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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This story has already been moved off of Google News Results.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Union driver's license created!!!! (ALIPA Reply with quote

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North American Union driver's license created
Logo intended to standardize documentation across continent

Posted: September 6, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com


New security logo on the reverse of North Carolina's driver's licenses


Security and Prosperity Partnership logo

New security logo on the reverse of North Carolina's driver's licenses

The first "North American Union" driver's license, complete with a hologram of the North American continent on the reverse, has been created in the state of North Carolina.

"The North Carolina driver's license is 'North American Union' ready," charges William Gheen, who serves as president of Americans for Legal Immigration.

Gheen provided WND with a photo of an actual North Carolina license which clearly shows the hologram of the North American continent embedded on the reverse.

"The hologram looks exactly [like] the map of North America that is used as the background for the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America logo on the SPP website," Gheen told WND. "I object to the loss of sovereignty that is proceeding under the agreements being made by these unelected government bureaucrats who think we should be North American instead of the United States of America."


Security and Prosperity Partnership logo

"To protest, I don't plan on applying for a North Carolina driver's license," Gheen told WND, "even though I am a resident of the state. I don't see how a Division of Motor Vehicles authorized in a Department of Transportation of a state of the United States can force me to have a license place that is designed with a North American Union insignia printed on the backside."

"My decision not to get a North Carolina driver's license could have very difficult consequences for me," Gheen told WND. "Without a valid driver's license, I may not be able to drive a car, fly on an airplane, or enter a government building."

Gheen told WND he does not have a U.S. passport.


In 2005, WND reported North Carolina was the state where illegal immigrants go to get a driver's license, with busloads of aliens traveling south on I-95 to get an easy ID.

The Tar Heel State's requirements to obtain a license are weaker than those of many surrounding states.

Marge Howell, spokeswoman for the North Carolina DMV, affirmed to WND the state was embedding a hologram of North America on the back of its new driver's licenses.

"It's a security element that eventually will be on the back of every driver's license in North America," Howell told WND.

Howell explained the hologram of the North American continent was the creation of the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators, a tax-exempt, nonprofit organization that, according to the group's website, "develops model programs in motor vehicle administration, law enforcement and highway safety."

Founded in 1933, AAMVA represents state and provincial officials in the United States and Canada who administer and enforce motor vehicle laws. The government of Mexico is also a member, though the individual Mexican states have yet to join.

According to the group's website, AAMVA's programs are designed "to encourage uniformity and reciprocity among the states and provinces."

"The goal of the North American hologram," Howell explained, "is to get one common element that law enforcement throughout the continent can look at on all driver's licenses and tell that the driver's license is an official document."

Jason King, spokesman for AAMVA, affirmed the North American hologram was created by AAMVA's Uniform Identification Subcommittee, a working group of AAMVA members.

He explained the goal is to create a continental security device that could be used by state and provincial motor vehicles agencies throughout North America, including the United States, Canada and Mexico.

King referenced a document on the AAMVA website that describes guidelines for using the North America continent hologram as an Optical Variable Device (OVD) that AAMVA has now licensed with private manufacturers to produce.

AAMVA supplies member motor vehicle agencies with a quantity of North American continent hologram OVD foils to use on their driver's licenses and ID cards as needed.

As the guidelines document on the AAMVA explains, each North American continental hologram OVD foil is embedded with a unique set of control numbers that permit law enforcement electronic scanners to identify the exact jurisdiction and precise individual authorized to hold a driver's license or ID card with that particular OVD foil embedded.

"AAMVA understands its unique positioning and the continuing role identification security will play in helping the general public realize a safer North America," King explained to WND in an e-mail. "The association believes ID security will help increase national security, increase highway safety, reduce fraud and system abuse, increase efficiency and effectiveness, and achieve uniformity of processes and practices."

Jim Palmer, press director for ALIPAC, told WND that ALIPAC first became aware of the hologram when Missouri State Rep. Jim Guest held a seminar in North Carolina to protest the Real ID law.

"The surprise came at a meeting on the Real ID that Palmer held in Raleigh, North Carolina, on Saturday, July 28," Palmer told WND.

