Barack Obama's citizenship questioned

cayla99 · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject:

I fear no action will be taken. Everything is closed Monday and the inauguration is tuesday. Once this takes place, no amount of evidence will make any difference. Our government has failed us in one of its most primary duties.
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HighlanderJuan · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:46 am Post subject:

Eligibility battle rages on 3 fronts
Court, Congress and college challenged on constitutionality

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=86325

By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

Officials at Occidental College in Los Angeles, Calif., have been served with a demand to produce records concerning Barack Obama's attendance there during the 1980s because they could document whether he was attending as a foreign national – in one of three fronts now established by those contesting the president-elect's constitutional eligibility for the Oval Office.

Also in that same article is something I mentioned earlier today on another forum:

The lawsuit on which USJF is working was filed on behalf of presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others, and describes the potential damage an ineligible president could create.

“Should Senator Obama be discovered, after he takes office, to be ineligible for the Office of President of the United States of America and, thereby, his election declared void,” argues a case brought on behalf of Ambassador Alan Keyes, also a presidential candidate. “Americans will suffer irreparable harm in that (a) usurper will be sitting as the President of the United States, and none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal.”

cayla99 · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:36 am Post subject:

I no longer care about the outcome of these challenges, only that they are heard and proof is given. IF Obama is indeed a natural born citizen, so be it. If not, he has no right to the white house. IF he is not a citizen at all, we will need to revisit EVERYTHING HE EVER VOTED ON, BOTH IN THE SENATE AND IN THE ILLINOIS GOVERNMENT to see if his vote changed the outcome. On items that it did, the sticky mess of failure to vent will be undoing the harm.

Unfortunately, if he is not a citizen at all, and he is found to be an illegal immigrant, deportation is NOT an option. We will have to support him in federal prison for the rest of his life, he already has had too many top secret briefings.
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Dixie · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:09 am Post subject:

But...but... what about all the parties and the hyped up media coverage for the inauguration? What a disapointment it will be to all the Hollywood party goers if the inauguration doesn't get ramed through.

The only other recourse is impeachment and I don't believe this congress of Liberals will do it. Besides that, who doesn't like a puppet that you can tell to dance or else? Obama is entering office with strings attatched.

Dixie
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HighlanderJuan · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:12 am Post subject:

Regarding impeachment, it may not be necessary. Only people in office can be impeached. If he's an imposer and a usurper, he never gets the title passed along to him, so he's really not in office.

cayla99 · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:25 am Post subject:

I think if the truth came out, too many powerful heads would roll, so even those not initially involved are all closing ranks to see that the truth is never known. Cheney, a Republican "forgetting?" to call for objections, the chief justice and his private chat ect No the truth will not be known until we are all dead and gone
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PatriotofPast · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:36 am Post subject:

That is why Col. Hollisters lawsuit MUST be heard and ADDRESSED!
The President is the Commander in Chief of ALL our Military, for Gods Sake, HE HOLDS THE MISSLE CODES!
Personally, I can not remember a United States President with so many ALIAS NAMES!!!
Barry Dunham ? Barry Soetoro ? Barry Obama ? Barack Obama ?

(MOD EDIT), LET THEIR BE JUSTICE!
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HighlanderJuan · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:21 pm Post subject:

HighlanderJuan · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:24 pm Post subject:

[quote="PatriotofPast"]That is why Col. Hollisters lawsuit MUST be heard and ADDRESSED!
The President is the Commander in Chief of ALL our Military, for Gods Sake, HE HOLDS THE MISSLE CODES!
Personally, I can not remember a United States President with so many ALIAS NAMES!!!
Barry Dunham ? Barry Soetoro ? Barry Obama ? Barack Obama ?

{Mod Edit}

, there are other alternatives. You might look at The Committees of Safety (http://www.committeesofsafety.org/) a solution promoted by Edwin Vieira and very workable. Just takes people to make it happen.

FreedomFirst · ALIPAC Master Joined: Nov 18, 2008 Posts: 424

It's kind of interesting how the Democratic majority and Obama did a flip-flop on the Roland Burris controversy. First they weren't going to seat him because he was "tainted" by the process that named him (translation: Blago is a crooked shake-down artist) and then they reverse course and decide they will seat him. According to Rahm Emanual on today's Meet the Press, it was all about the Illinois Secretary of State reversing course and signing the paperwork. (Insert pause, to smile up sleeve, as we pretend "as if" the Illinois SOS wasn't taking instructions from higher up.)

