federal and properly (and in fact necessarily) subject to the exercise of federal power: the question whether the constitutional legitimacy of the chain of command under a constitutionally legitimate commander-in-chief pursuant to Article II, §§1-2 of the Constitution is essential to the maintenance of balance of powers and separation of powers under the Constitution, and cannot be lightly dismissed in light of the plaintiff's evidence that the de facto president of the United States is not only constitutionally unqualified, but procured his election by fraudulent and illegitimate means which may constitute a pattern of racketeering utilizing the apparatus of corrupt organizations in violation of 18 U.S.C. §1961 et seq," it alleges.
Among the officer's arguments:
* "The evidence contained in Exhibit B shows that Barack Hussein Obama might have used as many as 149 addresses and 39 social security numbers prior to assuming the office of president."
* "Exhibit C, the expert affidavit of renowned forensic document examiner Sandra Ramsey Lines, states that the certification of live birth posted by Mr. Obama as verification of his legitimacy cannot be verified as genuine and should be presumed fraudulent. "
* "Hawaiian statute 338 allows foreign born children of Hawaiian residents to obtain Hawaiian birth certificates, that those birth certificates can be obtained based on a statement of one relative only without any corroborating evidence from the hospital; that 'late birth certificates' (i.e. non-contemporaneously, post-facto, in two words 'potentially fabricated') can lawfully, under this statute, be obtained at any time later in life.
* "Barack Hussein Obama’s original birth certificate was never provided by the state of Hawaii, but only a statement that there is an original 'long birth certificate' document on file. The statement repeatedly provided by Hawaiian officials is quite simply incomplete, evasive, and without explanation of critical details: namely, whether it is a foreign birth certification or one obtained based on a statement of one relative only, or a late certification or amended one, obtained upon adoption by his stepfather."
"In other words, plaintiff asks this court to rule, declare, and adjudge, pursuant to 42 U.S.C. §1988(a), that an officer of the Army of the United States (all officers!) must have the right to question apparently illegitimate authority in the courts or else in the course of his employment as an officer directly within the army chain of command or in both capacities and by both manners.
"Barack Hussein Obama, in order to prove his constitutional eligibility to serve as president, basically needs only produce a single unique historical document for the Plaintiff’s inspection and authentication: namely, the 'long-form' birth certificate which will confirm whether Barack Hussein Obama was in fact born to parents who were both citizens of the United States in Honolulu, Hawaii, in or about 1961," explains the complaint.
Taitz has filed multiple legal actions around the country alleging Obama does not meet the constitutional requirements to occupy the Oval Office.
...
Now a pleading has been submitted by Thomas P. O'Brein, Leon Weidman, Roger West and David DeJute, U.S. attorneys or assistants, claiming the federal government has an interest in the claim made against Obama's actions before he took office.
The lawyers claim it is "indisputable" that the government has an interest in actions Obama took prior to his inauguration, and, therefore, the government must be served with proper notice of the action. The attorneys claim that wasn't done.
In still another case, Taitz had submitted a request to the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the U.S. military to consider military justice code complaints filed by individual members of the military challenging Obama's eligibility.
In response, J.W. Crawford III, legal counsel for the chiefs, confirmed that he had forwarded her concerns and information to the "office of General Counsel, Litigation Counsel" for further review.
Multiple questions have been raised about what that would mean to the 2008 election, to the orders and laws Obama has signed and other issues, including whether he then is a valid commander-in-chief of the military. _________________ One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow we may wake up as illegals.
A modern American Military Hero—Major Stefan Frederick Cook
July 14, 2009 · Leave a Comment
Given what he is risking to do what he sees as his Patriotic Duty, Major Stefan Cook is as courageous a hero than I for one have EVER met. He is not a sunshine soldier or summertime Patriot, as Thomas Paine once wrote (1776) in Common Sense. These ARE the times that try men’s souls.
People who do not understand what it means for an officer to weigh his career against the possibilities of committing men under him to illegal wars and combat under an illegitimate leader have never learned and will never understand the lessons of history from Nuremberg or of [Adolf] Eichmann in Jerusalem. [snip]
It is my hope and opinion that Major Stefan Cook, if he is not crushed by social and political pressure, will make a more lasting impression on U.S. military history and foreign policy than anyone else over the past 30-50 years. An ethical army can only exist if we have conscious officers in command of our armed forces. The existence of a standing army under the virtually exclusive and discretionary control of the increasingly powerful executive branch in the United States constitutes a threat (recognized by the Founding Fathers) to the balance of powers and our Federal Republican form of government.