"When Rep. Guest asked participants to take out their driver's license and see what was on it," Palmer explained, "one gentleman was a state employee and on his license there was this hologram with the North American continent on the back. We were all surprised to see that on a North Carolina driver's license. Right there, that stopped the show."

Guest has formed a coalition called Legislators Against Real ID Act, or LARI.

"I was astonished when I saw that North American hologram on the North Carolina driver's license," Guest told WND. "I thought to myself that the state DMV has already included this North American symbol on the back of the driver's license without telling the people of North Carolina they were going to do this."

"I thought right then that this was going to be the prototype for the driver's license of the North American Union," Guest told WND.

"When we called the North Carolina DMV, they hedged at first," Guest said, "but finally they admitted that, yes, there was a North American continent hologram on the back of the license."

"This is part of a plan by bureaucrats and trade groups that act like bureaucrats to little by little transform us into a North American Union without any vote being taken and without explaining to the U.S. public what they are doing," Guest argued.

King explained AAMVA’s Uniform Identification Subcommittee created a number of task forces, including the Card Design Specification that developed the North America continent hologram OVD.

"The Task Group surveyed and met with many stakeholders during the development effort," King wrote to WND. "The Task Force gathered information from government and non-government users of the driver's License/ID card to determine their uses for the DL/ID card and how they believe the card should function. In addition, the Task Group surveyed and met with industry experts in the area of card production and security to gather their advice, especially about the physical security of the card."

King told WND the Task Group work was repeatedly reviewed by the UID Subcommittee as a whole, with final approval coming from the AAMVA Board.

In 2006, WND reported Pastor Rios Sanchez, 55, an illegal alien, was accused of killing three people, including two North Carolina State University students and a 26-year-old, while driving drunk.

"People who think the Real ID was created to keep illegal aliens from getting driver's licenses and IDs should come to North Carolina," Gheen told WND. "What the North Carolina DMV is doing is creating the basis for a continental driver's license."

"What difference does it make to North Carolina if an illegal alien gets a driver's license?" Gheen asked. "The photo on the license creates a close face scan that can be identified by face recognition technology, whether the DMV admits it or not."

"Illegal aliens who get driver's licenses are just being scanned in advance," Gheen concluded.

"Illegal aliens who get driver's licenses or IDs in North Carolina are just being prepared for their admission into the North America Union driver pool that North Carolina is at the vanguard of creating," Gheen said. "That is the truth, whether the North Carolina DMV or the AAMVA want to admit it or not."

King told WND North Carolina is the first AAMVA member jurisdiction to use the North America continent hologram on a driver's license or ID card.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57502


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Kudos to W for this story, the NC DMV wouldn't admit to this before.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The word is out there.
It's on the front pg of http://www.idexer.com/ which refers us to:
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/license_north_american/2007/09/06/30512.html
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"North American hologram" on North Carolina drivers licenses
http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/007020.html

The beginning of "North American Union driver's license created/Logo intended to standardize documentation across continent" (link) certainly seems a bit tinfoilish. A map of North America appears on the back of the new type of North Carolina driver's licenses and the map looks somewhat like the map to be found on spp.gov. OK, so? After all, wouldn't concerns about things like that be in line with supposed masonic symbols on the U.S. dollar? Then:

Marge Howell, spokeswoman for the North Carolina DMV, affirmed to WND the state was embedding a hologram of North America on the back of its new driver's licenses.

"It's a security element that eventually will be on the back of every driver's license in North America," Howell told WND.

Howell explained the hologram of the continent was the creation of the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators, a tax-exempt, nonprofit organization that, according to the group's website [aamva.org], "develops model programs in motor vehicle administration, law enforcement and highway safety."

Founded in 1933, AAMVA represents state and provincial officials in the United States and Canada who administer and enforce motor vehicle laws. The government of Mexico is also a member, though the individual Mexican states have yet to join.

..."The goal of the North American hologram," Howell explained, "is to get one common element that law enforcement throughout the continent can look at on all driver's licenses and tell that the driver's license is an official document."