But consider this ... coming from Roland Burris whose only NECESSARY qualification for U.S. Senate is that he be a CITIZEN of requisite age and period of residency ...

http://images.stltoday.com/stltoday/resources/burrisaffidavit.pdf

cayla99 · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject:

Freedomfirst,

I will bet my kids college funds that this is just the tip of the iceberg.
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing." -Edmund Burke (1729-1797)

HighlanderJuan · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:24 pm Post subject:

FreedomFirst,

Another good find. It's getting easier to connect the dots, isn't it.

TexasBorn · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:35 pm Post subject:

Has anyone noticed that the date for review the case of Obamas's eligibility keeps getting pushed out? Now it's 23 Jan? I am convinced now that we are only seeing "the tip of the iceberg". Elected government officials, one after another, covering up for each other on a grand scale. Can we afford the luxury of sitting idly by and watching this charade, purporting to be our government of "we the people", unfold in front of us like a bad dream?
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HighlanderJuan · Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:35 pm Post subject:

TexasBorn · Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:14 pm Post subject:

Cayla, I have similar fears. Our government hasn't just failed us in one of it's most primary duties...they will have ignored and violated the law of the land, our constitution! Additionally, ask yourself, what precedent will this episode set if Obama is allowed to take the oath of office???? Will U.S. attorney's be allowed to run rough shod over our constitutional protections since our own president was allowed to?? In my opinion we are approaching some very dangerous waters for this country!

cayla99 · Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject:

I just heard on local radio about the lightfoot case before the courts on friday. One of the more than 50 co-plaintiffs is a BLOOD RELATIVE of Obama's and allegedly has pictures of the birth and newborn that another relative had given this person decades ago. They would not go into any more detail, but said that the pictures are in a sealed part of the file for the request of writ and that the court will have no doubts by Friday as to whether or not these are nonsense cases. What they decide to do about the writ we won't know until Friday or monday.
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing." -Edmund Burke (1729-1797)

FreedomFirst · ALIPAC Master Joined: Nov 18, 2008 Posts: 424

This is an odd article, written over in Africa from the looks of it. Pay attention to the last sentences.

http://www.bdafrica.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12372&Itemid=5848

Importance of Obama’s swearing-in
Written by Macharia Munene

January 20, 2008: Today, January 20th 2009, Barrack Obama takes the oath of office as the 44th president of the United States and 39 former presidents will be watching from wherever it is that people go when they die.

Many will wonder what happened, some may think it is a logical progression while others might question that logic. The inauguration is the final defeat of Tuskegee thinking. Given the nature of the deliberations in the summer of 1787 at Philadelphia, they might wish they had included a “grandfather clause.”

In closed meetings, 55 elite white men had haggled about the structure of government that would be strong enough to protect their general interests while leaving the locals to worry about routine and peculiar issues.

Among the peculiarities was slavery and the issue was how to reconcile slavery with liberty under one roof. For the purposes of taxes and possible representation in a state, a slave was three-fifths of a man.

Several of those brilliant men were slave owners. To avoid a populist bamboozling poor voters into electing him, they created an Electoral College of supposedly wise men who knew how to look after the interests of their states. These would therefore decide the right person even if it is against the wishes of the people.

Similarly, foreigners were kept out by requiring that a candidate be natural born American. Most likely the president would always be a white male, preferably of Protestant religious inclination.

They generally had low opinion of black people who claimed to be free and so removing “free” blacks from the United States became a preoccupation. They acquired territory in West Africa, called it Liberia, and urged blacks to go and be “free” in Africa.

Because white people were fighting in the civil war, Abe Lincoln argued, blacks should move and settle outside the United States. After his Gettysburg Address in 1863 and a bullet in 1865, Lincoln was transformed into a “saint”.

Inducing blacks to leave the United States partially explains American involvement in the Berlin Conference of 1884-85 where white powers agreed on rules of grabbing territories in Africa.

Although exporting blacks failed, they could be taught to be subservient and not aspire to be policy makers. Subsequently, Booker T. Washington in Tuskegee, Alabama, got a lot of money from “philanthropists” to teach blacks technical work, but not to engage in serious thinking.

His political clout among blacks increased when President Theodore Roosevelt invited him for tea at the White House. A believer in white supremacy, Roosevelt encouraged Britons to make East Africa “white man’s country” and to handle natives with firmness.

He wanted Tuskegee type of education for Africans whom, he believed, “can never ... know enough” to be clerks let alone govern.

Roosevelt could never imagine a descendant of one of those “Africans”, with his slave descended wife, in the White House, not for ceremonial tea, but as the official residents. There is plenty of blame to go around for what went wrong.

The culprits include the NAACP for challenging official racism, civil rights activists, anti-colonial politicians in Kenya who encouraged Africans to go for American university education, and the increased access to quality education that black youth everywhere started getting. Obama the father and Obama the son were beneficiaries of the rejection of Tuskegee thinking.