To counterbalance the nearly absolute power of the president the people must demand and support an officer corps with legal awareness and consciousness as well as strategic, tactical, and technical competence. The modern armed forces can move so quickly in this day and age that the ability to make “in the field” and “on base” legal judgments on the part of officers has become absolutely essential in this day-and-time.
I for one am proud to be a part of the legal team, with Dr. Orly Taitz, which tries to realize Major Stefan Frederick Cook’s hopes and dreams for a better world and a better America. The rule of Constitutional Law is paramount in this country, and confidence in the Constitutional qualifications and plain honest of our leadership is indispensable. I for one have little or no such confidence in the current administration, I will have no truck or dealings with anyone who impugns this military man’s great, unparalleled courage and dedication to principle.
It is an old joke that “army intelligence is an oxymoron.” Intelligence is sometimes characterized by an individual’s courage to change the things he can, the serenity to accept the things he cannot, and the wisdom to know the difference. Major Stefan Frederick Cook is taking a valiant chance here that he can change the transparency of his government’s leadership and their responsiveness to public concerns. Major Cook’s choice, his decision to risk all for conscience, his bravery, and acumen shown in his statement quoted on this blog below proves just high his “army intelligence” really is. _________________ One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow we may wake up as illegals.
Did he think he could avoid that obvious comment by visiting Ghana instead of Kenya?
Try neighboring Burkina Faso next time. Maybe they won't know what most other Africans know...
what everyone in Kenya knows. _________________ One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow we may wake up as illegals.
Did he think he could avoid that obvious comment by visiting Ghana instead of Kenya?
Try neighboring Burkina Faso next time. Maybe they won't know what most other Africans know...
what everyone in Kenya knows.
Will the American public really get the facts or just another forgery then told to shut up?!!! I mean you have to consider that this is all an elaborate show to just put it all to rest so that the powers that be can continue their NWO agenda?!! _________________ Work Harder Millions on Welfare Depend on You!
I tried to post or link this eyewash for blinded Obots at the LA Times blog.
But the LA Times wouldn't take it. "We're sorry. We cannot post this data."
For those with eyes to see and ears to hear...
1. John Jay advised George Washington specifically to eliminate any possibility of an English nobleman marrying
an American citizen and having a son become the President. The Framers of the Constitution understood a
"natural born Citizen" to be a citizen with no other loyalties at birth, that is, one born in the country of parents
who were then citizens. Every elected President born since 1787 was born on soil under U.S. jurisdiction,
of parents who were both U.S. citizens at the time of that birth.
Until now.
2. Barack Obama Snr., a Kenyan, was a British protected citizen, which made Barack Obama II also
a British protected citizen, whose "birth was governed by British law," as Mr. Obama wrote in his book.
Dual citizenship is prima facie NOT natural born citizenship.
Can anyone explain how a person whose birth was governed by British law could possibly be a natural born citizen
of the United States? We're waiting...
3. The last person who could vouch for Mr. Obama's Hawaiian birth, his Grandmother Dunham in Honolulu,
died the day before the election.
All we have left is a computer-generated image that two or three counterfeiting and forgery experts
have declared a fake. If you doubt their expert testimony, here is a list of a dozen flaws in the computer graphics.
Knock yourself out.
http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-137238-days0-orderasc-1376.html
4. Grandmothers don't lie, politicians do.
His paternal step-grandmother has testified that she was present at his birth in the hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.
His half-sister and half-brother have joined her in that claim. Everyone in Kenya knows he was born in Kenya.
On Nov. 5, the day after the election, the Kenyan National Assembly went on record stating, in reference to Kenyan
celebrations of Mr. Obama’s election victory, that a “Kenyan is ruling the USA,” and declared the day a national holiday.
No one was coming to work that day anyway.
The Kenyan Ambassador to the U.S., H. E. Peter Ogego, speaking of "President-elect Obama," said that his
birthplace [in Kenya] is well-known.
WRIF/Detroit - Fellhauer: “One more quick question, President-elect Obama’s birthplace over in Kenya,
is that going to be a national spot to go visit, where he was born?”
