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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It appears that ALIPAC is taking the roll of breaking this story to the nation.

It will likely be on hundreds of websites by tomorrow and may receive news coverage after our efforts.

"The Attack on the Dobbs Family Was An Attack On All Americans That Value Our 1st Amendment Rights!" -- William Gheen of ALIPAC.us
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ALIPAC wrote:
It appears that ALIPAC is taking the roll of breaking this story to the nation.

It will likely be on hundreds of websites by tomorrow and may receive news coverage after our efforts.

"The Attack on the Dobbs Family Was An Attack On All Americans That Value Our 1st Amendment Rights!" -- William Gheen of ALIPAC.us


If the cable networks do report it, watch them make it into an isolated incident, and try to steer the blame away from the open borders crowd.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tinybobidaho wrote:
JohnDoe2 wrote:
Shots Fired at Lou Dobbs' House/Car -
Illegal Immigration - City ...10 posts - 6 authors - Last post: 8 minutes ago
Are pro-illegals so desperate that they must intimidate or kill opponents? Do they actually believe if they harm or kill Dobbs it will end the debate?
www.city-data.com/.../802127-shots-fired-lou-dobbs-house-car.html - 8 minutes ago - Similar

Shots fired at Lou Dobbs and wife in front of home
« Randy's RightOct 29, 2009 ... Shots fired at Lou Dobbs and wife in front of home. October 29, 2009 by randyedye. We have just learned that someone has fired a gun at the ...
www.randysright.wordpress.com/.../shots-fired-at-lou-dobbs-and-wife-in-front-of-home/ - 8 minutes ago - Similar


The first link didn't work for me. The other one is okay.


This is the first one. we couldnt open it because after the .com/ comes ... not words

http://www.city-data.com/forum/illegal-immigration/802127-shots-fired-lou-dobbs-house-car.html
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:23 am    Post subject: Good link Reply with quote

Here is a good link:

http://randysright.wordpress.com/2009/10/29/shots-fired-at-lou-dobbs-and-wife-in-front-of-home/

Violence is what comes from desperation. When the political agenda breaks down and they are loosing politically people resort to violence to get their point across! I hope the liberal left media see that, the "utopia in the clouds" will never be achieved, not that I am against it, I just live in reality.

We see it in the middle east, American streets, South America. So now, since they know they are going to loose, they are going to resort to violence. Like the war on drugs, since it couldn't be totally removed from the streets of California, they make it legal! Look at the cesspool San Francisco has turned into, actually all of California from liberals, drugs and illegal immigration.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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obama signed a hate-crimes law today, he hailed the hate crimes measure in the bill as a step toward change to "help protect our citizens from violence based on what they look like, who they love, how they pray." I wonder whether that also covers the shooting at the home of Lou Dobbs, or does that have nothing to do with hate, since the victim is standing up for the people of the United States and sharing information with the public that the elites want censored?
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Good question CountMeIn - If they catch the violent hater who fired the shot, will it be cosidered a hate crime? Of course not, but still a good rhetorical question. Wish someone would publicly ask the White House that question. Unfortunately we don't have too many real journalists in America anymore.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tinybobidaho wrote:
JohnDoe2 wrote:
Shots Fired at Lou Dobbs' House/Car -
Illegal Immigration - City ...10 posts - 6 authors - Last post: 8 minutes ago
Are pro-illegals so desperate that they must intimidate or kill opponents? Do they actually believe if they harm or kill Dobbs it will end the debate?
www.city-data.com/.../802127-shots-fired-lou-dobbs-house-car.html - 8 minutes ago - Similar

Shots fired at Lou Dobbs and wife in front of home
« Randy's RightOct 29, 2009 ... Shots fired at Lou Dobbs and wife in front of home. October 29, 2009 by randyedye. We have just learned that someone has fired a gun at the ...
www.randysright.wordpress.com/.../shots-fired-at-lou-dobbs-and-wife-in-front-of-home/ - 8 minutes ago - Similar


The first link has been replaced with

http://www.city-data.com/forum/illegal-immigration/802127-shots-fired-lou-dobbs-house-car.html

The first link didn't work for me. The other one is okay.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CountMeIn wrote:
obama signed a hate-crimes law today, he hailed the hate crimes measure in the bill as a step toward change to "help protect our citizens from violence based on what they look like, who they love, how they pray." I wonder whether that also covers the shooting at the home of Lou Dobbs, or does that have nothing to do with hate, since the victim is standing up for the people of the United States and sharing information with the public that the elites want censored?
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Welcome CountMeIn.

