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Waukegan: Caught in gangbanger deport. sweep {total sob}

 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:07 am    Post subject: Waukegan: Caught in gangbanger deport. sweep {total sob} Reply with quote

Ryan Pagelow, reporter, continues to put the sob spin with his article about this issue. This article appears this morning with pictures of a tearful wife and children. Oh I hope this doesn't go sour for Waukegan...

Rationale: I robbed a bank 7 years ago and you still want to deport me?? Ahhh yes. I don't think our chief of policed would submit a name otherwise. Here is his email to send notes of support if you like.

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Caught in gangbanger deportation sweep
Targets of sweep pose a threat to public: ICE

August 30, 2007
By RYAN PAGELOW and Nicholas P. Alajakis rpagelow@scn1.co and nalajakis@scn1.com

Immigration raids this week in Lake County show it can take years for legal permanent residents convicted of deportable offenses to actually enter deportation proceedings. In come cases, it's long enough for them to turn their lives around.

Relatives of some of the legal permanent residents swept up in the immigration crackdown focusing on gang members this week said their relatives are no longer involved in gangs, although a spokeswoman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said only individuals who pose a threat to public safety are being arrested in "Operation Gangs Away."

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A tearful Angelina Rojel comforts her children, Matthew, 9, and Cristian, 6, as older brother Israel Jr. talks to his father, Israel Rojel, by phone. Rojel is at a correction facility after being picked up by ICE on Sunday.
(Marina Samovsky/News-Sun)

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Octavio Bahena's wife, Michelle, takes a moment to listen to their daughter, Samantha, 3, as Octavio's mother, Telma Jimenez, talks about the possibility of Octavio being deported.
(Michael Schmidt/News-Sun)

Prayer vigil

Immigrant rights organizations, including Casa Mexiquense of Waukegan, are planning to hold a 24-hour prayer vigil for an end to the raids outside the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service's Application Support Center, 25 S. Green Bay Road, starting today at 7 p.m.

"My husband hasn't been in trouble for six or seven years," Michelle Bahena of Waukegan said Wednesday. Her husband, Octavio, was picked up Sunday afternoon by immigration officials and Waukegan police. He is being held in the Dodge County Detention Facility in Wisconsin.

He had gun and drug charges in the '90s and served prison time, but now works as a union carpenter, she said. He has also been a foster parent to three nieces and nephews since June of last year, she said.

"If he was in trouble, would (the Department of Children and Family Services) let him have foster kids?" Bahena said. "He's changed his life around."

She said her husband was pulled over last week by police for his license plate registration, and there was no mention of a deportation hold on him or a warrant for his arrest.

Her husband is the principal breadwinner for the family, which includes six children. She is a part-time waitress and a U.S. citizen along with the children.

Octavio, 34, immigrated to the United States from Guerrero, Mexico, when he was 4 years old, said Octavio's mother, Telma Jimenez of Waukegan.

Waukegan Police Chief William Biang said Wednesday that anyone targeted has been identified as a threat by police and immigration officials.

Biang said he couldn't go into detail as to how each target was chosen, but said that Waukegan police had street intelligence -- including information from the department's gang unit -- that aided in identifications.

Biang maintained that any additional information needs to be obtained from ICE officials.

"We're assisting immigration on this. All we're doing is providing manpower to people," Biang said.

ICE spokesperson Gail Montenegro continued the organization's tight-lipped position on the crackdown. She said Wednesday she could not release any more details on who is being targeted. ICE is expecting to provide more information to the press this morning, she said.

On Wednesday, Biang said he had heard more than 50 people around Chicago have been detained in the raids. About a dozen of them were from Waukegan, and three were from Round Lake Beach. No other local department has given information about gang crackdowns to The News-Sun.

Angelina Rojel's husband, Israel, was picked up by about 15 police and immigration officials Sunday night at their Waukegan home, and is being held in Dodge County Detention Facility in Wisconsin.

Israel had no felonies and even had a Firearm Owner Identification card, which is not available to people convicted of a felony, Angelina said.

"He's not a gang member or a threat to society," Angelina said. "All his cases were closed. They were misdemeanors."

Israel had a gun possession charge when he was 17 that was lowered to a misdemeanor. He also had a $300 theft charge from 2005, relatives said.

Israel is a press operator for a Gurnee factory and a youth soccer coach. He and Angelina have six children, all U.S. citizens, along with Angelina.

Israel was born in Tonatico, Mexico, and immigrated to the United States when he was 2 years old.

Angelina is working with a lawyer to try to get a bond hearing for her husband by Friday.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mexico wouldn't let him get away with this why should we? We shouldn't.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does an illegal alien obtain a weapons permit? Shocked

Unless, of course, he used false documents........... Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

azwreath wrote:
How does an illegal alien obtain a weapons permit? Shocked

Unless, of course, he used false documents........... Confused


That is news to me!!! In New York State you need to be interviewed, have references, and background checks to get a Pistol/Carry permit! Its such a pain in the ass! Other states might not be so ruff but I don't know?

But prison time is needed here! I am sick of people saying "he wasn't a bad guy!" BLAH BLAH BLAH! People have secrets and if there criminals why would they speak up about? Damn some people are dumb!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How could he get a union job without fake docsuments?His family needs to go back with him.Im sure we have been paying for his 6 children for some time now.I an out of sympathy for these people who are stealing our way of life.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuvMyCountry wrote:
How could he get a union job without fake docsuments?His family needs to go back with him.Im sure we have been paying for his 6 children for some time now.I an out of sympathy for these people who are stealing our way of life.