Ogego: “It’s already an attraction. His paternal grandmother is still alive.”
WRIF/Detroit - Fellhauer: “His birthplace, they’ll put up a marker there?”
Ogego: “It would depend on the government. It’s already well known.”
For those who still think Mr. Obama is a natural born citizen and as such is Constitutionally qualified
for the Presidency, your own Ronald Reagan had this to say,
"Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant;
it's just that they know so much that isn't so." _________________ One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow we may wake up as illegals.
Joined: May 16, 2006 Posts: 1758 Location: Getyourassoutahere, Texas
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:31 am Post subject:
Minuteman, as you have well indicated, Obama's cronies are busy cleaning and controlling the internet and media. This is pretty scary stuff and I wonder how many people even realize what's happening right under their noses?!
MinutemanCDC_SC wrote:
I tried to post or link this eyewash for blinded Obots at the LA Times blog.
But the LA Times wouldn't take it. "We're sorry. We cannot post this data."
For those with eyes to see and ears to hear...
1. John Jay advised George Washington specifically to eliminate any possibility of an English nobleman marrying
an American citizen and having a son become the President. The Framers of the Constitution understood a
"natural born Citizen" to be a citizen with no other loyalties at birth, that is, one born in the country of parents
who were then citizens. Every elected President born since 1787 was born on soil under U.S. jurisdiction,
of parents who were both U.S. citizens at the time of that birth.
Until now.
2. Barack Obama Snr., a Kenyan, was a British protected citizen, which made Barack Obama II also
a British protected citizen, whose "birth was governed by British law," as Mr. Obama wrote in his book.
Dual citizenship is prima facie NOT natural born citizenship.
Can anyone explain how a person whose birth was governed by British law could possibly be a natural born citizen
of the United States? We're waiting...
3. The last person who could vouch for Mr. Obama's Hawaiian birth, his Grandmother Dunham in Honolulu,
died the day before the election.
All we have left is a computer-generated image that two or three counterfeiting and forgery experts
have declared a fake. If you doubt their expert testimony, here is a list of a dozen flaws in the computer graphics.
Knock yourself out.
http://www.alipac.us/ftopic-137238-days0-orderasc-1376.html
4. Grandmothers don't lie, politicians do.
His paternal step-grandmother has testified that she was present at his birth in the hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.
His half-sister and half-brother have joined her in that claim. Everyone in Kenya knows he was born in Kenya.
On Nov. 5, the day after the election, the Kenyan National Assembly went on record stating, in reference to Kenyan
celebrations of Mr. Obama’s election victory, that a “Kenyan is ruling the USA,” and declared the day a national holiday.
No one was coming to work that day anyway.
The Kenyan Ambassador to the U.S., H. E. Peter Ogego, speaking of "President-elect Obama," said that his
birthplace [in Kenya] is well-known.
WRIF/Detroit - Fellhauer: “One more quick question, President-elect Obama’s birthplace over in Kenya,
is that going to be a national spot to go visit, where he was born?”
Ogego: “It’s already an attraction. His paternal grandmother is still alive.”
WRIF/Detroit - Fellhauer: “His birthplace, they’ll put up a marker there?”
Ogego: “It would depend on the government. It’s already well known.”
For those who still think Mr. Obama is a natural born citizen and as such is Constitutionally qualified
for the Presidency, your own Ronald Reagan had this to say,
"Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant;
it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
_________________ ...I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism & everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid...
William Barret Travis
Letter From The Alamo Feb 24, 1836
Joined: Nov 29, 2008 Posts: 487 Location: Portland, ME
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:50 am Post subject:
MinutemanCDC_SC wrote:
I tried to post or link this eyewash for blinded Obots at the LA Times blog.
But the LA Times wouldn't take it. "We're sorry. We cannot post this data."
MinuteMan,
I've never tried to do the online submission to any news paper. My only contact with the newspapers in the past has been through the opinion pages, and even on those pages there have often been topic filters - for about twenty years I can recall - maybe forever, I don't know. Having said that, the days of news print may have past.
I think conservative, Christian, law abiding folks missed the boat by not having more news channels of their own. Even the Christian Science Monitor (Boston) has stopped its newspaper printing and has an online presence only.