It gets even worse at the link.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:19 am    Post subject: The real ID please read Reply with quote

Why do we need another I.D.? Make copies & past on, thanks.
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UPDATE: 2007 count down to the new “Federal ID” called “The Real ID” for all USA Citizens.
This was supposed to go into effect May 2008, but Homeland Security www.dhs.gov is now giving States until the end of Dec 31 2009 to comply. This law “The Real ID Act” was passed May 11, 2005 signed by President Bush & in the news everyday since. Please go to www.dhs.gov type in search section: REAL ID Proposed Guidelines: Questions & Answers. Search the internet on: Micro chips, Body Chips, Animal chips and Smart Card & European Union; & the Real ID. If every state implements the “Real I.D” everyone will need this I.D. in the U.S.A. Website for United Nations: WWW.UN.ORG World Bank wed site WWW.WORLDBANK.ORG
No legal documents, no I.D. Without this Federal I.D. you will not be allowed on any plane, or go into any Federal building even Federal parks. You will not be allowed on Amtrak or on Greyhound, or hold a job, or hold or open a bank account. Essentially anything the Federal Government has control over. See Guidelines at: www.dhs.gov
**Also New Passport Law, January 2007: get a Passport; you will need it when flying to & from Mexico, Canada, the Caribbean’s, now.
Some states are saying “No” to this Real I.D. please go to www.NonationalID.com then scroll down and click on Headline News for up-to-date information from newspapers, tech sites etc. If this card fails, what’s next? The mandatory chipping or tattooing of people ordered by the Government? Go to website: www.halLindsey.org see video 01/05/07. But is this the prelude to the Mark of the Beast? Or the Mark!
Revelation 13:16-18. Call your State Government. Say No to “The Real ID!”
Prelude: anything serving as the introduction to a principal event, action, performance, etc.; preliminary part; preface; opening. Dictionary on line: www.m-w.com Copyright 2007
Employees of the Department of Motor Vehicles in some States will determine if you are a U.S.A Citizen or not, according to your original documents. You must have all original documents, Social Security card, Birth certificate, and proof of residence, etc. No Copies! Go to www.dhs.gov. On this “Real I.D.” it will tell any police officer or job or Government official if you are a U.S. citizen or not. Please read the Bible: Revelation 13:16-18. I Corinthians 15:51-52. You must be born again! John 3:7 & John 3:16. Please go to: www.spp.gov & go to the “Myth vs. facts” section.
A one world Government is coming! Soon USA will be call “The North American Union” and model after the EU, “European Union” An Immigration Bill? Is this a smoke screen?
Web sites: Magazine and radio show: listen to current and past radio shows and read the news on: www.endtime.com link over to www.NonationalID.com ACLU: www.aclu.org link over to www.realnightmare.org** News: www.npr.org Department of Homeland Security: www.dhs.gov Against “The Real ID”, Microchips & RFID: www.spychips.com www.unrealID.com Christian T.V. shows & sites, Books and Movies: *www.leftbehind.com www.crosswalk.com www.halLindsey.org www.chick.com www.jvim.com www.perrystone.org www.christiancinema.com www.jhm.org www.newbirth.org www.creflodollarministries.org www.wordinaction.info www.kcm.org www.christianbook.com Info: www.informationweek.com Some Companies that produced microchips & RFID: www.compexinc.com www.verichipcorp.com www.Homeagain.com www.adsx.com www.kevinwarwick.com . Movie director Arron Russo’s documentary, get: www.freedomtofascism.com & listen to his interview on July 12, 2007 at www.endtime.com and on: www.prisonplanet.com Alex Jones: www.infowars.com
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The negative attention to this story shows again that the people in DC who control the media are extremely upset over this article and are doing all they can to do damage control. Here is another one:


New Licenses Incite Fears of North American Union

Thursday, September 6, 2007 7:41 PM

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Pro-border security advocates are warning that the new North Carolina driver's license is a dangerous first step toward a "North American Union" driving permit.

The Tar Heel State recently introduced a license that includes a hologram on its reverse side.

The problem: Critics object that the hologram portrays the entire North American continent, not just the United States. Moreover, they say it looks just like the map of North American used as the logo on the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America Web site (www.spp.gov).