I know-how come these unions are hiring illegals? Do they not realize that these people are illegal? Don't union members realize these illegals are keeping wages low? Now Americans are being bypassed to work in unions in favor of Americans.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with "azwreath" How does an illegal get a fire arm permit? Shocked

Wreath I must tell you i watched Rep. Pearce on c-span this morning and he was fantastic up against the restaurant owner over the laws they are going to start enforcing in AZ. I think it is wonder and a whole lot of pissed off people called in over the illegal problem there Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fortunately, there is NO statute of limitations for illegal entry into the US. So criminal activity or not, they are STILL DEPORTABLE.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Fedup~there's going to be a prayer vigil tonight, to pray for an end to the raids!! Wanna go?? Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


Prayer vigil

Immigrant rights organizations, including Casa Mexiquense of Waukegan, are planning to hold a 24-hour prayer vigil for an end to the raids outside the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service's Application Support Center, 25 S. Green Bay Road, starting today at 7 p.m.

(From same link that Fedup posted above)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SOSADFORUS wrote:
I agree with "azwreath" How does an illegal get a fire arm permit? Shocked

Wreath I must tell you i watched Rep. Pearce on c-span this morning and he was fantastic up against the restaurant owner over the laws they are going to start enforcing in AZ. I think it is wonder and a whole lot of pissed off people called in over the illegal problem there Laughing



Hi SOSAD!!! Not ignoring you, my friend, just had some stuff to get done!!

Glad to hear you saw Russell Pearce this morning.....he's something else again, isn't he? Laughing He's very no nonsense about illegal immigration but his solutions to the problem are very rational and straight-forward. As he's so fond of saying "Close down the rides and the crowd goes home" Laughing Laughing

Oh, everyone is thrilled that Gov. Napolitano signed the employer penalty law. Well, almost everyone is thrilled.....I'm sure I don't have to tell you the everyones who are not so thrilled!!!

The law is badly needed here.....and very much elsewhere in the US.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prayer vigil

Immigrant rights organizations, including Casa Mexiquense of Waukegan, are planning to hold a 24-hour prayer vigil for an end to the raids outside the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service's Application Support Center, 25 S. Green Bay Road, starting today at 7 p.m.

(From same link that Fedup posted above)[/quote]

I will be praying for heavy Thunder Storms in and around Waukegan tonight... Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Wreath he used that on c-span "close down the rides and the will go home" I like it LMAO Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SOSADFORUS wrote:
Yes Wreath he used that on c-span "close down the rides and the will go home" I like it LMAO Laughing




LMAO Laughing Laughing It's true though isn't it? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

azwreath wrote:
SOSADFORUS wrote:
Yes Wreath he used that on c-span "close down the rides and the will go home" I like it LMAO Laughing




LMAO Laughing Laughing It's true though isn't it? Very Happy


Couldn't have thought of a better line myself!! yes I loved it! Wink
Sounds like your doing great, so glad, girlfriend Laughing
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Has anyone noticed that none of the immigrant rights groups from China, France, Iraq, Iran, Ireland, Germany, etc. are joining together. ALL OF THE MMIGRANT RIGHTS GROUPS are Latino. What makes me think its the southern border that's a problem. Shocked Go figure!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlessUSA wrote:
Hey Fedup~there's going to be a prayer vigil tonight, to pray for an end to the raids!! Wanna go?? Shocked Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


Prayer vigil

Immigrant rights organizations, including Casa Mexiquense of Waukegan, are planning to hold a 24-hour prayer vigil for an end to the raids outside the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service's Application Support Center, 25 S. Green Bay Road, starting today at 7 p.m.

(From same link that Fedup posted above)


Someone reported on our local radio tonight that they drove by the vigil and saw only 15 to 20 people. I believe they said some media was there, so I'll report later the spin if it's covered.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

15-20? They really mean business.


Do you think they are getting the message and getting nervous?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was driving home today and saw something interesting...A mini-van had written in large letters on the windows "The American Dream is on 'ICE'. Israel Rojol is a innocent father of five." Then listed three positive things about him.

Would love to get a picture of this. Israel is the person mentioned in the article on top...
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fedupinwaukegan wrote:
I was driving home today and saw something interesting...A mini-van had written in large letters on the windows "The American Dream is on 'ICE'. Israel Rojol is a innocent father of five." Then listed three positive things about him.



3 positive things about Israel Rojo

1. He is on his way to Mexico
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1. He is on his way to Mexico
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2. HIS FUTURE CRIMES WILL BE COMMITTED IN MEXICO NOT USA.

3. WE WONT HAVE TO PAY TO INCARCERATE HIM FOR HIS FUTURE CRIMES.
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1. He is on his way to Mexico
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#2. SEE NUMBER 1
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Immigrant rights organizations, including Casa Mexiquense of Waukegan, are planning to hold a 24-hour prayer vigil for an end to the raids outside the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service's Application Support Center, 25 S. Green Bay Road, starting today at 7 p.m.


Oh yeah?? Well, the American citizen rights group, Kick-o the scum-o out of the country-o de America will be holding a 24 hour celebration in honor of these crooks deportation.
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