Excellent point!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long before the first real shots are fired in Dobbs ...

Apr 5, 2008

How long before some follower of Lou Dobbs shoots someone she or he feels is waging "war" on . . .[/b]

(MOD EDIT: LINK CHANGED TO TINY URL TO REMOVE WEB BENEFITS OF DIRECT LINK POSTED HERE. PLEASE DO NOT POST DIRECT LINKS TO OPPOSITION WEBSITES)

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:42 am    Post subject: Re: Good link Reply with quote

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Violence is what comes from desperation. When the political agenda breaks down and they are loosing politically people resort to violence to get their point across! I hope the liberal left media see that, the "utopia in the clouds" will never be achieved, not that I am against it, I just live in reality.

We see it in the middle east, American streets, South America. So now, since they know they are going to loose, they are going to resort to violence.

Great point cclarkkent! -- Its over now. Just put down your weapons, and back away slowly. Keep going til you reach your home countries. Best wishes to you in your homelands.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ladies and Gentlemen.

Let us also remember this............

LOU'S WIFE IS HISPANIC
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heads Up!

I just removed one post by JohnDoe2 that pointed at an enemy website. I also removed James's follow up post about it.

Posting links to the opposition websites in a discussion like this is a bad strategy for several reasons.

1. We can never win a debate on their sites and they won't listen to us and they have so little traffic it is a battle that only elevates them on the web. Big strategic mistake to fight the trolls on their own sites.

2. Diverting attention to them is a distraction and will only encourage them. Their only real power is to serve as a distraction to our activist, especially during critical times like now when this national story is forming.

Please focus your efforts on getting this story up and out across America and do not divert links, attention, time, or posts to dead end fights with pro illegal alien trolls.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:52 am    Post subject: Re: Good link Reply with quote

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cclarkkent wrote:
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Violence is what comes from desperation. When the political agenda breaks down and they are loosing politically people resort to violence to get their point across! I hope the liberal left media see that, the "utopia in the clouds" will never be achieved, not that I am against it, I just live in reality.

We see it in the middle east, American streets, South America. So now, since they know they are going to loose, they are going to resort to violence.

Great point cclarkkent! -- Its over now. Just put down your weapons, and back away slowly. Keep going til you reach your home countries. Best wishes to you in your homelands.


Thanks builditnow

I think there is a long battle ahead. This is just a small start in the show of frustration.

Then can cry me a river, so I can build you a bridge back to their homeland. Oh wait, the Rio Grande already has a bridge.

If they want to live in America, they go back and change things and have their own "little America", why come here and screw it up.

BTW, I return fire!

Matt


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ladies and Gentlemen.

Let us also remember this............

LOU'S WIFE IS HISPANIC


Yes, thank you for reminding people james. Lou is for legal immigration.

Just forwarded this story to http://www.drudgereport.com/ also. Perhaps others may want to also.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="JohnDoe2"]How long before the first real shots are fired in Dobbs ...

Apr 5, 2008

How long before some follower of Lou Dobbs shoots someone she or he feels is waging "war" on . . .[/b]

Wow, so the Shall Remain Nameless (per W's points) pro-amnesty site actually DID predict that someone would fire a shot in violence related to Lou Dobbs and illegal immigration -- only of course they mistakenly thought it would be a Lou Dobbs fan firing the shot! Some "right wing extremist" of course. I didn't even know about this when I wrote my earlier post:
"Well, maybe this is it: The First Shots Fired. The liberal left pro-amnesty crowd just predicted the "hate acts" and violence would come from the "right wing extremists". Guess they're wrong again."

They are SOOOO predictable. And this kind of act from them is SOOOO predictable.

Thanks for posting JohnDoe.

Edited: I removed name of the pro-amnesty group in my post, per W's instructions. I think someone else must have edited out link, which is fine. I was in process, think someone beat me to it. That prediction of this pro-amnesty site is really ironic, under the circumstances. Bet they remove it from their site in the next week. I think it might be good to save a copy. I think it would be interesting if Beck or someone showed it, if or when reporting on this.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Heads Up!

I just removed one post by JohnDoe2 that pointed at an enemy website. I also removed James's follow up post about it.

Posting links to the opposition websites in a discussion like this is a bad strategy for several reasons.

1. We can never win a debate on their sites and they wont listen to us and they have so little traffic it is a battle that only elevates them on the web. Big strategic mistake to fight the trolls on their own sites.

2. Diverting attention to them is a distraction and will only encourage them. Their only real power is to serve as a distraction to our activist, especially during critical times like now when this national story is forming.