The SPP supports enhanced regulatory cooperation and the promotion of cross-border trade among the United States, Mexico, and Canada.

Those who object to the North American Union and related projects like the NAFTA Super Highway say it will compromise American sovereignty, exacerbate border-security concerns, and ultimately lead to economic hardships for U.S. citizens.

Groups opposed to illegal immigration worry that a North American driver's license could ultimately enable a citizen of Mexico, Canada, or the United States to travel freely anywhere on the Continent.

William Gheen, who heads the Raleigh, N.C.-based Americans for Legal Immigration political action committee, says the new license is “‘North American Union' ready.”

Gheen says he’ll protest the new license by refusing to apply for a license, even though it will prevent him from driving a car and make it difficult to travel on a commercial airline.

The hologram is a foil-based security patch that carries design features both visible and invisible to the human eye, including a variety of codes, numbers, and 3-D and fluorescent images. North Carolina DMV officials say the new licenses will eventually be used all over North America, and will take several years to roll out.

North Carolina Division of Motor Vehicles spokeswoman Marge Howell says the new licenses will increase security, protect against document fraud, and aid law enforcement officials in identifying crime suspects.

The American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators that designed the hologram represents state and provincial officials in the United States and Canada who administer and enforce motor vehicle laws. The government of Mexico is also a member, though individual Mexican states have yet to join.

"The goal is of the North American hologram is to get one common element that law enforcement throughout the continent can look at on all driver's licenses and tell that the driver's license is an official document," Howell says.

Because the hologram is almost impossible to duplicate, Howell says it will be much more difficult for illegal immigrants to get a bogus license.

But the new licenses have prompted an online opposition effort by Missouri state Rep. Jim Guest also is opposed.

"I was astonished when I saw that North American hologram on the North Carolina driver's license," Guest said, according to . "I thought right then that this was going to be the prototype for the driver's license of the North American Union.”

The driver’s license flap comes in the midst of a joint U.S.-Mexico pilot program that allows Mexican truckers to make long-haul trips into the United States. Currently, trucks from Mexico are allowed to venture only within the 20- to 25-mile commercial zone in place along the U.S. border.

Under the year-long experiment, though, a select group of about 100 Mexican trucking companies will be allowed to make deliveries beyond the 20- to 25-mile commercial zone.

To participate, Mexican drivers must have a commercial driver's license, must pass a criminal check, show proof that they are medically fit, comply with U.S. hours-of-service rules, and be able to answer questions in English and understand directions from inspectors.

© 2007 NewsMax. All rights reserved.

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/license_north_american/2007/09/06/30512.html
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found this over on the jbs.org a link to something interesting

http://www.nauolc.org/ look at the name on their logo and then look at the picture of their sign.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jp_48504 wrote:
Found this over on the jbs.org a link to something interesting

http://www.nauolc.org/ look at the name on their logo and then look at the picture of their sign.


North American Union Sisters???
Hadn't heard of that one.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jean wrote:
jp_48504 wrote:
Found this over on the jbs.org a link to something interesting

http://www.nauolc.org/ look at the name on their logo and then look at the picture of their sign.


North American Union Sisters???
Hadn't heard of that one.


Surprised me too.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome DrivingisCommerce.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome BobbieMac1 Thanks for the links! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Bobbimac1!

I look forward to checking out the links you provided this weekend. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: more about bogus license Reply with quote

Hi People,
I chose the Wright Brothers logo for my license, not realizing it would be a holograph. To the lower left of my picture is a microprinted paragraph about the Wright Brothers. I needed a high-powered mag. glass just to read it.

Behind the NC in the corners of the wicked stamp, I mean, holograph on back, the alphabet is in microprint.

If you examine the arrows upper right and lower left of the auto image in the wicked stamp, I mean, holograph, there are raised areas that approximate a rectangle in shape. Could any RFID chip or other thing reside there? My wife also noticed a series of raised bars running diagonally from lower left toward the center of the stamp.

My new "Mark of the Beast" number on the wicked stamp has 911 in it.