In the LA basin, Orange County is the conservative stronghold. You might try the Orange County Register (http://www.ocregister.com/) - it's the newspaper for all conservative readers, and I would bet there are already articles and submissions on this topic. _________________ "If you want to piss off conservatives, tell them lies....
If you want to piss off liberals, tell them the truth..."
Joined: Aug 17, 2007 Posts: 4382 Location: Indiana, formerly of Northern Cal
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:47 am Post subject:
I have hope, but I am afraid something is going to happen to stop this judge _________________ Proud American and wife of a wonderful <strong>LEGAL</strong> immigrant from Ireland.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing." -Edmund Burke (1729-1797)
A U.S. Army Reserve major from Florida scheduled to report for deployment to Afghanistan within days has had his military orders revoked after arguing he should not be required to serve under a president who has not proven his eligibility for office.
His attorney, Orly Taitz, confirmed to WND the military has rescinded his impending deployment orders.
"We won! We won before we even arrived," she said with excitement. "It means that the military has nothing to show for Obama. It means that the military has directly responded by saying Obama is illegitimate – and they cannot fight it. Therefore, they are revoking the order!"
She continued, "They just said, 'Order revoked.' No explanation. No reasons – just revoked."
A hearing on the questions raised by Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, an engineer who told WND he wants to serve his country in Afghanistan, was scheduled for July 16 at 9:30 a.m.
"As an officer in the armed forces of the United States, it is [my] duty to gain clarification on any order we may believe illegal. With that said, if President Obama is found not to be a 'natural-born citizen,' he is not eligible to be commander-in-chief," he told WND only hours after the case was filed.
"[Then] any order coming out of the presidency or his chain of command is illegal. Should I deploy, I would essentially be following an illegal [order]. If I happened to be captured by the enemy in a foreign land, I would not be privy to the Geneva Convention protections," he said.
The order for the hearing in the federal court for the Middle District of Georgia from U.S. District Judge Clay D. Land said the hearing on the request for a temporary restraining order would be held Thursday.
Want to turn up the pressure to learn the facts? Get your signs and postcards asking for the president's birth certificate documentation here.
Cook said without a legitimate president as commander-in-chief, members of the U.S. military in overseas actions could be determined to be "war criminals and subject to prosecution."
He said the vast array of information about Obama that is not available to the public confirms to him "something is amiss."
"That and the fact the individual who is occupying the White House has not been entirely truthful with anybody," he said. "Every time anyone has made an inquiry, it has been either cast aside, it has been maligned, it has been laughed at or just dismissed summarily without further investigation.
"You know what. It would be so simple to solve. Just produce the long-form document, certificate of live birth," he said.
Cook said he was scheduled to report for duty tomorrow, on July 15, to deploy to Afghanistan as part of President Obama's plan to increase pressure of insurgent forces there.
He told WND he would be prepared for a backlash against him as a military officer, since members of the military swear to uphold and follow their orders. However, he noted that following an illegal order would be just as bad as failing to follow a legal order.
Before news of the orders being revoked were reported, MSNBC anchor Keith Olbermann tonight called Cook a "jackass" and Taitz a "conwoman," as he labeled both of them the "worst persons in the world." He flayed the soldier as "an embarrassment to all those who have served without cowardice."
Named as defendants in the case are Col. Wanda Good, Col. Thomas Macdonald, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Obama, described as "de facto president of the United States."
According to the court filing, Cook affirmed when he joined the military, he took the following oath: "I, Stefan Frederick Cook, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the president of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to the regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
According to the claim, "Plaintiff submits that it is implicit though not expressly stated that an officer is and should be subject to court-martial, because he will be derelict in the performance of his duties, if he does not inquire as to the lawfulness, the legality, the legitimacy of the orders which he has received, whether those orders are specific or general."
The military courts offer no option for raising the question, so he turned to civilian courts to consider "a question of paramount constitutional and legal importance: the validity of the chain of command under a president whose election, eligibility, and constitutional status appear open to serious question."
"Barack Hussein Obama, in order to prove his constitutional eligibility to serve as president, basically needs only produce a single unique historical document for the Plaintiff’s inspection and authentication: namely, the 'long-form' birth certificate which will confirm whether Barack Hussein Obama was in fact born to parents who were both citizens of the United States in Honolulu, Hawaii, in or about 1961," explains the complaint.
Taitz said she will attend the hearing to amend the temporary restraining order to an injunction because more members of the military have joined the cause.