Please focus your efforts on getting this story up and out across America and do not divert links, attention, time, or posts to dead end fights with pro illegal alien trolls.

W


did you by chance read the cheap shots on that website against you before you deleted the posts?

hey W--- number 1, should that read "we can never WIN"
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Heads Up!

I just removed one post by JohnDoe2 that pointed at an enemy website. I also removed James's follow up post about it.

Posting links to the opposition websites in a discussion like this is a bad strategy for several reasons.

1. We can never win a debate on their sites and they wont listen to us and they have so little traffic it is a battle that only elevates them on the web. Big strategic mistake to fight the trolls on their own sites.

2. Diverting attention to them is a distraction and will only encourage them. Their only real power is to serve as a distraction to our activist, especially during critical times like now when this national story is forming.

Please focus your efforts on getting this story up and out across America and do not divert links, attention, time, or posts to dead end fights with pro illegal alien trolls.

W


did you by chance read the cheap shots on that website against you before you deleted the posts?


I could care less about the cheap shots hurled at me by some cheap blogger with a keyboard on his low end website nobody ever visits.

Right now I'm trying to manage our national response on this thing since ALIPAC is breaking this story to the nation. I don't even dignify those trolls by reading their filth. It only encourages them and you reading it and posting a response will bring them great happiness and feeling of reward.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok folks, even though it is late this thing is going viral across the web tonight.

Can several of you please assist by submitting notes and encouragements for Drudge to publish this over at www.DrudgeReport.com ???

Tell Drudge and staff this is a big breaking story they should scoop the nation on.

Send them notes with this link please

Shot Fired Into Home of Lou Dobbs of CNN!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjbgk1TKLWY

The News Tip suggestion box is right there on the homepage of drudgereport.com

If enough of you send it in, they may link in and if Drudge links in the cat is out of the bag before AP can try to rape this story.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We need World Net Daily to kick in on this as well. We have sent email releases to them but sometimes it helps if a few volunteer activists go to their site and send the tip in.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been with Citi-Data http://www.city-data.com/forum/illegal-immigration/802127-shots-fired-lou-dobbs-house-car.html since "06".

This Illegal Immigration forum has trolls and sometime could use help from some of us ALIPACer's..
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ALIPAC wrote:
Ok folks, even though it is late this thing is going viral across the web tonight.

Can several of you please assist by submitting notes and encouragements for Drudge to publish this over at www.DrudgeReport.com ???

Tell Drudge and staff this is a big breaking story they should scoop the nation on.

Send them notes with this link please

Shot Fired Into Home of Lou Dobbs of CNN!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjbgk1TKLWY

The News Tip suggestion box is right there on the homepage of drudgereport.com

If enough of you send it in, they may link in and if Drudge links in the cat is out of the bag before AP can try to rape this story.

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Drudge don't even have this listed on their front page.
I submitted it afew times.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont think drudge updates 24/7 though, maybe it will be up later this morning
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am so shocked by this terrible HATE CRIME on Lou Dobbs and his family. My thoughts and prayers go out to them. WE ARE BEHIND YOU LOU!!!! These criminals will NOT win :twisted Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:25 am    Post subject: Deport Illegal Aliens Reply with quote

Lou Dobbs: Keep doing what you are doing. Don't listen to La Raza and others. You and I know that illegal aliens must be deported. I support you and my family and friends as well. We the American people want illegal aliens to leave this country. And NO TO AMNESTY.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK LOU DOBBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

forwarding to everyone that I know
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:52 am    Post subject: Shot Fired At Lou Dobbs Home Reply with quote

God was surely watching over the Dobbs family.

We have a chance to make some real change in the 2010 elections this came across my desk this morning:
We’re asked to please consider this proposal:

The Congress of the United States is corrupted by power, greed and lobbyists. That means both Houses and it means both major parties.

Of course there are a few members of each House that are trustworthy, but as a group they are about the most corrupt bunch to ever disgrace our Nation.

In November of 2010 the entire House of Representatives will stand for re-election - all 435 of them. One third of the Senate, a total of 33 of them, will also stand for re-election. Vote every incumbent out.

That means every one of them. No matter their Party affiliation. Let's start all over in the House of Representatives with 435 people who have absolutely no experience in running that body, with no political favors owed to anyone but their own constituents. Let's make them understand that they work for us. They are answerable to us and they simply have to run that body honorably with some common sense.

Two years later, in 2012, vote the next third of the incumbents in the Senate out.

Do the same thing to Senators running in 2014, and then there will be all new people in that body as well.

The People have got to take their Country back and it MUST be done peacefully.
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