How are we going to defeat this in short order? Do we need a petition drive to introduce legislation or force a referendum to have the licenses reissued? Give me your thoughts.
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How are we going to defeat this in short order? Do we need a petition drive to introduce legislation or force a referendum to have the licenses reissued? Give me your thoughts.


Welcome Sage!

I don't know what the answer is. I have requested an investigation and full disclosure to all North Carolinians regarding the new NCDL. I also asked for, at the very least, an alternative for those of us who refuse this new license on the basis of our religious beliefs. Many other religions have been granted 'special considerations' due to claims that such-and-such would cause undue hardship. It would certainly cause many Christians and undue hardship to give up our driving privilige because our evil leaders try and force us to accept something we do not believe is acceptable in our religion.
I'm not sure that enough NC drivers are yet aware of WHAT this new NCDL represents. It's up to folks like us to get the word out!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject: Re: more about bogus license Reply with quote

Sage wrote:
Hi People,
I chose the Wright Brothers logo for my license, not realizing it would be a holograph. To the lower left of my picture is a microprinted paragraph about the Wright Brothers. I needed a high-powered mag. glass just to read it.

Behind the NC in the corners of the wicked stamp, I mean, holograph on back, the alphabet is in microprint.

If you examine the arrows upper right and lower left of the auto image in the wicked stamp, I mean, holograph, there are raised areas that approximate a rectangle in shape. Could any RFID chip or other thing reside there? My wife also noticed a series of raised bars running diagonally from lower left toward the center of the stamp.

My new "Mark of the Beast" number on the wicked stamp has 911 in it.

How are we going to defeat this in short order? Do we need a petition drive to introduce legislation or force a referendum to have the licenses reissued? Give me your thoughts.

The microprinting is a security feature (text that small would be difficult to reproduce).
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone actually know what information will be on these emblems / holograms? I heard on a talk show that the police can scan them when everything is set up. But what will it tell them? Could there be some kind of tracking device like in our cell phones in them? Just curious. I will be nuking mine today!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why start in North Carolina with these cards? NC is known for giving
illegal aliens drivers' licenses.
Sounds like somebody had a reason for picking NC!
And I thought that the purpose of the card was to identify without a doubt who was a citizen or legal to be in the country!
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And I thought that the purpose of the card was to identify without a doubt who was a citizen or legal to be in the country![/quote]

They lied about that, to achieve an ultimate objective. They (The Establishment insiders) also said that the passage of NAFTA, would reduce illegal immigration from Mexico dramatically, because it would transform Mexico's economy, and create a vibrant middle class there.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent in for a replacement DL and got one with the logo. Took a punch and a hammer to the logo. There won't be anything working in my logo! Should I run it through the microwave too? Very Happy

Mine had the number A1112883 above the logo.
Guess I am going to have to get a new bicycle. I am definitely not going to renew my license.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:44 am    Post subject: Personal Identification — AAMVA International Specificatio Reply with quote

http://www.aamva.org/NR/rdonlyres/66260AD6-64B9-45E9-A253-B8AA32241BE0/0/2005DLIDCardSpecV2FINAL.pdf
Need to read the above.




http://www.graphicsecurity.com/images...

CT and OK Driver Licenses are using this technology.

Here is how I found it.

The image “http://www.aamva.org/banmanpro/ads/Home/GraphicSecuritySystems_Banner1.gif”
http://www.graphicsecurity.com/ (link to above logo) - guess I can't get logo on here

I also found this:
American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators

excerpts:

http://www.aamva.org/KnowledgeCenter/...

ANSI / ISO

AAMVA is a standards development organization (SDO) accredited by the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) in the use of the canvass method. As an SDO, AAMVA currently maintains the ANSI D20 standard in this way. ANSI D20 is the Data Dictionary for Traffic Record Systems. Please refer to the ANSI D20 page for updates to this standard.

AAMVA is also an active participant in another development group, the InterNational Committee for Information Technology Standards (INCITS). Within INCITS, AAMVA is an active participant in the working group designated ANSI JTC1 / INCITS B10.8. This working group is designated as the ANSI Technical Advisory Group to an ISO effort to standardize international driver license documents.