"We are going to be asking for release of Obama's records because now this completely undermines the military. It revoked this order, but it can come up with another order tomorrow. It can come up with orders for other people," she said. "Am I going to be flying around the country 1,000 times and paying the fees every time they issue an order?"
Taitz said the issue "must be resolved immediately," and she will continue working to ensure Obama proves he is eligible for office.
"We're going to be asking the judge to issue an order for Obama to provide his vital records to show he is legitimately president," she said. "We're going to say, we have orders every day, and we'll have revocations every day. This issue has to be decided."
She said there cannot be any harm to the president if he is legitimately holding office.
"If he is legitimate, then his vital records will prove it," Taitz said. "If he is illegitimate, then he should not have been there in the first place."
Asked what this decision means for every other serviceman who objects to deployment under a president who has not proven he is eligible for office, Taitz responded:
"Now, we can have each and every member of the military – each and every enlistee and officer – file something similar saying 'I will not take orders until Obama is legitimately vetted.'"
Multiple questions have been raised about what that would mean to the 2008 election, to the orders and laws Obama has signed and other issues, including whether he then is a valid commander-in-chief of the military.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ _________________ "If you want to piss off conservatives, tell them lies....
If you want to piss off liberals, tell them the truth..."
Obama eligibility case will be heard on merits !!
Please distribute everywhere.
Just got off the phone with Orly Taitz, the attorney in Keyes v. Obama.
At the hearing today at the Federal Court building in Santa Ana, Judge Carter said the following:
1. There will be a trial.
2. It will be heard on the merits.
3. Nothing will be dismissed on proceedural issues.
4. The trial will be expeditious, and the judge pledged to give case priority.
5. Being a former Marine he realizes the importance of having a Constitutionally qualified POTUS/CINC.
6. Judge stated that if Obama isn’t Constitutionally qualifed he needs to leave the White House.
The DOJ will be involved with the case also…. I wasn’t clear if they would be trying to get to the truth or they would just be blindly representing Obama.
Orly will be adding members of the military from California as plaintiffs also.This is from what my interpretation of our conversation.Orly, asked me to disseminate this information out for her, she will be doing a posting later after she gets some sleep.
Please say a prayer of protection for Orly, her family, and Judge Carter. Please also pray that the truth will come to light regarding Obama and justice will be done.
Dr Orly Taitz, Esq site here!
WOOHOO!!!
*****
I believe that Obama is a fraud and a liar, but I'm sorry, I don't think this California lawsuit is going anywhere.
I have the sad feeling that this California judge will quickly dismiss this lawsuit like other judges across the country have done several times in the past.
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: BORN IN THE USA?
WorldNetDaily.com wrote:
Bombshell: Orders revoked for soldier challenging prez
Major victory for Army warrior questioning Obama's birthplace
"We won! We won before we even arrived," she said with excitement. "It means that the military has nothing to show for Obama. It means that the military has directly responded by saying Obama is illegitimate – and they cannot fight it. Therefore, they are revoking the order!"
She continued, "They just said, 'Order revoked.' No explanation. No reasons – just revoked."
Maj. Cook won, but it is a calculated concession by the military. They avoided a court decision which would establish a precedent for other military personnel who want orders issued through a legitimate chain of command, that is, one headed by a lawful, Constitutionally eligible, Commander-in-Chief.
Or maybe the Army felt this particular case was just too much trouble.
Without regard to the legitimacy of the CinC, or even if there were no CinC, the military must independently maintain its internal authority and its ability to issue orders. In other words, the CinC is not the identity of the military, and the military is more than an agent of the CinC; it exists in its own right. And that's a good thing.
It would have been hard for the military attorneys to claim that Maj. Stefan Cook did not have standing to bring suit, especially since he was the defendant.
It is widely known throughout Europe and Africa that Kenyan-born Barack Obama is not a lawful U.S. President. Therefore, it would have been impossible to claim that Maj. Cook's argument was specious, that the Geneva Convention would not protect him if he were captured.
In this case in the U.S. District Court in Columbus, Georgia, are the three notorious, "devil's advocate" law firms, involved?