There are many unhappy people who regret this development and attempted to stop the inauguration. It indicates that had some constitution drafters projected 2009, they might have inserted a “grandfather clause” like those of the post civil war south.

This would have required that presidential candidates, their parents, and all grandparents be natural born. That way, an African student would not have sired a potential president before returning to Africa.

Munene is a professor of history and international relations at USIU.

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Hard to know where to begin with attacking this guy's P.O.V. and revisionist history. So let's start with the American Colonization Society and the variety of motives it had in spending money to support freeing slaves and providing transport to the newly founded Liberia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Colonization_Society#Motives_of_the_ACS

Maybe "Professor" Munene could devote some of his "research attention" to the topic of how more dominant African tribes were often the folks who rounded up weaker African tribes to sell them into slavery at the ports frequented by the European slave traffickers. Or how Christianity, the religion of the "white people" he so obviously dislikes, tended to be the "religious force" which brought slavery into disfavor. Interesting finding from this next source:

What is also seldom remembered is that many black Americans in the 19th Century owned slaves. For example, according to the United States census of 1830, in just the one town of Charleston, South Carolina, 407 black Americans owned slaves themselves.

http://www.christianaction.org.za/articles_ca/2004-4-TheScourgeofSlavery.htm

cayla99 · Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:19 am Post subject:

I find it funny how Kenya claims him as one of their own. The Irish, including my hubby, consider my baby boy to be a "yank". They do not consider him to be Irish. The Irish also consider BOTH Reagan and Kennedy to be "yanks" although they are proud of them coming from the Irish line. When these two presidents are referred to in Ireland, they are called "Irish-American" with the emphasis on American, not once will you hear them say that we have an Irish president. Since both are former holding of England and have a strong English influence, When Kenya calls someone a Kenyan, I tend to believe they mean just that, this man was born in Kenya. My son holds duel citizenship, and I do not feel that he should ever be president because of it.
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HighlanderJuan · Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:06 am Post subject:

GO HERE……………………………… Non Political, I PROMISE.

http://www.bornagainamerican.org/

Just do it.. you’ll see why…………………….

TexasBorn · Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:40 pm Post subject:

Great link Highlander...great song!!

azwreath · ALIPAC Moderator Joined: Jun 14, 2007 Posts: 6353

cayla99 wrote:

I just heard on local radio about the lightfoot case before the courts on friday. One of the more than 50 co-plaintiffs is a BLOOD RELATIVE of Obama's and allegedly has pictures of the birth and newborn that another relative had given this person decades ago. They would not go into any more detail, but said that the pictures are in a sealed part of the file for the request of writ and that the court will have no doubts by Friday as to whether or not these are nonsense cases. What they decide to do about the writ we won't know until Friday or monday.

I wonder if this is the evidence I referenced in this earlier post of mine Cayla Confused

.As for the sealed lawsuit......I wonder if this has anything to do with the comment I read on Phil's site awhile back from his assistant. She could not mention specifics, of course, but there was something mentioned about some apparent doozie of evidence which had been obtained by someone, the implication being that when it finally comes to light, it's going to impact this thing big time.

And, if there is an obama blood relative out there, I wonder if THEY have requested his BC? Doesn't Hawaiin law say that these can be requested by a blood relative? Also isn't there some political wife or another who is alleged to be a blood relative to him?

Maybe I'm being pig-headed about this but as I stated in another topic.....I just cannot shake the feeling that....despite how everything might appear at the moment.......there is much more going on here than meets the eye and something IS going to happen. Confused

TexasBorn · Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject:

AZ, my wife keeps telling me to just move on and stop talking about this issue. She says that Obama has been vetted already and that he would never have been allowed this far if he indeed does have a problem with his birth status. I told her that he has NOT been vetted and THAT is the problem! In the past, the media has largely taken the mantle of vetting candidates but in this case they have given him a complete pass. Sometimes I feel that I have fallen in with conspiracy theorists but I have to say, in this case, something is Rotten in Denmark!!!

cayla99 · Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject:

Today I saw a very dear friend of mine put on life support. I don't think, barring a miracle she will survive. There have been many signs of her illness for a long time now, but they have gone on basically being ignored. I was told just yesterday that she is not nearly as bad off as I thought, but I could not and still can not shake the feeling that the grim reaper is standing over her bed. Many people have been charged with taking care of her and seeing that she came to no harm, but they ignored her cries for help. At a little past noon today, she collapsed. Her name is the US Constitution. As time goes on, remember how wonderful she was. I will miss her dearly.
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HighlanderJuan · Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject:

Those are powerful words, MinuteMan.

Thank you for saying them.