AAMVA is an active participant in the development of an International Organization for Standardization (ISO) standard for international driver license documents. AAMVA is advancing the interests of U.S. jurisdictions in the standards development process. The ISO working group responsible for this standard is designated ISO JTC1 / SC17 / WG10. Any questions regarding AAMVA's participation with ISO, please contact, Mike Calvin, Deputy CEO.
NASPO

The North American Security Products Organization is another of AAMVA's partners in providing security documentation. As with AAMVA, NASPO is also an accredited standards organization sanctioned by ANSI. NASPO is responsible for publishing the Security Risk Management Requirements Definition Document. The standard identifies and defines risks that a security product producer must manage and the degree to which those risks must be managed to be certified by NASPO.

Defining Specifications

A specification is a standard but without the approval of the American National Standards Institute. AAMVA has produced numerous specifications over the past several years. One specification that has the most notoriety is the AAMVA DL/ID specification. First publish it 2000, the AAMVA DL/ID specification has gone through two revisions. Once in 2003, and the most recent revision in 2005. AAMVA is also in the works in producing a new bar code specification for motor vehicle documents such as titles, registrations, motor carrier cab cards and safety inspection documents. The new specification is a collection of data elements found within a 2D bar code placed on these motor vehicle documents. This document is set to published by the Fall of 2005.
AAMVA DL/ID Guidance

The newly released 2005 AAMVA Personal Identification - AAMVA International Specification - DL/ID Card Design, Version 2.0, provides a uniform means to identify issuers and holders of driver license cards throughout North America.

Defining Biometrics

Biometric methods of identification work by measuring unique human characteristics such as facial recognition or finger printing as well as behavioral characteristics as a way to confirm identity. Biometrics has helped played a part in preventing identity theft over the past few years. In November 2001, The Executive Board of INCITS established the Technical Committee M1. The purpose of M1 is to ensure a high priority, focused, and comprehensive approach in the United States for the rapid development and approval of formal national and international generic biometric standards.
Biometrics Documentation

Phase I: Technical Capability of Biometric Systems to Perform 1:300m Identification Final Report (International Biometric Group)

Structured Decision-Making Roadmap for the Evaluation of Biometric Technologies in a Driver License Environment (Fischer Consulting, Inc.)

Biometric Technology Information Needs (Fischer Consulting, Inc.)

Contact: Tom Wolfsohn, Chief Policy Officer, (703) 522-4200.[img][/img][img][/img]
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:10 am    Post subject: how was NC-DMV talked into being vanguard of NAU? Reply with quote

"The goal of the North American hologram," Howell explained, "is to get one common element that law enforcement throughout the continent can look at on all driver's licenses and tell that the driver's license is an official document."

Um, wouldn't the outline of just the USA be what U.S. law enforcement would need if they wanted an "official" element common to all the states in the USA? Howell's comment sounds as though the NC-DMV has given official sanction to the NAU. Michael Medved has been ranting that only paranoid nutjobs think that the U.S. is planning to join a North American Union. I would love to hear him have a conversation with Ms. Howell.

Right now, illegal aliens are hardly even subject to U.S. law enforcement, but the NC-DMV is happily preparing for U.S. citizens to be subject to Mexican law enforcement? How were they convinced to become pod people?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just called my grand daughter as she just got her license in July and she said it was not on it, but I am going to send this to all state legislatures and governor Otter!!

But then remember Idaho is the first state to send a letter to congress and the president and told them Idaho would not take part in the Real ID act. his letter is posted in the "state actions" on alipac under the Idaho thread!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we do not make an issue out of this, they will force the states who are refusing it back in. We need more states fighting against this. If you are in NC, call your state reps and your members of congress and tell them no Real ID Compliance.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO CONTACT THEIR STATE REPRESENTIVES AND GOVERNORS AND DEMANDSOMETHING BE DONE ABOUT THIS AND MAKE SURE YOUR STATE IS NOT TAKING PART IN IT.

this is one of the most important issue's of the century for this country it will be the destruction of our constitution and our sovereignty DO NOT DOUBT IT FOR ONE SECOND!!!

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