____________________________________________________
DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
U.S. ARMY HUMAN RESOURCES COMMAND
1 RESERVE WAY
ST. LOUIS, MO 63132-5200
AHRC-PLM-S 14 JUL 2009
ORDERS A-06-916551R
COOK STEFAN FREDERICK EAD8 MAJ EN 000 00 0000
W096AA
THE FOLLOWING ORDER IS REVOKED OR RESCINDED AS SHOWN.
ACTION: REVOKE
SO MUCH OF: FORMAT 162 A-06-916551 AHRC DATED 09 JUN 2009
After nearly six months of postponements in Keyes v. Obama, Mr. Obama's defense attorneys didn't even show up in court! The U.S. Attorneys had to step in, even though Orly Taitz maintained that Mr. Obama was not eligible for taxpayer-provided counsel as President in a case filed before the inauguration.
Perhaps his 3 law firms decided the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, California (convenient to Hollywood), should be the scene of the showdown.
Please offer ideas about why Mr. Obama's civilian attorneys chose to default at the opening hearing. _________________ One man's terrorist is another man's undocumented worker.
Unless we enforce laws against illegal aliens today,
tomorrow we may wake up as illegals.
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:12 pm Post subject:
MinutemanCDC_SC wrote:
After nearly six months of postponements in Keyes v. Obama, Mr. Obama's defense attorneys didn't even show up in court! The U.S. Attorneys had to step in, even though Orly Taitz maintained that Mr. Obama was not eligible for taxpayer-provided counsel as President in a case filed before the inauguration.
Perhaps his 3 law firms decided the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, California (convenient to Hollywood), should be the scene of the showdown.
Please offer ideas about why Mr. Obama's civilian attorneys chose to default at the opening hearing.
A couple of thoughts.
1. Orange County is a conservative county in an otherwise really liberal state. So, if you're going to have a constitutional case heard, this might be a good place for the good guys to do it. Bad for Obama, good for us.
2. Why didn't Obama's civilian attorneys attend the hearing? Jurisdiction. If I'm correct in my thinking, had Obama appeared in any manner, he would have been granting the court jurisdiction over him personally, and we know he doesn't want to do that. Much better for him to have the U.S. government defend him than to have the burden placed on himself. Also remember that his strategy has been to delay, delay, delay, and provide nothing requested from him.
FreedomFirst, you must have some thoughts on this question. _________________ "If you want to piss off conservatives, tell them lies....
If you want to piss off liberals, tell them the truth..."
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:09 pm Post subject:
Challenge of Obama’s citizenship gains ground
July 14th, 2009, 4:01 pm
by Martin Wisckol, Politics reporter
Conservative activist Alan Keyes‘ legal challenge of President Barack Obama’s citizenship won a small victory in Santa Ana on Monday when U.S. District Judge David Carter agreed to hear “the merits” of the case, according to this item on the Huffington Post blog.
The theory is that Obama was born outside the country and that his birth certificate is fake, a sentiment I explored in this story last year. A similar lawsuit filed last year was thrown out, as I noted here.
Those challenging Obama’s citizenship cheered Monday’s decision, while a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s Office brushed it aside as procedural.
Another interesting item in the Huffington Post entry is a lawsuit defending a soldier who refuses to be deployed to Afghanistan because Obama is not legitimately president.
The prevailing view of Obama’s citizenship has been voiced by PolitiFact.com:
“It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world’s biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything’s possible. But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what’s reasonable has to take over.”
The Annenberg Public Policy Institute examined Obama’s birth certificate firsthand and authenticated it in this report. The rundown includes photographs of the certificate as well as an investigation into evidence presented by those skeptical of the president’s nationality.
The Associated Press. "State declares Obama birth certificate genuine" 31 Oct 2008.
Nakaso, Dan. "Obama's certificate of birth OK, state says; Health director issues voucher in response to 'ridiculous' barrage" Honolulu Advertiser 1 Nov 2008.
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Born in the U.S.A.
August 21, 2008
Updated: November 1, 2008
The truth about Obama's birth certificate.
Summary
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."
We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu.
Analysis
Update Nov. 1: The Associated Press quoted Chiyome Fukino as saying that both she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.
Fukino also was quoted by several other news organizations. The Honolulu Advertiser quoted Fukino as saying the agency had been bombarded by requests, and that the registrar of statistics had even been called in at home in the middle of the night.
