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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:01 pm    Post subject: Illegal Immigration NOT a Crime? Reply with quote

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On Sunday, April 19, 2009, Secretary Napolitano went on CNN’s “State of the Union” and proclaimed that crossing the border illegally is not a crime. This statement left a lot of folks scratching their heads given that U.S. law—the law Napolitano is sworn to uphold—says quite the opposite. Section 8, Title 1325 of the U.S. code clearly states that those who enter the U.S. illegally are committing a crime.

This ‘interpretation’ of the law by Secretary Napolitano seems to be the latest in an effort by the Obama Administration to scale back interior immigration enforcement efforts in the United States. As recently as March 28th, Napolitano made the decision to delay a series of immigration raids and other workplace actions aimed at finding illegal workers. At the same time, both President Obama and Secretary Napolitano have announced new initiatives intending to send the message that they take the issues at the southern border seriously. But the Administration cannot fight cartels while ignoring illegal immigration—people smuggling is part of the problem, not a separate issue. Legalization will only make matters worse. Granting the people here illegally asylum will only encourage more illegal border crossing. Likewise, failing to enforce workplace and immigration laws will only encourage more to ignore the law.

The fight has to go beyond the border. Just adding inspections on people heading south is not going to work. Homeland Security will inconvenience everyone but the smugglers who don’t care if some of their loads get caught and will seek alternative routes. On the U.S. side, there has to be a robust integrated response of federal, state, and local law enforcement at the regional level (meshing with is going on in California, Arizona, Texas, and New Mexico) that targets the cartel and transnational gang networks. At the local level, the U.S. needs more community policing that targets criminal elements in the border community. That means more support and assistance for border county sheriff departments.

Secretary Napolitano’s job is to follow and enforce the law—not to use her authority to undermine it.


http://blog.heritage.org/2009/04/20/napolitano-illegal-immigration-not-a-crime/
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with that 100 percent! Instead of blathering about comprehensive immigration reform, there should be resources put toward the comprehensive enforcement of laws on the books.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On Sunday, April 19, 2009, Secretary Napolitano went on CNN’s “State of the Union” and proclaimed that crossing the border illegally is not a crime. This statement left a lot of folks scratching their heads given that U.S. law—the law Napolitano is sworn to uphold—says quite the opposite. Section 8, Title 1325 of the U.S. code clearly states that those who enter the U.S. illegally are committing a crime.

This ‘interpretation’ of the law by Secretary Napolitano seems to be the latest in an effort by the Obama Administration to scale back interior immigration enforcement efforts in the United States.


The contempt that this quisling administration shows for increasingly desperate Americans is a source on continual astonishment. During the presidential campaign, I predicted that Obama would go for amnesty if elected. *Never* did I expect that the amnesty push would be buttressed with overt contempt for our own people and for the laws of this magnificent country.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is a crime is so many politicians want to sell out this country and not uphold THIS nations Constitution
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WHAT IS A CRIME IS THE WAY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WANT TO CALL AMERICAN CITIZENS AND THEIR MILITARY PERSONNEL "TERRORISTS" OR "MILITANTS".

WHILE REWARDING THE CRIMINALS(ILLEGAL ALIENS) ALL RIGHTS AND BENEFITS AND SPECIAL PRIVILEGES

THAT IS CRIMINAL!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Title 8 Section 1325 is confusing Reply with quote

from the statute:

"Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to
enter) the United States at a time or place other than as
designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil
penalty of -
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or
attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of
an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under
this subsection."

The continued reference of the word civil is the confusing wording. Tourists who overstay a 90 day visa and start working here are in the country illegally but the statute refers to those who sneek in, appartently.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gee Toto, I don't think we are in Kansas anymore.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vistalad wrote:

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During the presidential campaign, I predicted that Obama would go for amnesty if elected.


Such a prediction wasn't necessary because Obama made it clear that he would push for amnesty during his administration. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MW, I didn't pay much attention to Obama at first. Mostly that's because I presumed that any Democrat could beat any Republican and when Hillary Clinton announced her candidacy I presumed that she'd be the nominee.

I did see an Obama TV ad which include something to the effect that the same hands that pick our crops could also do a number of other things. Having lived thru Bill Clinton, I was certain that anyone over 30 could see that Obama's campaign was just a second round of Clintonesque hucksterism. Imagine my surprise;-)

Even today part of me has difficulty believing that an American administration does not immediately announce that it's Americans first in the time of crisis.
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