Honolulu Advertiser, Nov. 1 2008: "This has gotten ridiculous," state health director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said yesterday. "There are plenty of other, important things to focus on, like the economy, taxes, energy." . . . Will this be enough to quiet the doubters? "I hope so," Fukino said. "We need to get some work done."
Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."
Since we first wrote about Obama's birth certificate on June 16, speculation on his citizenship has continued apace. Some claim that Obama posted a fake birth certificate to his Web page. That charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi, author of a book attacking Obama, repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News.
Corsi: Well, what would be really helpful is if Senator Obama would release primary documents like his birth certificate. The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website. How is anybody supposed to really piece together his life?
Doocy: What do you mean they have a "false birth certificate" on their Web site?
Corsi: The original birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.
Doocy: Well, couldn't it just be a State of Hawaii-produced duplicate?
Corsi: No, it's a -- there's been good analysis of it on the Internet, and it's been shown to have watermarks from Photoshop. It's a fake document that's on the Web site right now, and the original birth certificate the campaign refuses to produce.
Corsi isn't the only skeptic claiming that the document is a forgery. Among the most frequent objections we saw on forums, blogs and e-mails are:
•The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.
•It isn't signed.
•No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.
•In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.
•The certificate number is blacked out.
•The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.
•The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."
Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.
The Obama birth certificate, held by FactCheck writer Joe Miller
Alvin T. Onaka's signature stamp
The raised seal
Blowup of text
You can click on the photos to get full-size versions, which haven't been edited in any way, except that some have been rotated 90 degrees for viewing purposes.
The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: "your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records." The names, date and place of birth, and filing date are all evident on the scanned version, and you can see the seal above.
The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.
The scan released by the campaign shows halos around the black text, making it look (to some) as though the text might have been pasted on top of an image of security paper. But the document itself has no such halos, nor do the close-up photos we took of it. We conclude that the halo seen in the image produced by the campaign is a digital artifact from the scanning process.
We asked the Obama campaign about the date stamp and the blacked-out certificate number. The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that's when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and "all the records we could get our hands on" according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn't release its copy until 2008, after speculation began to appear on the Internet questioning Obama's citizenship. The campaign then rushed to release the document, and the rush is responsible for the blacked-out certificate number. Says Shauna: "[We] couldn't get someone on the phone in Hawaii to tell us whether the number represented some secret information, and we erred on the side of blacking it out. Since then we've found out it's pretty irrelevant for the outside world." The document we looked at did have a certificate number; it is 151 1961 - 010641.
Blowup of certificate number
Some of the conspiracy theories that have circulated about Obama are quite imaginative. One conservative blogger suggested that the campaign might have obtained a valid Hawaii birth certificate, soaked it in solvent, then reprinted it with Obama's information. Of course, this anonymous blogger didn't have access to the actual document and presents this as just one possible "scenario" without any evidence that such a thing actually happened or is even feasible.
We also note that so far none of those questioning the authenticity of the document have produced a shred of evidence that the information on it is incorrect. Instead, some speculate that somehow, maybe, he was born in another country and doesn't meet the Constitution's requirement that the president be a "natural-born citizen."
We think our colleagues at PolitiFact.com, who also dug into some of these loopy theories put it pretty well: "It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world’s biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything’s possible. But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what’s reasonable has to take over."
In fact, the conspiracy would need to be even deeper than our colleagues realized. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961:
Obama's birth announcement
The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.
Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.
Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It's certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.
When we asked about the security borders, which look different from some other examples of Hawaii certifications of live birth, Kurt said "The borders are generated each time a certified copy is printed. A citation located on the bottom left hand corner of the certificate indicates which date the form was revised." He also confirmed that the information in the short form birth certificate is sufficient to prove citizenship for "all reasonable purposes."
–by Jess Henig, with Joe Miller
Sources
United States Department of State. "Application for a U.S. Passport." Accessed 20 Aug. 2008.
State of Hawaii Department of Health. "Request for Certified Copy of Birth Record." Accessed 20 Aug. 2008.
The Associated Press. "State declares Obama birth certificate genuine" 31 Oct 2008.
Nakaso, Dan. "Obama's certificate of birth OK, state says; Health director issues voucher in response to 'ridiculous' barrage" Honolulu Advertiser 1 Nov 2008.
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Therefore, it would have been impossible to claim that Maj. Cook's argument was specious, that the Geneva Convention would not protect him if he were captured.